Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Boulbaba

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The result was redirect to Abu Lubaba ibn Abd al-Mundhir. As has been demonstrated, this is an alternate name for the existing article. No need to prolong this discussion, as we have a consensus, folks. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 16:32, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Biographical article which has extremely little information and has been unreferenced for the last 13 years. Fritzmann2002 ^{T, c, s, t} 15:01, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Fritzmann2002 ^{T, c, s, t} 15:01, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:03, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~ I'm pretty sure the name of the article should be "Sidi Boulbaba"; I thought this might be a hoax, given the editor who created it is a spa and the fact that's its one sentence, but this person appears to have existed, and was apparently a companion of Muhammed; aside from that they appear to be an obscure historical character. An expert in Islamic history may have more knowledge of their impact, but the current sources I can find are only passing mentions.Moneytrees🏝️^{Talk🌴Help out at CCI!} 04:20, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

~~Redirect to Gabès and rename per Mccapra. Moneytrees🏝️^{Talk🌴Help out at CCI!} 11:23, 18 September 2020 (UTC)~~[reply]

Redirect to Abu Lubaba ibn Abd al-Mundhir per HyperGaruda. Moneytrees🏝️^{Talk🌴Help out at CCI!} 15:08, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Definitely not a hoax and a well-known (quasi) historical figure in Tunisia and yes it should be Sidi Boulbaba. A topic WikiProject Tunisia may be interested in creating a decent article on. I'm not volunteering to do it as the search I've done doesn't bring up RIS I could easily work with. The subject is almost certainly notable but we can't keep an unsourced bio. I'd suggest as an ATD redirecting to Gabès where he is sort of the local patron saint, but would not oppose deletion without prejudice against recreation if someone works up a properly-sourced article. Mccapra (talk) 11:06, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I couldn't find enough credible information to make a decent article, but this is way out of my sphere of knowledge. A redirect to be created later by an expert seems like the right way to go for now. Fritzmann2002 ^{T, c, s, t} 12:19, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Abu Lubaba ibn Abd al-Mundhir. Boulbaba (بولبابة) is the Northwest African Arabic spelling of Abu Lubaba. A few hits on Google Books speak of Boulbaba al-Ansari, which happens to be the title of this Arabic article. Then I came across https://allafrica.com/stories/201204191162.html, which makes the relation pretty obvious. PS: "sidi" may violate MOS:HON, being a rough equivalent of "saint". --HyperGaruda (talk) 04:58, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Moneytrees, Mccapra, and Fritzmann2002: Is this enough to establish that they are the same person? Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:05, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Eddie891 and HyperGaruda: Great find! Yes this clearly is the same person so the correct redirect target. Re the title ‘Sidi’, articles about Christian saints have ‘saint’ in the title. It’s not exactly the same thing, but we have Sidi Mahrez etc. Mccapra (talk) 16:03, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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