Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Candaulism
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was keep. Mailer Diablo 01:09, 13 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
A poorly attested neologism with 144 unique Google hits found on Wikipedia mirrors, swinger sites and porno sites. Not used in the scientific literature, Google Scholar and Google Books don't have hits for the term. That includes the German and French versions Candaulismus and candaulisme. Pilatus 03:40, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep About as many hits as you would expect for a niche "hobby" like this Ruby 03:43, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I thought swingers call it cuckoldry or cuckolding. My complaint isn't that it isn't common, it is that it isn't called by this name. Pilatus 03:45, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- But you already told us that swinger sites and porno sites call it by that name. Kappa 03:50, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Wikipedia isn't for things made up in school one day. Porno and swinging is popular; only 144 hits for a sexual practice is poor. Cambridge City Football Club has 2090 Google hits, and they play only Nationwide South! Pilatus 03:56, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Why are we comparing the unique hits of an unusual sexual practice with the full hits for a football club? Kappa 04:33, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- It's picked as an example for something that is not very popular or of regional interest only. Cambridge City are a regional club playing 6th league. I'd expect something genuinely popular to clock up more Google hits than that club. Pilatus 04:42, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Why are we comparing the unique hits of an unusual sexual practice with the full hits for a football club? Kappa 04:33, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Wikipedia isn't for things made up in school one day. Porno and swinging is popular; only 144 hits for a sexual practice is poor. Cambridge City Football Club has 2090 Google hits, and they play only Nationwide South! Pilatus 03:56, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- But you already told us that swinger sites and porno sites call it by that name. Kappa 03:50, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I thought swingers call it cuckoldry or cuckolding. My complaint isn't that it isn't common, it is that it isn't called by this name. Pilatus 03:45, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep or merge Kappa 03:53, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep per Ruby. What will people think of next? --† Ðy§ep§ion † 03:58, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep Cuckoldry is when the wife actually has some form of sexual activity with someone not her husband; this is just exposure. Avi 04:17, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge with cuckoldry which is the much more common name for this. Capitalistroadster 09:24, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I believe cuckoldry requires actual sexual contact (intercourse etc.); this article describes a completely non-tactile phenomenon. -- Avi 16:52, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Avi is correct; cuckoldry is different from this. If a woman has sexual relations with someone other than her husband, her husband has been cuckolded. If a man shows people revealing pictures of his wife, no cuckoldry has occured, and only husbands can be cuckolded at any rate. Ergot 17:08, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I believe cuckoldry requires actual sexual contact (intercourse etc.); this article describes a completely non-tactile phenomenon. -- Avi 16:52, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Keep I am not sure if the name is the proper one, but deleting the contents on that basis seems wrong. If there is a more appropriate title, rename it. Reading the article also brought to mind the story of Queen Vashti in the Book of Esther, chap. 1, verses 9-12. The practice, whatever its name, is certainly not cuckoldry as no sex was to occur there and I don't think that the King was feeling as a cuckold in putting his wife's "beauty" to the eyes of the voyeurs... Carlossuarez46 19:47, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep The term is taken from the german book "Lexicon von Liebe" (1984) by Ernest Borneman. The term is older than cuckoldry, was applied to nudism and did not implied necessarily sexual contact,
as cuckoldry. Candaulism was considered a mix of exhibitionism, voyeurism and masochism-sadism. Cuckoldry was unthinkable.--Giancarlo Rossi 09:50, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep as above. --Siva1979Talk to me 13:38, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.