Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Archery at the 2011 Southeast Asian Games

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. The waterpolo precedent notwithstanding, the result of the discussion clearly points the opposite way. Perhaps it was the weather, perhaps the motion of the constellations. Drmies (talk) 23:03, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Archery at the 2011 Southeast Asian Games[edit]

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Group nominations of all individual sport articles linked in Template:EventsAt2011SoutheastAsianGames. This grouped AfD was preceeded by an individual AfD for Water Polo, the result of which was a consensus to delete. Per that consensus, which I believe applies equally to the other event articles for the 2011 Southeast Asian Games. In general, problems are no reliable, independent sources that demonstrate WP:GNG or WP:NSPORT. A complete list of nominated articles follows:

Articles Nominated for Deletion in this Grouped AfD

ΣΑΠΦ (Sapph)^Talk 18:16, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Asia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:43, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:43, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep at least football, basketball, swimming and athletics -- those had plenty of coverage, at least on my neck of the woods. Weak keep on baseball, softball, and billiards & snooker per same reason. Dunno on the rest, but if the premise is one is kept, that means the others should be kept too. The basketball event had ~3k+ views per day when the tournament was ongoing, while football had ~15k+ page views, implying interest, ergo references should be very easy to find at least on those two. –H T D 18:59, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep/Merge I think straight deletion is a nuclear option without much thought. A much more useful approach would be to merge the information from the notability-failing articles into a games-specific results page at 2011 Southeast Asian Games results (2002 Commonwealth Games results is an inelegant example here). Such a sub-article is warranted, the targets can be section redirects, and there is no clear reason why we should delete information when it is suitable to merge it elsewhere. Notability is easily achievable for the major sports events, with the Athletics page being an example of the standard that can be achieved with a bit of effort. SFB 19:30, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Speaking of athletics, that article actually has prose and I count at least 5 valid references, including one from the IAAF! The nominator could've picked the really bad eggs. I've been watching these pages last month and most of them are really bad, either they're a sub-stub or incomplete. Those that are bad should probably be redirected to 2011 Southeast Asian Games or to a new article as SFB has said, although I dunno if someone will work on it. –H T D 19:38, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep all articles, where a real content exists (for instance Badminton at the 2011 Southeast Asian Games, Archery at the 2011 Southeast Asian Games, Wall climbing at the 2011 Southeast Asian Games etc. (no merging), delete all articles consisting only of headers like Fin swimming at the 2011 Southeast Asian Games, Table tennis at the 2011 Southeast Asian Games. --Florentyna (talk) 21:05, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Strong KEEP major and popular sport articles (football, basketball, badminton,athletic). KEEP, other article which content is reliable. Just FYI, most of content in seagames 2011 article is correct (i am watching sea games 2011 in tv), but the editor have difficulty to find reference in english ( most of reference in Indonesia) --*Annas* (talk) 12:45, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. If kept, Wall climbing should be renamed Sport climbing, per the 2011 Games site. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:16, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. - The same series of sports articles exists also for the 2005, 2007 and 2009 Southeast Asian Games. So if deleted we will have to look at these other years as well. I am quite sure there is a lot of coverage on these events, and it is also televised in many Asian countries. We just lack English language coverage about it. MakeSense64 (talk) 07:01, 25 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.