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Centralized discussion See also: Village pump/Proposals   ■ Archive How do we organize categories by date (14 May 2024) Proposal to prohibit political restriction templates (5 February 2024) Should PD-CQ Roll Call be used for recent images? (5 January 2024) Technical needs survey (17 December 2023) When does PDART apply to textile works? (15 November 2023) Does this image contain "love hearts"? (17 August 2023) Overhaul of categories by period (5 December 2022) Version of Saudi flag to use (11 July 2022) Concern regarding revocability of KOGL licenses (22 December 2021) Should deleting content from your own talk page be forbidden? (11 November 2021) Revise the COM:FOP Sweden section (1 February 2021) Change technical name of LRs to license-reviewer from image-reviewer(2 November 2023) Template: View   ■ Discuss    ■ Edit   ■ Watch

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March 22

Merger of case pages under Category:Russian FOP cases/deleted (non-architectural)

Hello. I'm proposing to merge all contents (case pages) under Category:Russian FOP cases/deleted (non-architectural) to Category:Russian FOP cases/deleted. Since there is FOP in Russia for architecture, in my opinion, having a "forked" category for non-architecture is redundant. I asked the category's creator A.Savin about this at User talk:A.Savin#Category:Russian FOP cases/deleted (non-architectural)?. In his reply, "Probably meanwhile this can be merged indeed." Nevertheless, I may need the inputs of other editors/users (most especially the Russian Wikipedians) about my proposal, if they agree or oppose, before proceeding — perhaps contacting another user who has AWB rights to make seamless recategorizations (I cannot obtain AWB rights as I don't have a computer or laptop, and merely edit here via phone, albeit using desktop mode). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 13:11, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

@JWilz12345: JWB can do the job with the same permission, and without a computer. Cat-a-lot can even do it without permission.   — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 23:38, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

I have no objections but I think it is better to ask someone with the bot than editing 1.6k+ pages, even with cat-a-lot rubin16 (talk) 17:44, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

March 23

Caption challenge

This weeks caption challenge:- Commons:Silly_things#Week_Ending_(Monday_30th_March_2021) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:31, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Files from tamilvu.org pending licence review

there're quite a lot of tamil files pending review. they were uploaded by User:Info-farmer. licence review was requested by other users like User:Neyakkoo and User:TVA ARUN.

they are jamming the LR queue. i dont think they need to be reviewed because they've been quite reliably attributed and linked to their sources on tamilvu.org. therefore i suggest removing them from the LR queue. do you support or oppose?--RZuo (talk) 17:44, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

And also getting OTRS clearence. For example, File:நெஞ்சை உருக்கும் நீதிக்கதைகள்.pdf then cleaning the OCRed text by women college ofcourse the process is moving slowly Thanks for Indic wikisource team--Info-farmer (talk) 03:02, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

March 24

License plates (again?)

Hi, just saw this deletion request and I am not quite sure how to interpret it. Wouldn't this mean that everything in Category:License plates of Connecticut and all other license plates should be deleted? I have been told somewhere that a license plate with no particular design is not a copyright infringement, but would it be necessary to upload it with {{PD-textlogo|type=license plates}}? Can we add this template to existing uploads, even when the user is clearly dormant/gone? Can we save this user's four uploads? Hoping to avoid more purges. mr.choppers (talk)^-en- 20:21, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

• @Mr.choppers: This plate had a an image that was clearly well above the threshold of originality for copyright. - Jmabel ! talk 22:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

@Jmabel: what about the Connecticut plate which was deleted in the same sweep? Just text on a blue/white background. I just want to know, because there are literally thousands of pictures of plates uploaded and in use across all languages. mr.choppers (talk)^-en- 15:51, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

@Mr.choppers: if simple text on a geometrically simple blue-and-white background was deleted as a copyright violation, that sounds like a bad decision. Can you link the relevant discussion and/or deleted file? - Jmabel ! talk 23:16, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

@Jmabel: List of deleted uploads - of course, now that I am looking at the list of their uploads I am suspecting that all of these were photos Gojira91 found on the 'net. Nonetheless, they were deleted with the justification that "unless Gojira91 is an official representative of the state of Alabama, they may not claim this work as their own and relicense it." I would like to clarify what passes the threshold of originality, and perhaps there is a template we can add to those license plates that pass. Best, mr.choppers (talk)^-en- 01:03, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

@Mr.choppers: So a Connecticut plate got deleted over an issue about Alabama plates being above the threshold? That sounds sloppy, and presumably an undelete would succeed. Of course, if there were licensing issues for the photo itself, and it should have been deleted on other grounds. But I'd say that even with the slow fade from one color to another and the simple map of Connecticut, nothing on the Connecticut plate exceeds the threshold of originality. - Jmabel ! talk 15:30, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

March 25

Kazimier Lachnovič

Well, some time ago I found a file with the abusive name. I renamed it, keeping its language, the meaning, and taking the only offensive word out. The file uploader, User:Kazimier Lachnovič, opened two topics trying to get me sanctioned, Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems/Archive 91#User:Ymblanter (closed as no consensus) and Commons:Village pump/Archive/2021/02#Systematic disregard by administrators of rule violations (is Wikimedia not a multilingual project anymore?) (archived). Kazimier Lachnovič, an obviously disruptive user, was allowed for several weeks to cast aspersions and harass me by making statements which may express his own fantasies but have nothing to do with what I have ever done, thought, or intended to do. When I tried to object, he always doubled down basically insisting that he knows better. At one point, he accuse me in Nazism, which was particularly nice to hear in the context of him being Belarusian and me being partially Jewish. After the discussions were closed, he basically reverted my edits [1] and tried to harass the administrator who closed the discussion [2]. I basically could not do anything. Yesterday, he moved the file (almost) restoring the offensive word in the name calling this "Belarusian language censorship" [3]. I removed the offensive term again, and he immediately reverted my move, calling it, unsurprisingly, "renaming abusing", [4]. I again can not do anything about it, I am obviously not going to block him, and I am not going to continue move warring. In the meanwhile, I was called an "abusive Russian administrator" who had to be desysopped a long time ago but has to many "Russian friends" and can not be desysopped for this reason. In relation to these events, II have tosay the following.

• I do not expect the Commons community to do something about this.
• This is one more indication that the Commons community is completely disfunctional as far as anything beyond dealing with the clear-cut violations such as uploading of obviously copyrighted files is concerned.
• In the last several years, already after I became administrator, I was subject to serious abuse here, on Commons, three times. (Not counting minor harassment such as sending an e-mail to my professional e-mail address). First, an administrator deleted my file out of the process, and the community refused to do something about this. I waited, and the administrator was desysopped. Second, last year, there was a conflict with one administrator indefinitely blocking a checkuser. Whereas I was not part of the conflict, I at some point closed a trainwreck discussion about the incident, which made some user think that this is an appropriate reason to start harassing me, with one of them even claiming that it is my fault that the blocking administrator retired. One of them has already been desysopped. In both cases, I reduced my activity on Commons to a minimum, and both times I was somehow motivated to restore the activity, because some things were not done which should have been done. This is the third time. I have no doubt that I will wait and Kazimier Lachnovič is going to be indeffed. However, nobody is going to motivate me to help this disfunctional community for the third time. I need my admin flag, because some other projects where I work (and where harassment is not tolerated) need to interact with Commons, and I will make sure I keep the flag by performing the minimum of (absolutely uncontroversial) admin actions, but I am not planning to return to the full-scale admin activity. I will not be responding on noticeboards either.
• When the next time somebody would complain that we have too long backlogs on Commons and too few admins please remember this statement

Have a nice day.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:13, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

• • @Ymblanter: Is it possible that the word is abusive in Russian but not in Belorusian? Just for an example of something parallel, the common Yiddish word for a Jew is a slur in English, but we would certainly not object to a Yiddish-speaker using it. - Jmabel ! talk 23:21, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

• From the previous discussion, it seems to me that it was something like that: the claim is that using the term "Маскалізацыя" for "Russification" is offensive to Russians. Perhaps just accept that there was no consensus on the issue and allow the file names to stand? Are there any Russians here who are offended? --ghouston (talk) 01:57, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

• The word does not exist in Russian. When it is used in Russian, it almost always referred to an Ukrainian usage, which is beyond any doubt offensive specifically to Russians. My research shows that it is offensive in Belarusian as well, and that the uploader is well aware of this (and this is precisely why he insists on this name), but that it was not offensive historically, and possibly there is some contemporary usage today where it is not offensive. But no, indeed, I am not going to continue move warring. I am just frustrated by the fact that I was subject to verbal abuse for weeks, and then the guy just went ahead and reverted everything. Well, I will better concentrate on upload of my photoarchive. Sorry.--Ymblanter (talk) 05:27, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

is it still possible to choose a filename for a new upload?

I tried uploading a file earlier but there was no place for me to enter the file, so i had to rename the download and then upload it again. I dont know if this is being done for a reason, but it was convenient for me because often a file will not be named with a Wikipedia-friendly filename in its original source. Is there a way to upload a file where I can still choose the filename, or do I have to always rename it on my computer first? Thanks, Soap (talk) 22:52, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Also, please delete File:SPC_Outlook_March_25,_2021_1630z.jpg, as IM going to let someone else handle the uploads for files like this. Soap (talk) 22:54, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

@Soap: to mark your own recently uploaded file for speedy deletion, just tag it with {{speedydelete|recent upload, uploaded requests deletion}} or something similar and more specific as to why you want it deleted. If it's less than a week old and not in use, that should work. - Jmabel ! talk 23:25, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean by "place for me to enter the file" nor "rename the download". You don't even mention what upload tool (what web page, app, etc.) you are using. If you can be more specific, someone may be able to work out what's going on. - Jmabel ! talk 23:26, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

• @Soap: When using Special:Upload it’s trivially simple to fill up a different filename to be the one used in Commons (Destination filename:), ragardless of the filename that’s being uploaded from the local machine (Source filename:); the local filename will appear prefilling in the Commons filename input box and will be used if not edited. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 23:38, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Okay thank you, but there was no obvious way for me to know that there is an alternate method of uploading. we only link to Special:UploadWizard in the sidebar which does not allow the user to specify the filename so far as i can see. Soap (talk) 00:32, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

How to upload a file

specifically 1m16s.--RZuo (talk) 11:10, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

@Soap: I believe the "Image title" in the "Describe" stage of the Upload Wizard is what eventually becomes the filename. --bjh21 (talk) 13:00, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Alright, thank you .... I would rather it say "file name" since it's the file name but .... I guess we did what we did for a reason. I will only use the old-fashioned expert form from now on, so long as it continues to exist. Best regards, Soap (talk) 16:24, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

How is "depicts" intended to be used?

I believe I have a general loose idea of how "depicts" is intended to be used, but when I ask for clarification at Commons talk:Depicts#This continues to mystify me I am consistently ignored. Is there somewhere else I should be asking this? For the record, this is not the first time I'm raising this sort of issue, see for example Commons_talk:Structured_data/Archive_2020#Is_this_really_how_it's_supposed_to_work? It is my suspicion that there is really no consensus at all, and this major feature is being used with absolutely no discpline. - Jmabel ! talk 23:41, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

March 26

Stop deleting film locations categories without alternativesǃ

In several places a discussion has been going on about Category:Film locations by film. For reasons I still not understand or agree with, it was decided that this information has no value on Commons and should be moved to other places. At the moment people have already started to delete Film locations categories, without notifying the creator. By accident I discovered that at least two of my categories have gone. In this way hours of my reseach is being destroyed. I would suggest that whoever is of the opinion that there are better alternatives to secure the information on these pages, put their money where their mouth is and USE THEM. I would like to suggest a new (Is it new?) policy:

1. No film locations cat will be deleted unless al info therein is secured elsewhere.

2. Creators of these categories are notified in advance of deletion, with info about where the deleted info can be found.--Judithcomm (talk) 14:23, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

• There would be no problem with a gallery page showing the locations used for a particular film, but I agree that categories are not the way to do this. - Jmabel ! talk 15:33, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Tja, dann sollen die Leute, die Kats löschen, diese Galerien eben anlegen. In meinen Augen ist es Vandalismus, wenn einige hier systematisch Dinge "verbessern", indem sie eine Information, die man stundenlang erarbeitet hat, weil sie auf "die falsche Weise" eingetragen ist, rückstandsfrei entfernen, und nicht "auf die richtige Weise" eintragen, und dann von denen, die diese Arbeit schon gemacht haben erwarten, erneut stundenlang neu zu machen. Und sich dann auch noch beschweren, wenn sie dafür angemotzt werden und herausstellen, was für eine wichtige Arbeit sie hier doch (häufig mittels Skripten oder Bots) machen und dass sie einfach keine Zeit hätten, sich anzuschauen, was sie da machen. Noch dazu sind die ursprünglichen Uploader häufig garnicht mehr da, oder es war ein crosswikiupload, oder bemerken es nicht, weil durch Massenedits die beo überläuft. Oder die betroffene Datei stammt aus einem (Flickr)-Massenimport und es gibt lokal überhaupt niemand, der das Wissen hat, um die Info wiederherzustellen (außer durch Durchsuchen der Versionsgeschichte). --C.Suthorn (talk) 16:23, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
    • Categories are for defining characteristics of a subject: the occupation of a person, the architectural style of a building, the rail line that a station is on. For the vast majority of film locations, the use in film is not a defining characteristic of the location. (The exceptions, like the Exorcist steps, are locations whose only/primary notability comes from a specific use in film.) Categories on Commons are fundamentally the wrong place to be storing information about where movies were filmed, as you have been told on previous occasions, and we are under no obligation to host your research. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 16:50, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
      • If this kind of categorisation is soo wrong, why let it go on for at least twelve years before you decide to pull the plug? The Cat was already there when I first started contributing to Commons. If I had known of these objections years ago, I would not have put in so much effort in the first place. All I ask now is not to delete any info without securing it elsewhere. I do believe there is some 'obligation ' to treat your fellow Commoners with some respect.--Judithcomm (talk) 22:44, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

User Rudolph Buch has told User:Judithcomm in 2015: special:permalink/547051826#Film_locations.

and Rudolph Buch's commonsensical suggestion preceded by six years(!) mine in Commons:Categories for discussion/2021/03/Category:Film locations by film.--RZuo (talk) 10:43, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

@C.Suthorn: No, really, if you do something wrong it's not someone else's job to come in and do it right. It's nice if they do, of course, but it's not their job. - Jmabel ! talk 13:47, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

As a recent example: I photographed at the CSD in Cologne in 2019. One of the pictures shows a poster "The only meat I eat is pussy". The poster is unfortunately a bit blurred, but readable. I have tagged the file with the category "lesbian cunnilingus" because this is the poster's theme. Similar references to lesbian cunnilingus can be found at CSDs (e.g. "sorry boys i only eat pussy"). The image is therefore relevant for an article on lesbian sexuality in Wikipedia and can only be found via this categorisation (texts in images are neither found nor indexed by the MW software). Since the upload, the image has only been bot-edited and tagged by @Raymond: with SDC Cologne and Pride Parade. Until just now, no one took offence at the categorisation, until @Firefly: removed the categorisation without replacement. Nobody took offence at the spelling mistake "Kölm" instead of "Köln" (I didn't do anything myself because of this mistake, because my constant experience with renaming requests is that never all wrongly named pictures of a series are renamed, but always only one and asking the renamer doesn't help either). In what way is it a sensible action to remove every reference to lesbian cunnilingus here? I upload images here to be used, both in WM projects and via instant-commons or on external websites or even in printed works, such as this week's "Zeit Geschichte: Censored, the History of Freedom of Expression". For this to happen, however, these images must also be findable. The task of the provider "wikimedia.commons" cannot be to prevent this, but must be to promote it. I put a lot of time and effort into creating images for which there are often no free alternatives (not even on flickr, panoramio, the archives of the USA Gov or Germany Gov). This is especially true for LGBTIA images, like the one I used as an example here and the one used by Die Zeit this week. I don't think Flickr, for example, would put such cudgels between my legs. --C.Suthorn (talk) 15:16, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

@C.Suthorn: If that has something to do with film locations, I'm missing it. - Jmabel ! talk 03:54, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Removals

A large number of images were recently removed from Category:Tongyong Pinyin. The issue has been discussed at several places, with the Help Desk discussion linking most of them [5]. I would like to request a mass 'undo' of the removals by an admin- everything in Case 1, Case 2 and Case 3 is what I understand as an image legitimately included in the category. If this 'undo' action is unwarranted for some reason, I would like to argue that many of the removals are not justified on a case-by-case basis. --Geographyinitiative (talk) 17:39, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Problem in the size of the image that I not have knowledge to transform

I am creating images of a mollusk that had few images on this page. I'm trying to make images that I think are good, so I asked a friend to edit an image defect on her cell phone, and the image was turned small. I went to a very simple image editor, on the web, I increased it and the image became very big, at the time of uploading. Does anyone manage to transformed it in a proportion that is more or less like this, without very perceptible defects? Mário NET (talk) 23:13, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

The quality loss by downscaling (by your friend) cannot be entirely undone by upscaling the image. Neither downscaling nor upscaling is a good idea, unless this is absolutely required. I hope that you have retained the original photograph. I personally use a free software editor (GIMP) for cropping images, rarely also for some other transformation such as rotation or lighting correction. I also downscale some images, but for sites other than Wikimedia Commons that do not allow or do not wish to obtain larger images. --Robert Flogaus-Faust (talk) 11:40, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

I kept the original photo and I'm going to upload it. Thanks. Mário NET (talk) 19:39, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

March 27

British Library shop

Is it acceptable for file descriptions to contain hotlinks to the British Library shop to buy higher res copies? For example here, which it is linked via a "bit.ly" shortener to this page. If so, can any uploader/source add their advertisement for linked services? Davidships (talk) 01:27, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

This was simply inadvertently imported with the whole description when copying the image from Flickr. IMO, the line containing the shop-link should be removed, as a sort of advertisement. As the source-link to Flickr remains, anybody interested in obtaining such high-res copies, will find the shop-link on the Flickr-page. --Túrelio (talk) 09:18, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

• And yet en:WP turns ISBN links into a page that links to Amazon.

Is there any clear policy statement from WMF on such aspects? Andy Dingley (talk) 15:34, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Fail

Hi, any suggestion? https://ibb.co/SyMvr3L

Becausue this is horrible... --Luhačovice 2021 (talk) 08:28, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

• @Luhačovice 2021: All I see here is a link to a site about which I know nothing, and which says that servers are under maintenance and the page is unavailable. Care to expand on that, and in particular about what is "horrible" about it? - Jmabel ! talk 13:51, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

@Jmabel: This is particularly related to the request at Czech Wikipedia Helpdesk ([6]). It seems that this user has longer problems with the file uploads, the linked screenshot is the message he gets. — Draceane ^talk_contrib. 14:00, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Yes, i getting this error (https://ibb.co/SyMvr3L) very offten, so is a big problem to me to upload file... --Luhačovice 2021 (talk) 14:49, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

• Is this a problem with the core servers, or some more localised edge servers? I (in the UK) often get a server warning from Florida, but these never last long. So could this instead be caused by edge servers (i.e. the international caching infrastucture) closer to Czechia? If it's not English language, it then being a low priority, wouldn't be the first time with WMF. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:08, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

8( your help was "userfull", lol --Luhačovice 2021 (talk) 03:51, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

ART+sport+FEMINISM, in the year with (out) OLYMPICS

Are you interested in Sport? Olympics? Its failures and success? Consider to support and join creative and critical work on ART+sport+FEMINISM https://w.wiki/38f6 (also get in touch if you have interesting content donations/refs.) -- Zblace (talk) 09:34, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

March 28

Fonts license's template

The following discussion is closed, and will be archived soon.

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Hello all !
Do we have a template to say that raster image of well established (old enough to be Public Domain) writings are under open license (PD) ? I'am working with a font which clearly copied its shapes form classic, old wood blocks : 400 to 200 years olds styles. The font file was created in early 2000s and is under a kind of CC-ND-NC. I repeatedly dived into font licenses and copyrights for a decade now. It's quite clear by now that while the font files and vector data are copyrigthed, the shaped (copied from old styles) are not. I plan to upload raster images or characters so the vector data is NOT published. I guess we have a template for such cases, but I was unable to put my hands on it. Any idea how I could find it ? Yug (talk) 17:11, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

{{PD-font}}? --HyperGaruda (talk) 17:54, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

♥! Perfect ! Thank you HyperGaruda Yug (talk) 18:50, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

March 29

Dead animals

Nice? [CONTENT WARNING: photograph of crushed dead cat with guts out and skull crushed]
Adding Category:Dead sheep (especially while we have Category:Sheep products) to Category:Mutton and to Category:Lamb meat is difficult to understand, for me. Category:Sheep slaughtering is also a wrong subcat of Category:Dead sheep, as dead sheep are not slaughtered, they have already been killed. Whatever, what I am trying to reach at is: This categorization was bothering me since some time. The same "meat categories" are also subcats of "Category:Sheep". I did not even feel like correcting the cat-a-lot mistakes in there. A short while ago I saw that Category:Dead turkeys was added to Category:Turkey meat and decided to open this discussion without losing more time. People may be vegetarian, or vegan, we non-vegetarians do understand and respect them. However, this should not come here as a "categorization POV". Yes, we eat animal meat, we also eat some live "animals" (like certain seafood, I guess they are also animals) but we also eat vegetables and have never thought of adding "Category:Dead spinach" to Category:Spinach-based food. Please. Let us keep "dead animals" out of "cuisine" cats. Thanks. --E4024 (talk) 00:52, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Was not ready for that ! Yug (talk) 10:55, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

I think these are corpses, cadavers, not food parts and could be re-tagged accordingly. Yug (talk) 10:56, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

JS data into table : MediaWiki module ? Data page ? Else ?

Hello all, I grabbed the data of 2 heavy tables from :en:wp and :zh:wp, converted it into json format, merged them, and generate a new larger table... all on JSfiddle. The code is easy and all. But it doesn't make sense to create code hosted outside of Wikimedia to generate wikicode. Is there an other way to generate wikitable from (json) data on wikimedia sites ? Some modules ? Should I store this data somewhere here on Commons ? Yug (talk) 10:55, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

March 30

Geurt-Jaap

test van GJE — Preceding unsigned comment added by Testgje (talk • contribs) 12:30, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

@Testgje: Test passed. Hi, and welcome.   — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 12:45, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Special:MediaSearch landing for anonymous/logged-out users on Thursday, 1 April

Greetings,

Following up on my post from last month announcing the intention to shift default landing pages for search (Village Pump post, Media Search talk page post, Commons mailing list, Wikimedia diff blog), Special:MediaSearch will become the default search landing page for anonymous and logged-out users on Thursday, ! April. The change for logged-in users will take place in approximately one month. Anonymous and logged-out users will still have access to Special:Search via link in the Media Search interface. When released to logged-in users, contributors will have access to both the link in the interface as well as a preference to keep Special:Search as the default landing page if that's their choice.

Thanks for your time, please let the development team know of any troubles you may encounter using the software. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 15:05, 30 March 2021 (UTC)