Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PH-1 (rapper)

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The result was keep. Spartaz ^Humbug! 07:00, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

PH-1 (rapper)

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Very content-poor article on a rapper. I can't quite assess this one - is the reported charting sufficient to claim notability? -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 07:44, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Passes WP:NMG point 2. Abdotorg (talk) 12:19, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Failing this may I request that the article be drafted so I can work on it until the individual passes notability. Abdotorg (talk) 18:44, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note that "may be notable" is not the same as "is notable", that meeting any of these criteria does not mean that an article must be kept. As you have started many articles on artists on Korean charts, perhaps you should consider adding more sources to show that these subjects meet WP:GNG. A chart entry or two, particularly in low positions, should not be considered to be sufficient. Note also that these sources suggest he may actually be an American from New York - [1][2], the biographical details given are therefore doubtful as they are poorly sourced, which is unacceptable for a biographical article per WP:BLPSOURCES. Hzh (talk) 15:51, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 08:59, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of South Korea-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 08:59, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 13:49, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 01:50, 17 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete fails GNG and at least some of the bio details are evidently incorrect. He may be American not South Korean. Legacypac (talk) 05:49, 17 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I have added 2 major newspaper citations and a profile image. One article says the artist is currently residing in Long Island, but he is definitely South Korean, but maybe we're lacking a citation for the birthplace in Seoul. The Korea Herald article references a new EP release in January and I have asked page creator Abdotorg if they have time to update that information as I am traveling. I will continue to look for citations and add bio. information, as time allows me.--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 05:58, 19 March 2018 (UTC) I have added Arirang radio interview for citation of Korean birth and move to U.S. at age 12 or 13.--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 06:50, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should be noted that place of birth does not equate nationality, for example Bob Hope was born in England but he is generally considered American. If he has acquired American citizenship and considered himself American, then he should be described as Korean American. There is no source for his citizenship given, and I'm not sure what source it is that you gave, but it could be just my browser as something pops up but there is no sound when I clicked on AOD (therefore a short transcript could be useful). Hzh (talk) 13:35, 21 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Hzh for persisting on accuracy of nationality. I have now added the bio from his recent appearance at SXSW which states he is Korean American. About Arirang Radio (and ArirangTV), they are popular English language sources for Korean news and culture. I'm sorry your browser could not open the Arirang interview citation with him...another URL link for the transcript I had found was deadlinked. I will continue looking for a transcript to add. I use the Chrome browser and it opened immediately for me.--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 17:47, 22 March 2018 (UTC) Also, Re categories listing him as a Korean rapper, etc. - due to his work being done in South Korea; his rap combining Korean and English languages, and the possiblity that he has dual citizenship where he could be labeled American or Korean - I did not delete those categories. Of course, a new category for Korean-American male rappers could be added.--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 18:04, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep has reliable source coverage such as the Korean Herald and has charted as per criteria 2 of WP:NMUSIC Atlantic306 (talk) 15:59, 21 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.