Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Patapaa

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. I agree with the developing consensus that this passes per Criteria 8 of WP:NMUSIC. Withdrawing. (non-admin closure) nearlyevil 665 05:54, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Patapaa[edit]

[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Non-notable musician, references do not constitute reliable secondary sources and the award nomination is for a non-significant music award. Nearlyevil665 (talk) 10:21, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ghana-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete does not meet our inclusion criteria for musicians.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:31, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep passes criteria 8 of WP:NMUSIC as the nomination was for Ghana's major music awards The Vodafone Ghana Music Awards which are nationally broadcast as confopirmed by reliable sources, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 00:20, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: WP:NMUSIC reads: "Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award." Every national music award isn't a pass. nearlyevil 665 06:19, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Can the Ghana Music Awards be considered a "major music award"? Where does it fit within the scope of "national" awards in Ghana?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 02:24, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Considering that WP:NMUSIC gives "Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award." as an example of a major music award I would very much doubt that a national Ghana music award be even remotely considered as such. nearlyevil 665 13:09, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know what the highest national music awards are in Ghana? 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 13:32, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wouldn't that be irrelevant? Criteria 8 of WP:NMUSIC says "major music award... such as Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis", not "major national music award...". The Vodafone Ghana Music Awards is nowhere near the level of the Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis. If my interpretation is wrong I'm more than willing to withdraw the nomination. nearlyevil 665 14:56, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Vodafone Ghana Music Awards is the highest level of music awards in Ghana, @Nearlyevil665: just like you are comparing to awards in the US, VGMA is a major award in Ghana too. If geographical location would be irrelevant then that would mean articles on these basis are useless in other or smaller countries. →Enock4seth ^(talk) 15:25, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Thank you for your input. Could I inquire into the source that would demonstrate said awards are the highest level of music awards in Ghana? nearlyevil 665 15:45, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Nearlyevil665: what specifically do you want to know? Vodafone Ghana Music Awards should help you. Thanks. →Enock4seth ^(talk) 22:53, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The main music awards of a country usually qualify as a major award for WP:NMUSIC. It obviously isn't limited to just a few mainly US awards as that would be entrenched systemic bias, Atlantic306 (talk) 23:51, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.