Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ANTHE

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Aakash Institute. Black Kite (t) (c) 18:55, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ANTHE

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Disputed PROD. Nominating for deletion because the article does not appear notable enough for its own article. Searching online provided nothing, and the sources that are currently in the article are of questionable reliability, being blogs and other WP:SPS. Sudo Ghost 05:24, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ANTHE Reference Added

I have added another reference to clarify the ANTHE article reliability and notability issue which was published on 03-October-2011 at Education Times (a weekly supplement of Times of India newspaper) of Delhi-Edition.

One more reference has added for the same which is published today in Hindustan Times front page.

Please review these added references and do the needful to resolve the issue with this article.

I will be very thankful to Wikipedia editors and administrators. Thanks. (Satya563 (talk) 05:29, 11 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:37, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:37, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The "reference" you added is an ad in a newspaper. This is not a reliable source. - Sudo Ghost 05:31, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

To inform the students about test schedules and features, almost every top level institute/ college/ university go for print media.

The reference websites which I added are already part of the wikipedia from many years and well known worldwide. The text published on the same is reliable but the image is not.

I am not able to understand the difference. It is only a different way to inform the same prospects/ group of people in a better way. (Satya563 (talk) 06:01, 11 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Because anyone can pay to have an advertisement placed in a newspaper. This does not make it a reliable source simply because the advertisement is in a well-known newspaper. If the newspaper were to write an article about ANTHE, that would be different than someone paying to have an advertisement placed in the newspaper. - Sudo Ghost 06:05, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Editors, I have added 2 more references of ANTHE after deep research on web published on www.earlytimes.in (28-Nov-2010) and www.iitportal.com (14-Dec-2010). Thanks.(Satya563 (talk) 11:45, 11 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Delete fails WP:GNG, which requires WP:RS. Stuartyeates (talk) 03:03, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

one more reference is added published on statetimes.in (29-11-2010) in J&K State of India. I am not able to understand that how much more references needed for the same and why these resources are not notable. Please clarify it. I am really confused here now.Satya563 (talk) 06:00, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:05, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

One more citation [1] added as per WP:RS for ANTHE which was published at IndiaSummary.com (13-Dec-2010).(Satya563 (talk) 08:05, 17 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]
Weak Keep - Per the sources: [2], [3], [4]. Northamerica1000^(talk) 05:50, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Renaming the article to Aakash National Talent Hunt Exam would be an improvement. Northamerica1000^(talk) 05:53, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think merging it with Aakash Institute would be more of an improvement, as both are little more than stubs and ANTHE is only notable in the context of the Aakash Institute, if at all. - Sudo Ghost 05:59, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - ANTHE is the year based scholarship program started in 2010, so searching ANTHE 2010 or ANTHE 2011 produces more accurate results than ANTHE. Renaming the ANTHE article to Aakash National Talent Hunt Exam would be an improvement as well as acceptable too as it produces even more better notable web presence. (Satya563 (talk) 06:50, 18 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Wikipedia is not about having an even more better notable web presence, and is not intended to be used as advertisement. - Sudo Ghost 07:03, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Every editor knows that Wikipedia is not intended to be used as advertisement but a notable and reliable article definitely takes place on Wikipedia. The point raised is already considered and related reference links are deleted. (Satya563 (talk) 08:06, 18 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Keep References in the article already and what has been found during this AFD, convince me of its notability. Dream Focus 17:41, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This article provides sufficiant references, and is broken various organized sections, It may require a complete rewrite, but it has enough sources to back it up, no reason to delete. – Phoenix B 1of3 (talk) 17:54, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Aakash Institute, together they have enough sources to be notable, but I'm not clear that ANTHE does by itself. Stuartyeates (talk) 20:50, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Either keeping the ANTHE article or Renaming it to Aakash National Talent Hunt Exam looks much feasible and reasonable step.(Satya563 (talk) 04:56, 20 October 2011 (UTC))— Satya563 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Wrong attitude totally. By this way, whenever a new user will start contributing to Wikipedia then you can raise finger. And tell me how a user can start contributing or editing if you raise question like this. Please do not try to create monopoly. And a user is not bound to edit on Wikipedia on daily basis as every editor is independent to edit or contribute only when he feels free to do so. I am not a paid employee and so this type of obligation is not fare at all. Please take back your applied SPA-TAG.(Satya563 (talk) 11:11, 21 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Neither article has enough content to justify separate articles, given that the article subjects are so similar and both are stubs. No reference mentions this article's subject without also mentioning the other, as this article is dependent on the other. - Sudo Ghost 12:55, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merge - into the article on the institute. Yaksar (let's chat) 06:02, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Need feasible explanation in support.(Satya563 (talk) 06:46, 20 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Two more citations [5][6] added in support to keep the ANTHE article.(Satya563 (talk) 11:15, 20 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Neither of which are reliable sources. - Sudo Ghost 12:51, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Why not reliable? Feasible reason required here. Webdunia.com, MywebDunia.com and 24Dunia.com are MSN based Hindi News portals and the ANTHE article published by both MyWebDunia.com and 24Dunia.com 0n 13-Dec-2010 and everyone can verify it as it was cached by Google too. All the 3 websites are registered by single person and Webdunia.com & In.com are already accepted in Wikipedia article.(Satya563 (talk) 13:33, 20 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]

The Webdunia one is an advertisement, not an article. The in.com one is a link to a blog, which is a WP:SPS, not a reliable source. - Sudo Ghost 14:25, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In.com itself is not a blog, but an online venture from Web18, a Network 18 group company. That is why the published news used as a reference source.(Satya563 (talk) 06:36, 21 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Dear Editors, I request suggestions on few things.

An article Dated: 14-Dec-2010 [7] was posted on Zimbio.com, an USA based online magazine publisher company. And this article was posted by "aatif" who has been a member since 08-Oct-2010 when ANTHE was not in the picture and posted approx. 1750 articles till date.

May be it is not a reliable source but how can we deny its notability while there are lots of articles available on Wikipedia without having any reference links.

For supporting ANTHE notability and reliability, there has already been supplied many reference links. I am not able to understand why this article is still struggling to get approval.

Editors’ participation in this discussion and suggestion are most welcomed. Thanks.(Satya563 (talk) 08:01, 21 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]

I would invite you to link to any articles you may be aware of without sources, I shall tag them immediately. Stuartyeates (talk) 09:04, 21 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Satya is one of that type of article which is not having any reference but it is approved and listed for more than 5-6 years. See here we are discussing on ANTHE. So, please do not try to divert discussion purpose.(Satya563 (talk) 09:50, 21 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Satya and Sat (Sanskrit) are both tagged for WP:NOTABILITY. This makes them eminent candidates for nomination for deletion, by any editor willing to do WP:BEFORE. They are in no way exemplar wikipedia pages, just less bad. Stuartyeates (talk) 18:10, 21 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Very strange! None of the editors nominate this eminent candidate for AFD at once from the beginning. I know one thing which is fully Satya that when a person wants to oppose any thing then he can and that particular person wants to support the same thing then he can do too in a much better way. What he takes first step about that thing is most important and other things are irrelevant. Rest is alright. Thanks.(Satya563 (talk) 05:00, 22 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Due to following references: Times of India(TOI) [8], earlyTimes [9], AllVoices [10] and stateTimes [11], as per my opinion we should Keep this article. And if still not satisfied then at least we should wait until both ANTHE Stage-I and Stage-II Exam this year i.e. end of Dec-2011. Then we can decide about notability, verifiability and reliability in a much better way because if ANTHE is a notable exam then definitely its notability should increase year-by-year.(Satya563 (talk) 07:33, 22 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]
Delete We have very rarely kept an article for a cramming program. And it isn't even that! It's a proprietary promotional device to offer a competition to prepare students for taking an exam to win a scholarship to pay their tuition at a coaching academy. At the very most, merge into [[Aakash Institute] DGG ( talk ) 07:09, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I am not agreed with the fact which produced regarding ANTHE. In fact, it helps those hundreds of poor but intelligent student who can’t afford the preparation cost of national level competitive exams like IITJEE, AIPMT, AIEEE and AIIMS of India. By this way, ANTHE helps to improve life standard of common people who has intellectual ability but not able to compete in terms of money and fulfills its social responsibility too. (Satya563 (talk) 08:42, 24 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Delete per DGG above. The article reads like a brochure and has no encyclopedic value that couldn't be duplicated with a few sentences on the Aakash Institute article. Trusilver 13:11, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or at most selectively merge to Aakash Institute per DGG. Reads like an advertisement. Sandstein 18:29, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.