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Prototype for editing Wikidata infoboxes on Wikipedia

Hello,

I’m sorry for writing in English. It’d be great if someone could translate this message if necessary.

One of the most requested features for Wikidata is to enable editing of Wikidata’s data directly from Wikipedia, so the editors can continue their workflow without switching websites.

The Wikidata development team has been working on a tool to achieve this goal: fill and edit the Wikipedia infoboxes with information from Wikidata, directly on Wikipedia, via the Visual Editor.

We already asked for feedback in 2015, and collected some interesting ideas which we shared with you in this thesis. Now we would like to present to you our first prototype and collect your feedback, in order to improve and continue the development of this feature.

We present this work to you very early, so we can include your feedback before and all along the development. You are the core users of this feature, so we want to make sure that it fits your needs and editing processes.

You will find the prototype, description of the features, and a demo video, on this page. Feel free to add any comment or feedback on the talk page. The page is currently not translated in every languages, but you can add your contribution by helping to translate it.

Unfortunately, I won’t be able to follow all the discussions on Wikipedia, so if you want to be sure that your feedback is read, please add it on the Wikidata page, in your favorite language. Thanks for your understanding.

Thanks, Lea Lacroix (WMDE)

New notification when a page is connected to Wikidata

Hello all,

(Please help translate to your language)

The Wikidata development team is about to deploy a new feature on all Wikipedias. It is a new type of notification (via Echo, the notification system you see at the top right of your wiki when you are logged in), that will inform the creator of a page, when this page is connected to a Wikidata item.

You may know that Wikidata provides a centralized system for all the interwikilinks. When a new page is created, it should be connected to the corresponding Wikidata item, by modifying this Wikidata item. With this new notification, editors creating pages will be informed when another editor connects this page to Wikidata.

This feature will be deployed on May 30th on all the Wikipedias, excepting English, French and German. This feature will be disable by default for existing editors, and enabled by default for new editors.

This is the first step of the deployments, the Wikipedias and other Wikimedia projects will follow in the next months.

If you have any question, suggestion, please let me know by pinging me. You can also follow and leave a comment on the Phabricator ticket.

Thanks go to Matěj Suchánek who developed this feature!

Thank you! Lea Lacroix (WMDE) (talk)

Having trouble with Lake Maurice image

I can't figure out how to add an image to the Lake Maurice page. I tried to add "Lake Maurice 0317.svg" from Commons to the infobox. Is it because it's a .svg file? Any suggestions of what I should do? SpinningBanner (talk) 02:41, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

@SpinningBanner: I was able to add it. See this diff to see how I did it. --Auntof6 (talk) 03:22, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

@Auntof6: Thank you for helping figure it out. I must of not done something right. SpinningBanner (talk) 00:22, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Anyone else having trouble with HotCat?

HotCat doesn't seem to be working consistently recently. I've been working from Special:UncategorizedPages. When I click on a page, the usual HotCat links appear sometimes but not other times. Has anyone else noticed any issues? --Auntof6 (talk) 08:11, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Edited to add: Actually, it seems like other gadgets might also be affected. I use the one that adds a UTC clock to the upper right corner of the screen, and that one isn't always there, either. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:13, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

I use the clock one and its there for me. Probably local to you issue. -DJSasso (talk) 11:53, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Check your script pages and make sure they're in line with the most recent changes. (For example, most script pages now need to start $.when( $.ready, mw.loader.using( ['mediawiki.util'] )).then( function() { ... StevenJ81 (talk) 17:16, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

I suspected that that could be an issue. However, all the code I've put on my common.js page was copied and pasted: I don't know enough to figure out what needs to be updated. --Auntof6 (talk) 19:19, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

I'm no great expert myself. But early next week I should be in a position to at least have a look at it. StevenJ81 (talk) 21:01, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

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I discovered something. I usually use Firefox, but I just tried Internet Explorer and everything's working again. Maybe it was something in recent updates to Firefox. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:59, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

I use Firefox as my main browser and have recently had a hard time with Cat-a-lot. I never experienced any specific issues with HotCat; just now I cleared my cookies and everything seems to be working fine. eurodyne (talk) 07:59, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

I'm having trouble with Cat-a-lot, too. The next time I'm back on my main computer, I'll try clearing cookies and see if that helps. Thanks for the suggestion. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:52, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Visual editor has problems with refences...

Hello all,

I recently edited Grenfell Tower fire, and noticed that when you use the visual editor, and insert a statement with a named reference, that the visual edtor may change this reference's name if a ref with such a name already exists. Prolblem is, that in the references section, the reference will show up empty.

Copy/paste in the source view works as expected though.

Anyone else noticed this? --Eptalon (talk) 20:09, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

ResponseHelper port

Some admins here may be familiar with MusikAnimal's awesome script which helps speed up responding to reports at AIV (VIP here) by having a one-click insert of the {{AIV}} response template. I noticed here you use {{VIP}} response templates, so I ported the script over. So far it'll only work at WP:VIP -- There'sNoTime ^{(to explain)} 10:01, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

is this the right place?

why isnt there a (")complex(") wikipedia? is this the right forum to ask this question or is there a wikipedia incubator? isnt here a central discussion for all wikipedias?68.151.25.115 (talk) 21:10, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

This is the right place to ask these questions.

• There is a "complex" English Wikipedia; it's just called "English Wikipedia", and you can find it at en:Main page.
• Here on Simple English Wikipedia we do not have an incubator like "regular" English Wikipedia, but registered users can work on articles in sandboxes in their own userspace.
• There is no central discussion area specifically for Wikipedias, but Meta-Wiki is a central site for all Wikimedia projects, including Commons, the Wikipedias, Wiktionary, and more.

I hope I've helped answer your questions. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:12, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Umm.. ya got something showing there..

So, I'm not sure if you're aware of this, I found it on accident. It seems that MediaWiki has all namespaces indexed by default. Which means that currently all the user space on here is searchable by Google. It's not a "good" or "bad" thing, in my view, but at least something you should be aware of, so you can discuss if you'd like it changed. Drewmutt (^ᴥ^) talk 02:53, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Indeed, they may use the __NOINDEX__ magic word to prevent this. --George (Talk · Contribs · CentralAuth · Log) 13:09, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Edit toolbar missing

Hi, Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask this,
Basically the edit toolbar isn't showing for me, I've reset all preferences but no luck,
Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 02:48, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

If you mean the toolbar that has the buttons for bolding, italicizing, signing, etc., then I've been having the same problem off and on. There may have been a software update. Sometimes the bar comes back when I refresh the page or preview it. Have you tried that, or anything else? --Auntof6 (talk) 02:53, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

try clearing your monobook.js page or whatever you use as your skin. I was having the same issue and eventually found that that was the solution per discussion on the English Wikipedia. Something about some of the scripts being outdated which was leading to the issue of the Twinkle tools not displaying. Only (talk) 11:00, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi Auntof6, The bar does appear at times however for me it's very sparse - It takes about 3-4 refreshes for it to show,

Hi Only, My vector.css is the old headings etc before it was all updated and I've removed the autoed script from vector.js and still no luck,

I'm not all that knowledgable with software stuff but can't it be reversed until someone can find out what the issue is ?, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 13:06, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

You would have to remove it from your .js file and then clear the cache on your browser and reopen it to insure it was using the now cleared file. -DJSasso (talk) 13:19, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi Djsasso, Ah bingo! - It was the crap in my common.js file wwhich was causing it not to work, Thanks all for your help - much appreciated, –Davey2010^Talk 14:23, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

New special page, Lint errors, shows where some cleanup is needed

I just noticed a new special page, Special:LintErrors. It lists various syntax errors in our pages. (I don't know what all of them mean, though.) Some of these are similar to the errors you can find at Check Wikipedia. If you like to do cleanup, check out some of the things listed. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:52, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

For those interested, the help page is at MediaWiki. --Tbennert (talk) 03:59, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Wikidata changes now also appear in enhanced recent changes

Hello, and sorry to write this message in English. You can help translating it.

Starting from today, you will be able to display Wikidata changes in both modes of the recent changes and the watchlist.

Read and translate the full message

Thank you! Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 08:33, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

(wrong target page? you can fix it here)