User talk:AMartinios

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--Horcrux (talk) 20:01, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Empty data

Please stop creating empty data WT20 (talk) 18:55, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

What do you mean empty data? I have created some entries for, mostly, species that did not exist in Wikidata yet, despite the genus doing so. They have name, descriptions, and aliases. So how are they empty? AMartinios (talk) 19:11, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

You should connect your items with the rest of the Wikidata ontology, by at least employing the instance of (P31) property (or subclass of (P279), depending on the specific case). Check also the items that are similar to the ones that you're creating. --Horcrux (talk) 19:47, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

P.S. When you answer to another user in your talk page, you should use the {{Ping}} template for correctly notifying him your response.

Based on the feedback here I have added some relevant properties to the new entries I created, "Scientific name", "Taxonomic rank", and so on, as appropriate on each entry.

@WT20, Horcrux, Bovlb, Fralambert: AMartinios (talk) 23:52, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! Let me give you a tip: when an en.wiki redirect is avaliable for the item's intended meaning, you can add it by specifying intentional sitelink to redirect as badge (like I did here). --Horcrux (talk) 08:29, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Bovlb. You recently made an empty item. An item is empty if it does not have any claims or sitelinks. Unfortunately, such items are not useful to Wikidata, and they are normally deleted. If you were planning to return to this item later in order to complete it and it was deleted you can request it be undeleted here. Remember that all items are expected to demonstrate notability, and we strongly discourage editors from creating items where they have a conflict of interest, for example about themselves or their employers. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks!  Bovlb (talk) 21:18, 11 February 2024 (UTC) --Bovlb (talk) 21:18, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

@Bovlb For some reason all of these taxons are valid. I'm kind of mad because @WT20 RfD all of these. I know we do not have en:Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers, but maybe we should. We do have Wikidata:Be bold and pretty sure that starting RfDs on multiple valid taxon is not. Fralambert (talk) 23:48, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

It appears that the items are now no longer empty, which is great progress. Many of them still do lack any indication of notability (e.g. Thebini (Q124492710), Jeletzkya douglassae (Q124492324), Mesaxonia (Q124492185), Belemnites calloviensis (Q124491169), Bungarus flaviceps baluensis (Q124490437)). If these correspond to entries at WikiSpecies, then we can add sitelinks. I'm assuming this information has to be coming from somewhere, so can we please add references? Is there some identifier scheme that we could add? Bovlb (talk) 00:34, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Two active admins answered here and I agree with them but my one suggestion is to create one by one instead of creating multiple blank data at once and complete them. thank you WT20 (talk) 05:42, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

@AMartinios As Bovlb said, I would also like to add some references to each of your data, and if WikiSpecies has this data, add it to the sitelink. Also, you should note whether there is similar data, and if there is, you can merge it without creating it. Thank to you for your great work. I am impressed by your work 43 hours ago You joined and contributed 1,599WT20 (talk) 06:31, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Apologies, I hadn't realised yet that I had more to do to make valid entries than just making an entry, provide a short explanation, and add some aliases. I'll be keeping that in mind for the future.

@WT20: AMartinios (talk) 12:30, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

I will be checking for more links where possible.

For most of the species-level taxa, there was already a genus entry, and the genus is monoypical and already has the wikipedia page linked to it, so it can't be linked again to the species. Despite this I would argue having a separate entry for both genus and species, even in monotypical genera, is prefereable. You never know when a genus might get another member; as a recent example a new species of Tyrannosaurus was described just a few months ago, T. mcraeensis joing T. rex, the latter of which has been the sole member of it's genus for over a century.

As for linking to Wikispecies and related projects, I will if possible, but not all these taxa have pages there yet. And I am unsure if I want to further invest time in making those pages myself.

@Bovlb: AMartinios (talk) 12:47, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Merge the page with which there is already a link. If necessary, you can help the merged page with more information. However, I have doubts whether it is necessary to have two same data.I think an administrator's comment is expected in view of all these discussions WT20 (talk) 13:30, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

If a Wikipedia article has sub-topics that don't qualify for their own article, it's often appropriate to create a redirect link from the sub-topic name to to combined article. This is especially true if the sub-topic has its own section title within the combined article, as that can be used as an anchor for the redirect link. These redirect links are not only useful for someone searching Wikipedia, but (as Horcrux points out above) they can be added as sitelinks to the associated Wikidata item. (They also make it easier if anyone ever writes a separate article in the future.)

Thank for your efforts here. Please believe that we're not just trying to make your life more difficult. We're trying to help you to improve these items.

Again, if you're getting your information from some source document, please add that as a reference to the items using either reference URL (P854) to add a reference to a claim or described at URL (P973) for a top-level claim. Bovlb (talk) 16:33, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Merge

Hi again! Please check this merge of mine. Horcrux (talk) 10:31, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

This merge seems fine to me, it seems I overlooked the synonymity of Euteleostei and Euteleostomorpha.

@Horcrux: AMartinios (talk) 12:28, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Removing statements with references

Please do not remove data statements supported by references. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:31, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Niklas Luhmann article

Hi. I noted an issue in the German sociologist Niklas Luhmann's entry. It was asserted that his political party affiliation was with the Nazi Party. This 'fact' is taken from a moment in his biography. We can't deny a fact. But this has to be noted in the Biography section describing his life experiences during infancy and adolescence, marked by the Nazi period. If one thinks it's relevant, I wouldn't believe so. Anyway, it was not a political party affiliation and his thinking and oeuvre were more or less 'apolitical' in tone.

Kind regards Jonathan Campanella (talk) 20:52, 21 August 2024 (UTC)