Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Canadian women government ministers (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:21, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Canadian women government ministers

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Poorly maintained and deeply-context deficient list with significant maintainability problems. For starters, it just indiscriminately lists women in one common omnibus list, regardless of whether they served in a federal or provincial/territorial cabinet, which isn't particularly helpful -- if there's any value to this, it would be far better served by either splitting the list up into separate subsections for each individual government, or actually creating full standalone spinoff lists for each individual government, for clarity of context, because federal and provincial/territorial cabinets are different beasts.
For another thing, it's actually missing far more names than it's including -- a quick WP:AWB comparison between this list and Category:Women government ministers of Canada found 326 women in the category who are not in this list, compared to just 135 women who are in both places.
This list hasn't been updated with any new names since 2017, so no woman who joined a Canadian government cabinet in the past seven years has ever been added here at all, and even in 2017 it already wasn't particularly complete, because the creator basically aimed for at-the-time comprehensiveness only for the federal and Ontario cabinets, and bunked off nearly the entire rest of the country.
In other words, this list is deeply incomplete, and isn't organized in a way that would actually be helpful or valuable to a reader -- and since we already have Category:Women government ministers of Canada as it is, it's not entirely clear that it would be worth the time investment to actually fix this list. I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody actually is willing to put in that time, but it's not serving readers to hold onto a deeply incomplete and poorly organized version that isn't actually being repaired. Bearcat (talk) 18:03, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Politics, Lists, and Canada. Bearcat (talk) 18:03, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 18:35, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - also, is the name correct? Woman is not an adjective. I suppose it could be a noun phrase - but where's the hyphenation? Nfitz (talk) 22:09, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Previously at AFD so not eligible for a Soft Deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:26, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Canadian women in politics hasn't been a big issue in a while, and this list doesn't do much more than the category. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:08, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NLIST; navigational purposes are served by the identical category. Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, the article needs to be more than just bullet points if someone wanted to give this a better try perhaps just for federal ministers or otherwise organized. I'm also concerned about the 20+ pages like Women in the 41st Canadian Parliament that are duplicative of List of women elected to Canadian Parliament. That just duplicates List of House members of the 41st Parliament of Canada but with the men removed so those are quite redundant and the prose can be consolidated/merged. Reywas92^Talk 19:28, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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