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The script common.js
[edit]This script has recently become non-functional. Fixing it requires a far greater expertise that I have. You can have a look through here. Fingers crossed. Andyboorman (talk) 15:00, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have contacted the script originator as well. Andyboorman (talk) 15:08, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Andy Boorman: The only difference I can see between your most recent version (October 2019) and the most recent version of Rillke's original script (September 2018) is that at the end of line 56 in your file the text says
csrfTokenwhereas in the original it sayseditToken. I've added a screenshot were you can see the diffs marked with purple text (Rillke's version to the left, yours to the right).
- @Andy Boorman: The only difference I can see between your most recent version (October 2019) and the most recent version of Rillke's original script (September 2018) is that at the end of line 56 in your file the text says
- Change that single word in your script and see what happens. An easier way may be to import Rilke's entire script, instead of copying the code. In order to do that simply replace all code in your commons.js file with the following code string:
importScript('User:Rillke/createRedirects.js')
- You may need to refresh your browser and/or clear the browser cashe and cookies in order to see the changes. Good luck!
–Tommy Kronkvist (talk) 15:59, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Change that single word in your script and see what happens. An easier way may be to import Rilke's entire script, instead of copying the code. In order to do that simply replace all code in your commons.js file with the following code string:
- @Andy Boorman: I see that you've now updated your
common.jsfile. Did it help? Tommy Kronkvist (talk) 15:02, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Andy Boorman: I see that you've now updated your
For reference, the discussion with the JavaScript author can be found in Wikimedia Commons: User talk:Rillke.
–Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 17:24, 12 June 2024 (UTC).
- Nothing seems to have happened or changed. Such a shame. Andyboorman (talk) 07:51, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Tommy Kronkvist: The script has not been edited so I can only assume it is something to do with a recent wiki update. Andyboorman (talk) 10:36, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Andy: I've made a small change to your
common.jsfile, reflecting the fact that we've added tags for automatic localization (i.e.{{int:Synonyms}}and{{int:Synonymy}}) to some of our Synonymy sections. Any improvement?
–Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 16:58, 25 June 2024 (UTC).- @Tommy Kronkvist: No seems to make things worse. Do I need to remove it and reload? If I could remember how to do that! Andyboorman (talk) 17:59, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Andy Boorman: I've reverted my edit of the file. I forgot that my additions were partly made up of wiki code. Your
commons.jsfile is 100% JavaScript code which most likely isn't at all compatible with wiki code syntax. I've got a workaround coming up, but that will have to wait a while. It's +30 °C here and that makes me somewhat incompatible with most programming languages...
–Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 18:17, 25 June 2024 (UTC).
- @Andy Boorman: I've reverted my edit of the file. I forgot that my additions were partly made up of wiki code. Your
- @Tommy Kronkvist: No seems to make things worse. Do I need to remove it and reload? If I could remember how to do that! Andyboorman (talk) 17:59, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Andy: I've made a small change to your
- @Tommy Kronkvist: The script has not been edited so I can only assume it is something to do with a recent wiki update. Andyboorman (talk) 10:36, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
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Voting to ratify the Wikimedia Movement Charter is now open – cast your vote
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ISSN Question
[edit]Hi all, I'm currently working on cleaning up Ralph Vary Chamberlin. The publication Pamona College Journal of Entomology (see 1910) was changed to Journal of Entomology and Zoology. The previous title of the publication has a different ISSN (2831-9435 [1]). In these instances, is it best to create a new page, redirect links referencing the old ISSN to the more recent page (i.e. ISSN 2831-9435 -> 0095-8530), or just reference the more recent ISSN? Parasiticfrisk (talk) 21:19, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Create a ISSN page for 2831-9435. Burmeister (talk) 10:15, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! I have created the new page and linked the corresponding Wikidata entry (Q51520043). Parasiticfrisk (talk) 19:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
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A special election has been called to fill additional vacancies on the U4C. The call for candidates phase is open from now through July 19, 2024.
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XX International Botanical Congress 2024
[edit]There will be few if any updates to IPNI for a couple of weeks, as the staff are in attendance at Nomenclature Section of the congress. There will be changes to the Code and see this PDF for a summary of proposals. One of significance to plants' entries in WS will be the terms type/type species or genus. PDF of changes to e International Code of Nomenclature for algae, fungi, and plants
Happy reading and we await developments. Andyboorman (talk) 18:22, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Just seen this in The Guardian, reporting that the epithet caffra (an ethnic slur) is to be changed to affra. I'm presuming this is being treated as an orthographic correction to be made, without affecting authorship, date of publication, priority, etc., but the Guardian article isn't clear on that. - MPF (talk) 13:05, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
Wikimedia Movement Charter ratification voting results
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Duplicate/Name change
[edit]Susanne Hunger got married and is Susanne King-Jones. d:Q33679227 has been merged into d:Q21516658. Frlgin (talk) 13:57, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Resolved, thank you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:32, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Shouldn't Susanne King-Jones be the page name rather than a redirect? At present she seems to prefer to use "King-Jones" rather than "Hunger" as her surname in her publications. Monster Iestyn (talk) 15:50, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- We currently list two papers; one with each name. IPNI standard form is "Hunger".Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:47, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- More papers are listed on her ResearchGate profile linked in the Authority control [2] (though most are not related to botany), and there are IPNI records for both names: [3] (standard form King-Jones) and [4] (standard form Hunger). Though, IPNI should be contacted about these being for the same person. Monster Iestyn (talk) 21:18, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- We currently list two papers; one with each name. IPNI standard form is "Hunger".Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:47, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Shouldn't Susanne King-Jones be the page name rather than a redirect? At present she seems to prefer to use "King-Jones" rather than "Hunger" as her surname in her publications. Monster Iestyn (talk) 15:50, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
Botanists vote to remove racist reference from plants’ scientific names
[edit]Story in The Guardian:
Original proposal:
Discussion on Wikipedia:
-- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:16, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Meanwhile all plant species with the original (insulting) epithets "caffra", "caffrum", "caffer" have been renamed by IPNI and POWO to "afra", "afrum" or "afer". The c-words are treated as correctable orthographical variants. Wikispecies and Wikidata need to be updated. --Thiotrix (talk) 08:30, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
Peter Schmidt: Possible Duplicate
[edit]Are Peter Schmidt (arachnologist) and Peter Yulievich Schmidt the same person?
Please see discussion at Talk:Peter Schmidt (arachnologist). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:29, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, this is the same person. Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 20:12, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. Merged. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:50, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
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Ophrys holoserica vs. Ophrys holosericea
[edit]Please see discussion at Talk:Ophrys holoserica#Ophrys holoserica must be corrected into Ophrys holosericea. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:35, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- IPNI maintains the correct name as Ophrys holosericea [5]. WS should follow this unless there are compelling reason not to do so. They also provide a 2008 reference to support their opinion. Andyboorman (talk) 15:47, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Copied over from Talk:Ophrys holoserica
- See this paper; Greuter, W., 2008. On the correct name of the late spider orchid, and its appropriate spelling: Ophrys holosericea. J. Eur. Orch, 40(4): 657-662. ResearchGate. This is followed by IPNI, EMD and POWO. In addition, the basionym for Ophrys fuciflora (F.W.Schmidt) Moench, Suppl. Meth. (Moench) 311. (1802) was published after that for Ophrys holosericea (Burm.f.) Greuter, Boissiera 13: 185 (1967). Therefore, the later has priority under ICBN, unless there is problems with publication. Until Kreutz publishes and convinces us otherwise, then this orthography and synonymy should be used. The taxon page needs to be moved in my opinion, as this is a very important orchid in the European Flora. Andyboorman (talk) 19:25, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
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Two names in reference?
[edit]Hello.
While creating the page for Aulastraeopora, I noticed that while it was described by Pietro Lodovico Prever in 1909, there was this bit "In Parona, C.F. (ed.), and I wondered what it meant. The full reference is:
- Prever, P.L. 1909. Anthozoa, 51-147. In Parona, C.F. (ed). La fauna coralligena del Cretaceo dei Monti d'Ocre nell' Abruzzo Aquilano. Memorie descrittive della carta geologica d'Italia 5.
Just to be safe, I categorized it both as Prever's and Parona's taxa, but I'm unsure if it should have been just Prever. I just wonder what's the protocol for this sort of reference.
Sorry if I worded it weirdly.
--DeanDingus23 (talk) 10:56, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hello DeanDingus23, Prever wrote the chapter upon Anthozoa. The citation "in Parona" means that it is part of a book edited by Parona. But Parona is not the author of the Anthozoa chapter, its author is Prever alone. Kind regards, --Thiotrix (talk) 14:35, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed just what I was going to post. Andyboorman (talk) 14:55, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
Vote now to fill vacancies of the first U4C
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Measles morbillivirus -> Morbillivirus hominis
[edit]Please see discussion at Talk:Measles morbillivirus#Morbillivirus hominis. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits _Morbillivirus_hominis" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:41, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Every single virus species has been renamed in the last 4 years. The ICTV has adopted the system of binomial nomenclature (see the proposal and Article 3.21 of the nomenclatural code) long used for other organisms. Previously virus species names could be any number of words (not exactly two), and didn't necessarily contain the name of the genus (and when the genus name was included it was usually the last word in the species name, not the first).
- The 2023 ICTV taxonomy release (published in June 2024) is the first release to have completed (?) the changeover to binomial species names. (I'm not certain it is complete, but I haven't come across any non-binomial species in it, and the previous ICTV taxonomy release had many non-binomials). Plantdrew (talk) 17:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- I've moved Measles morbillivirus to Morbillivirus hominis, per the references. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 07:53, 31 July 2024 (UTC).
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Request robot work: Add Chinese name for Chinese plant authors
[edit]A paper published on Biodiversity Science provides Chinese names for all botanical authors from China.[1] I would suggest adding the Chinese names on their Wikispecies pages. Interaccoonale (talk) 02:36, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
References
- ↑ 杜诚; 刘军; 刘夙; 马金双 (2022), "中国植物分类学者的历史与现状", 生物多样性, 30: 22355, doi:10.17520/biods.2022355
{{citation}}: CS1 maint: date and year (link).
Citrus limonia VS. Citrus limon
[edit]Please see discussion at Talk:Citrus × limon#Redirect is not appropriate. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:34, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
Category:Series identifiers revisited
[edit]As a followup to Wikispecies:Village Pump/Archive 65#Category:Series identifiers, I have moved everything in Category:Series identifiers (except Category:ISSN) to Category:Sources. If nobody objects for whatever reason, I would suggest deleting Category:Series identifiers and moving Category:ISSN to either Category:Sources or Category:Journals, depending on what Wikispecies users prefer. Monster Iestyn (talk) 14:50, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- If you are moving ISSN then they are journals I guess. Andyboorman (talk) 19:24, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
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Merge two pages, advice
[edit]What's a good way to merge the content of these two pages? I want the content of what should become the defunct tribe Triaenonychini to become integrated into the subfamily Triaenonychinae. It's little content, so i'm considering just to paste over then build on that, i'm just a little wary as over on wikipedia i frequently hit against issues of edit attribution and history merges. Sjl197 (talk) 02:00, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Next time, move the page to the new rank to preserve the history of the page. Burmeister (talk) 18:16, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Sjl197 I don't think copy+paste can be avoided for Triaenonychini/Triaenonychinae, since both pages already existed as far back as 2008. That is, not unless it's acceptable to delete Triaenonychinae so that Triaenonychini could be renamed to the subfamily title, but as far as I know it isn't? Monster Iestyn (talk) 18:50, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- You may just have to provide attribution in the edit summary, say that (while editing Triaenonychinae) you copied content from Triaenonychini. Monster Iestyn (talk) 18:57, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Farzana Perveen
[edit]We have no publications, associated taxa, nor authority control identifiers, for Farzana Perveen - and neither does Wikidata.
What should we do in such cases? If kept, should such pages be added to a tracking category? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:35, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- I added two identifiers in Wikidata, she is indeed an entomologist, but not only. In ORCID she says she published 113 papers + severals books but I am not able to say if she is a taxon author. Christian Ferrer (talk) 16:02, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- she seems to have published several checklists and examinations of the genetic relationships of a number of taxa. Though I can find no evidence of any new taxa or re-arrangements of existing taxa to date. Possibly only vaguely a taxon author as we define it at this point. Though she seems to be maybe working towards this in the future. So to me borderline on keep. My guess is she is establishing baselines across existing species at present and may produce new descriptions later. Not sure. Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 17:58, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- I've added the page to Unresolved or Unmentioned Authorities, since it has currently no links from any taxon page or reference template. Honestly, I would also be inclined to remove the page from Category:Taxon authorities at the least, since I cannot find any evidence that she authored any taxa. Given that PeterR created the page in 2017, I think this page was most likely created for one of her Lepidoptera-related articles? Monster Iestyn (talk) 19:34, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. That looks like what I was thinking of; though I believe it should be a category. Shall we convert it? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:00, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- I've added the page to Unresolved or Unmentioned Authorities, since it has currently no links from any taxon page or reference template. Honestly, I would also be inclined to remove the page from Category:Taxon authorities at the least, since I cannot find any evidence that she authored any taxa. Given that PeterR created the page in 2017, I think this page was most likely created for one of her Lepidoptera-related articles? Monster Iestyn (talk) 19:34, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- she seems to have published several checklists and examinations of the genetic relationships of a number of taxa. Though I can find no evidence of any new taxa or re-arrangements of existing taxa to date. Possibly only vaguely a taxon author as we define it at this point. Though she seems to be maybe working towards this in the future. So to me borderline on keep. My guess is she is establishing baselines across existing species at present and may produce new descriptions later. Not sure. Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 17:58, 14 August 2024 (UTC)