Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harsh Vardhan Jain

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The result was delete. DS (talk) 12:45, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Harsh Vardhan Jain

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Self-promotional autobiography, doesn't appear to meet WP:BIO in any case. NawlinWiki (talk) 14:08, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - fails WP:BIO; tone of article is highly WP:PROMO; the few references that actually support the claims made don't appear to be WP:Reliable sources. For example, claims of being an "Emissary for many Countries" is referenced by a listing on www.consul.cc, "The Consular Chamber of Commerce", a "who's who" type pay-per-listing site. Top Jim (talk) 14:38, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As the Article was first made by name HV Jain', but the administrators changed it to Harsh Vardhan Jain'

Kindly do the needful

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Article is been written for other person then how can it be a self promo.

It is been requested to kindly again review the matter of deletion please, as all necessary changes has been done accordingly. Deletion of words & phrases like - "Emissary for many Countries" , "The Consular Chamber of Commerce".

But as a matter of fact Consul.cc is a government site which states the status for Ambassoadors, Diplomats etc, But as administrators doesnot wish that such info, so it is been deleted accordingly.

As I would request you to contact User:Deb as a lot of help and contribution was done in the article, Kindly see the last Article before deletion please, so that the contribution can be seen there, and a guidance was given to the wikipedia new users.

It is been requested kindly see that since 6 - 8 weeks no problem was associated with article deletion etc, and no prior notice was given regarding the deletion of the article, today only in 5 - 10 mins all articles were deleted.

It is been requested to serve a notice before hand and a guidance to review & for correction of Article.

It is been requested that kindly see that how much time & efforts a person does for updation, maintaining, etc for an Article. But in last without any mistake it gets deleted, Hours & Hours are there inputed in writing a good Article.

It is been requested that the Article has been in total Guidelines of wikipedia including references & Conflict of Interest, as all the prior mistakes were pointed by User:Deb, and accordingly all the corrections were done long time back.

It is a request to kindly re-add the Article which was deleted today, as that was prepared with all guidelines & efforts, as in history it can be seen easily.

Kindly review the History for last 45 days for the article Harsh Vardhan Jain, and if in last 45 days if anytime a deletion post has been posted to the article then kindly delete it, otherwise please re-add the article.

Looking forward & kind request for addition of the Article.

Regards,HARRYMAGIC (talk) 15:32, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Busy lad. RSA and ROSL are pay to join - you too could become an FRSA quite easily. As to other things - extremely promotional tone. I got told off once for using the word 'vanity', so I won't call this a vanity page. It looks like another item in a collection of everywhere you can get your name, starting (alphabetically) with aboutus. "Presently Mr Jain is working actively with the organizations in India, United Kingdom, Middle East, Mauritius, Eastern Europe and in Central African Continent. Considered amongst one of the Liaison man and Consultants throughout the Globe. he is currently engaged in brokerage, trading and consultancy activities of Fertilizer, Chemicals, Iron & Steel, Natural Gas, Defence products, Oil & Petroleum and all related products & its derivatives." - I take this to mean he buys and sells things. In 11 Gpages (after minusing a mathematician of the same name and ignoring a biologist too), I couldn't find a reliable reference. Everything like twitter and blogs, yes. No emissaries or brokers. Some of the stuff is probably other people of the same name (I suffer from the same problem outside...), but there is still a lack. With a rewrite and removal of peacock phrases, and solid references (see Top Jim's post above), I would have no objection to Mr Jain having an article and have nothing whatever against him personally (never even heard of him before this...), but notability must be shown and referenced properly. Peridon (talk) 15:46, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kindly see-

As the Article was first made by name HV Jain, but the administrators changed it to Harsh Vardhan Jain

Kindly do the needful Find sources:

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HARRYMAGIC (talk) 15:52, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per the nomination. This article has vast sources, virtually none of which are relevant to the actual subject, and all fail to assert any kind of notability under WP:BIO. - Addionne (talk) 15:56, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Many Viewers Not to Delete, Kindly see that in within 2 - 3 weeks the Article has been viewed by approx 2000 viewers, It may relate the positive response for the Article. And if there were any problem or wrong info supplied then it would have been in notice long back, Thus it is requested to kindly add the Article which was deleted earlier.122.162.81.180 (talk) 18:53, 19 October 2010 (UTC) — 122.162.81.180 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Wikipedia doesn't operate by popularity polls or viewer counts. By the way, you may have found a feature I haven't. How do you know how many people have viewed the article? I use the old format but I don't remember that feature when I tried the new one. Peridon (talk) 19:19, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I was not knowing that Wikipedia doesnot want popular Articles, which will increase the use of Wikipedia by common people.

But I think that if 00.00001% contribution I do in Wikipedia Articles - It will lead in increase of popularity of Wikipedia in Common people.

ThanksHARRYMAGIC (talk) 19:49, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:07, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:07, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete as hoax (well, attempt to hoodwink wikipedia, not sure on that speedy category!) - going through the sources now, the ones I have looked at so far do not mention him at all. They are mis-titled to suggest he is mentioned. Look at this source apparently used to confirm he owns the rights to the East India Company it's a comment on the news item that says someone else entirely owns these rights, and the comments then link back to wp for evidence. AAaaarrrgghhh! Bigger digger (talk) 23:42, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- More rubbish - Not come across something like this before, amazing how annoyed it makes you! www.jaingroupofcompanies.com is registered to an address in Wembley. That's unexpected for a company established in India 40-odd alleged years ago. And even if it's legit, there's a major copyvio issue there. Bigger digger (talk) 23:54, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - More Sourcing to a Blackburn Rovers Fan Forum, probably as a result of some other suggestiveness Harrymagic sneaked in there. Bigger digger (talk) 00:34, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - Getting boring... Sources at Leicester Council, House of Commons and Tribune India, none of which contain the word "Jain". The next time I post will be to show the article stripped of all these non-sources. Bigger digger (talk) 00:39, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      - Interesting again! - Wow, so much effort has gone into this. http://www.jaingroupofcompanies.com/org.html lists Emirates Petroleum PLC as one of its companies. That company is registered at an address (5 Jupiter House, Calleva PArk, Aldermarston) that you can buy (scroll down a bit). Bizarrely, a lot of the photos seem to be of the people they purport to be, so maybe they're also good with photoshop? So odd. Diff from start to finish, thanks to TopJim, who clearly knows what he's doing! Bigger digger (talk) 01:40, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        Thank you for doing the research this time around. The last AFD discussion was Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harsh Jain. Uncle G (talk) 04:28, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        Well I'll add a salt to my vote as well then - all the redirects and the previous AfD nom too. Bigger digger (talk) 11:44, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Delete. Per above deletes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Epeefleche (talk • contribs) 07:31, 20 October 2010
Delete as hoax. (Kudos to Bigger Digger for rooting it out.) Considering recreation strongly recommend Salt as well. Edward321 (talk) 13:56, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Mere smoke and mirrors. -- Hoary (talk) 14:10, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Nice one Bigger Digger.... I wondered but hadn't time to go in so far. Peridon (talk) 21:17, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Wow! -- Hoary (talk) 02:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
For the record, HARRYMAGIC has been blocked as a sock. DS (talk) 17:59, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- A sock of HVJAIN no less! Bigger digger (talk) 22:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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