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As User:AtomicGagou has shown a persistant unreasonableness in both DR discussions, I recommend a block of noticeable length, but I will not block her by myself, as I have also been a (minor) target of her aggression. --[[User:Túrelio|Túrelio]] ([[User talk:Túrelio|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 22:47, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
As User:AtomicGagou has shown a persistant unreasonableness in both DR discussions, I recommend a block of noticeable length, but I will not block her by myself, as I have also been a (minor) target of her aggression. --[[User:Túrelio|Túrelio]] ([[User talk:Túrelio|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 22:47, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
:{{Done|Blocked}} for 2 weeks. [[User talk:INeverCry|<span style="text-shadow:gray 3px 3px 2px;"><font face="AR Cena" color="black"><b>INeverCry</b></font></span>]] 23:27, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
:{{Done|Blocked}} for 2 weeks. [[User talk:INeverCry|<span style="text-shadow:gray 3px 3px 2px;"><font face="AR Cena" color="black"><b>INeverCry</b></font></span>]] 23:27, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

== Sabretoothbeast ==

{{user|Sabretoothbeast}} has recently uploaded a dozen or so images whose source is listed as 'www.google.com' under obviously false public domain flags. Could an admin please delete these images and warn/block Sabretoothbeast as appropriate. Thanks, [[User:Nick-D|Nick-D]] ([[User talk:Nick-D|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 12:06, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

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User:Fry1989

En: This user is just generally intolerable. He calls me obviously (for no apparent reason, here and above #User:Bossange) as a troll in a version-history.[1] Not a week goes by now where no serious conflicts with him here is on COM: AN prevail. He has often shown in the past (here and elsewhere, he was already blocked infinitive), and shows that he is only willing limited improvement. His excuse is only always that he it is an invaluable member here on Commons.[2](not the time to prove more) There are umpteen files from him, where he, after his own taste removes strokes/outlines called "unnecessary", reverted against references without reason! However, I ask for a decision on concrete file. Besides, my last reporting was closed by enem regular user with false reasoning.[3] -- ΠЄΡΉΛΙΟ 18:26, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As opposed to the personal attacked you've engaged in against me the last month or two? In fact, it's difficult to find anything you've said on Commons in reference to me that doesn't contain some sort of thinly-veiled personal attack. And where did I ever say I'm an invaluable member here? You sure do enjoy putting words in my mouth. You call me a troll, I call you a troll, you revert me on images, I revert you......back and forth, back and forth. I've had it. I want an interaction ban with you because you are impossible to work with. I don't ever want to see you again, and hopefully it's mutual. For outsiders, this is obviously a situation of two users who will never get along, please support my request for an interaction ban between Perhelion and myself. Fry1989 eh? 18:39, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I would think that looking at the interactions between these two, and especially Perhelion's objectives, an IB is a good idea. Penyulap 02:20, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest a 1 month trial voluntary interaction ban, agreed to by both Perhelion and Fry1989. If it fails, stricter interaction ban could be looked into by the community but should looked into as a last resort, not the first. Bidgee (talk) 03:10, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I never put words in your mouth! I never changed the (informal) content of other posts! Where are your links???
  • Why you mark always your discussion-posts or remove other posts as/with minor? It's not the stylish place: When not to mark an edit as a minor edit (not to say that's antisocial)
  • IB: Yes run away from the truth egomaniac: Where is the limit for your IB's? If it's helpful ok, but before I want only a substantive decision to the few following file-reverts (he always knows all original government-references)
  1. File:Coat of Arms of the First Slovak Republic.svg (ref on info) border completely removed
  2. File:Coat of arms of Brazil.svg border removed (as reported here his arguments are hypocritical lied/nonsense) ref is fully vector gov.br (unfortunately I had not enough time to respond)
  3. File:Coat of Brasil.png the same original pixel-version overwritten with his own SVG-version (pixel-ref gov.br)
  4. File:P05 CZ.svg (ref on info, vector source) border changed to black (as reported here)
  • "I gotta say Fry, after watching you for the last couple days... you are the cause of most of your problems. – JBarta (talk) 21:26, 4 April 2013 (UTC)"[ref]
-- ΠЄΡΉΛΙΟ 11:02, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Perhelion, you absolutely put words in my mouth. You claim/inferred that I said I'm "the law", and that I'm an "invaluable member", things I have never said. Show us all where I have said these things!
  • You follow me around and revert me on images for no reason. I was specifically asked by an admin to look into File:Bandeira do Espírito Santo.svg and it was being discussed on my talk page. I changed the image saying "per talk", meaning it was being discussed on my talk page. You reverted me just because I didn't post my source in my edit sumamry, saying "not given a ref". I reverted you telling you that it was being discussed on my talk page and you could see the refs there, and instead of joining the discussion, you just reverted me again.
  • You attack me at every turn. You are in fact on notice for personally attacking me for no reason. I nominated an image for deletion, and just because you didn't like my reasoning for nominating it, you call me "completely incompetent". You called me it twice on that page, when it had nothing to do with the DR itself. That was completely out of left field and uncalled for.
  • You lie about me. Want an example of your extremely transparent lies? Let's look at File:Coat of Brasil.png. You claim I overwrote it, but Tonyjeff is the one who actually overwrote it back on November 7, 2010, copying the SVG over onto the PNG. I simply duplicated that overwrite on January 27, 2012 when the SVG was again changed. So while yes, strictly speaking I did over-write the file, my over-writing it was not your problem, you just don't like me touching things. That's made clear by the fact that you were SO incensed by my overwrite of the image, that you didn't revert to it's original state but back to Tonyjeff's overwrite, and I don't see you complaining about when he did it. Your lies and motives about that file is so obvious it's pathetic. In fact, you already tried to pass this off once before, and I called you out on it back then, but you're still attempting to use it.
I don't want anything to do with you anymore. I want this interaction ban and I will pursue it for as long as it takes. Fry1989 eh? 18:26, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Only a blind person would not be able to see how transparent Perhelion's lies and motives are. I'm not going away until I get an IB. Fry1989 eh? 19:59, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I hope no admin is so blind to engage in this totally pathetic rhetoric ramblings (The Art of Being Right, Tu quoque ). Sorry, if I had another understanding of "put words in my mouth" (normally that implied that I mean that someone told that) Now I hope this is a good example of how someone (egomaniac) here deals with a normal (more energetic) representatives only for the truth. Can one answer really more ridiculous with provocative exaggerations?
  • (circumstantial ad hominem) This topic is more discussed here: #User:Bossange
  • (bias ad hominem, circumstantial ad hominem) You are in fact the first and only person in many years (since 2004 with other acc) here in Wikipedia and Commons for what I become ever an personal AN.eh?
  • (abusive ad hominem, Tu quoque)
  • (mutatio controversiae) In fact: You are completely dodged my questions with irrelevant accusations!!!
  • You use pettifogging (Rabulistik) pathetic rhetoric as a substitute for real arguments: (Eristic: You use always obviously most of: argumentum ad hominem: abusive ad hominem, bias ad hominem, circumstantial ad hominem, Tu quoque)
The same lie will be not true, the more it is repeated, but the more it is believed.
I'm not a egomanic liar or idiot, I'm normally against an IB. -- ΠЄΡΉΛΙΟ 10:40, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You are a liar, atleast about your motives if not the strict facts. If you were truly so bothered by my overwrite of File:Coat of Brasil.png, you would not have reverted back to another overwrite by Tonyjeff, you would have reverted back to the file's original state. That one course of action by itself is a prime example of your hypocrisy. But then you lie about other things, you engage in thinly-veiled personal attacks in almost everything you every say about me, you even directly attack me for no reason. Why did you have to call me "completely incompetent" in that DR twice? You actually agreed that the file should be deleted because you said it's licensing was false, but you just had to add in that little jab at me anyways. Then, when you were called out on it, you doubled down and called me incompetent again and added another attack calling me anti-social. You are a bully, and I wont put up with you any more. Quite frankly whether you're in favour of IBs or not is irrelevant to me, show me where it says an IB has to be mutually requested between two users. I want one, I will push through this page until I get it. I will not allow you to bully me any longer. Fry1989 eh? 18:15, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You're doing more and more ridiculous, the facts speak, not your childish personal attack drivel. The version from Tonyjeff is from gov.br has he said (it seems a render copy of the vector source and nearly identical to the reference shown above and not the other files.)!
As so often said your exaggerations are excessive and ridiculous. It's like a troll, you can not talk to him. On the contrary, I had apologized for the words ("incompetent discernment") ... -- ΠЄΡΉΛΙΟ 09:20, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Your entire premise for reverting me on that PNG is because I overwrote it with a copy of the SVG. If you truly had such a problem with people overwriting images, you would not have reverted to Tonyjeff's overwrite, you would have reverted to the file's original state. That you are now making excuses for your hypocrisy shows exactly why I need this IB. You don't have any principles, you just target me because I do things differently here, and it annoys you. You don't like me touching things, and will make any excuse to interfere. Fry1989 eh? 19:00, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Still waiting, not going away. Fry1989 eh? 15:55, 21 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm tired to answer your... You try only to pull me and my intentions in the dirt, as I have clearly remarked above. Then let speak more simple facts. It is surely clear that an official raster-version and a vector-version are near identical! I've principles (unlike you?)!: Overwrite with SVG-rendering (which is an proposed Commons guideline, policy.) Here some other examples from me: Albrecht Dürer - Monogramm.png,Wappen von Rees.png,Wappen Landkreis Spree-Neisse.png,Coat of Arms of Kirovohrad Oblast.svg,Kreiswappen des Kreises Lippe.png,Wappen lk suew.png
-- ΠЄΡΉΛΙΟ 10:34, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I know you think you're so clever and that you "got me" by digging up a quote, but you failed to properly read what I said and it's context. You don't have anything on me. I have alot on you though. I want this IB, and I WILL get it. I will open as many AN/Us as I have to, I will harass as many admins as I have to. Are you people listening? I don't want anything more to do with Perhelion. His bullying and hypocrisy and lies have become intolerable. Fry1989 eh? 18:43, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Still here. Fry1989 eh? 15:15, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Before: Where I can get a third opinion for a file decision? -- ΠЄΡΉΛΙΟ 17:29, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You don't get one, that would trivialize the point of an IB if you could just ask for a 3O every time I change something and you don't like it. Such behaviour is why I want this IB in the first place (along with unsolicited personal attacks). If you have a serious concern with an edit I have made, I'll agree that you (and I in return) can raise it as a discussion on AN, which would be exempt from IB restrictions. Fry1989 eh? 17:47, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Still here. Fry1989 eh? 19:54, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Still here. Fry1989 eh? 16:47, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Still here. Fry1989 eh? 18:15, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ok IB. Then I go... -- ΠЄΡΉΛΙΟ 20:07, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
As people can see, I will drag this out as long as I have to, so perhaps it is prudent not to ignore me. The IB would not be permanent, and as stated above there would still be dispute resolution available if we find eachother's edits problematic, however this would avoid the constant run-ins Perhelion and I have, and it would save me from his unsolicited personal attacks whenever he doesn't like something. Fry1989 eh? 23:29, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Still here. Fry1989 eh? 19:11, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I see the talk page for File:Coat of Arms of the First Slovak Republic.svg is still a redlink. Given that there was a shitload of reverting, and no discussion, we don't know which version is correct. In fact, I would garner a guess and say that most don't care; you should be uploading both versions and let editors on other projects decide which one they will use. *FACEPALM* Anyway, here's the proposal. Both of you go away and start turning redlinks into bluelinks, and take this ridiculousness elsewhere. russavia (talk) 03:21, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Foroa (talk · contributions · Move log · block log · uploads · Abuse filter log

He started an edit war for instance here/here and here/here, deleting the names he thinks were wrong multiple times, without leaving a comment or a category redirect. I never wanted to end in an edit war, so I wrote him as far as I noticed his deletions, expecting an explanation of what was happening (actually in the second case I was definitely wrong, but didn't know). From a message to his talk all I got back was a rude threaten.

As many other users (see his talk) I gently asked to leave a category redirect when he moves a category name, since I just came from a wikipedia's Commonscat link and found a strange red link, here. His answer was just deleting the redirect I just created again (15:27, 27 apr 2013).

I also asked if he can reply to me to my user talk, as anyone, he just replied ironically.

I have a very light knowledge of Commons procedures (probably this is not the proper place to report a problem with an admin), I am mostly an uploader, but his arrogance and lack of cooperation is starting to be annoying, and I think it is not compatible with the admin flag. His cancellations of cat can be dangerous as we are missing a lot of link entering from the wikipedias version (with Commonscat and similar). I am a Commons user from a long time, so I can find the new names quite easily, but when I try to leave a redirect to less familiar users, I am not expecting to get it deleted soon without any reason. His pretens of "Unusability of the system" was just ridiculous. --Sailko (talk) 16:21, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I do think that Foroa's approach to naming categories is more in line with the international nature of Commons. The only thing that confuses me is that he didn't want to temporarily put a redirect. But I think that's a minor issue. In this case I feel that the best thing would actually be for you to add " (Florence)" to the names of categories of streets and other generic objects. Sinnamon Girl (talk) 17:44, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The issue is not the name of categories, the issue is a rude admin who doesn't explain what he does, starts kind of edit war and ignores on purpouse legitimate requests. --Sailko (talk) 21:53, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sailko, rudeness is a basic property of most admins here. JKadavoor Jee 04:39, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I will probably sound "rude" then. But Foroa did explain, I had no knowledge of the situation, and I read the links that you have yourself posted and nothing else, and understood the situation quite clearly. Foroa was direct, but that's not the same thing as being "rude". Foroa provided enough information to understand the situation. Maybe it was possible to be nicer to you, but that is not a responsibility of anybody. Sinnamon Girl (talk) 04:46, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Foroa hasn't demonstrated any real need to delete these redirects. Commons won't break if it has 10 billion redirects and this isn't going to be about anything other than what this is about, so why delete it? Especially bearing in mind that links to that category from other Wikimedia projects, and outside Wikimedia, will break without it.
If that cat gets moved (and redirected) again at a future date, which probably won't happen, then there will a double redirect. That's unfortunate, but can be detected/correct by bot.
If Foroa hadn't deleted the redirects, this thread wouldn't have arisen...--Nilfanion (talk) 07:55, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Reply to users Sailko complaint. Note that I was intended to give a more extensive reply on requesters use page (one of the few users that want to discuss things in a ping pong user talk page, so that other people have problems following it). It is clear that Sailko forgets the basic naming rule in Commons, so I need some time to make a compact overview of his misconceptions.
The most important category naming rule in commons Commons:Categories states: The category name would be enough to guess the subject, but some extra text can be useful to precisely define it. Obviously, many categories in Category:Streets in Florence don't comply with that, and for example Via dell'Osservatorio‎, Via Strozzi, Via Sant'Antonino and many others don't comply with that.
You seem to handle your personal rule that a category name should be as short as possible, leaving the others with the conflicts. While most categorisers in Italy, which I consider one of the best categorisation teams of the Commons world, understand that and apply a systematic naming and disambiguation as it is much more efficient in the long run, avoids conflicts and moves, you regularly remove their disambiguations without any form of warning as at that time, there is no conflict at Commons yet. --Foroa (talk) 19:15, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If i may say, she (?) is making much mistakes because she doesn't discusses her vieuws, most of the time she is always wrong and ruins work of others. can someone guide her? Carolus (talk) 17:22, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, seems you have quite a conflict of interest here, considering your disagreement with Foroa (User_talk:Foroa#WARNING) and your rather personally attacking posting[4]. A disagreement does not necessarily mean that the other has made a mistake. Of course, anybody, including admins, make mistakes every now and then. But to claim that Foroa is "always wrong" is absurd. In regard to categorization he is one of the most experienced editors. --Túrelio (talk) 17:54, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
IMHO Foroa is abusing his admin privileges! Foroa blocked Carolus although Foroa participated in the same edit war! IMHO it's not ok to block someone you disaggree with when you fail to bring arguments! Carolus should be unblocked immediately to be able to defend himself! a×pdeHello! 18:47, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. The edit war we can see here is actually a contentual conflict, where Foroa used admin privileges against her opponent. Let me also say that I didn't want to read me into several previous complaints against this admin on COM:ANU in the last few months; for myself, however, I had negative experiences with this admin as well, when she misused her rollback button against me after I tried to remove obvious nonsense added by her to a category. So, I wonder if we really should tolerate her arrogancy any longer. Let me also say that I appreciate Foroa's efforts on categorization, but for the work with Cat-a-lot/HotCat one doesn't need admin tools, and, as you may guess, I don't believe that the user shows enough tact in using same. --A.Savin 19:28, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Don't know whether it's the best place to discuss this, but I created Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/Blocks and protections#check possible admin abuse by user:foroa (block of user:carolus). I'm biased myself that's why I won't decide on this either. a×pdeHello! 19:38, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I made a short block as a preserving measure. Can I ask that a Dutch speaking administrator evaluates the bad faith, rudeness and totally irrational behaviour of Carolus, which made in my judgment the short block justified. --Foroa (talk) 19:20, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I am influenced by italian wikipedia rules, where you put the parentesis with city names only at the last chance, and I agree sometimes I named incorrectly some commons categories (for instance I did not revert Category:Piazza d'Azeglio (Florence), I admitted this since my first edit here). BTW, just to let you know, the categorization system of Italian cats has been decided by a very low number of users (mostly by one only, Giovanni dall'Orto) and "not" widely agreed, since it is also different from the other european categories system. For instance in Holland they have category:Van Gogh Museum (not category:Van Gogh Museum (Amsterdam)) and in Italy we must have silly Category:Pinacoteca di Brera (Milan)... I could make many more examples. "Ping pong" is also how I discuss usually with 99% of users in all the wikimedia projects I edit for. If somebody wanted to keep all replies to his page he has to leave a short message on the other user's discussion page, or he would never notice he has a new message to read ([http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sailko&diff=29750585&oldid=29617771 example).
Anyway, to go back to the TOPIC, the reason I started this discussion, is because I felt Foroa has a very unpleasant attitude to the privileges his status of admin include: he moves up and down category names, he can use bots, he can use Hotcat for subactegories (normal users can't), without feeling the need to give any explication to the users (even if he reverts for the third time, exactly like in an Edit war), he deletes categories and redirects just because he can and he doesn't care other needs, he gives rude messages to his talk page (or wherever he wants) just because he does a lot of job here, and he feels he's the ruler of everything. Get a break please! --Sailko (talk) 14:56, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Less chance that you get help from other admins here; better you post at Stewards' noticeboard. JKadavoor Jee 15:39, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I must admit that I reacted sharper than I usually do, probably because of your several attempts in the past to remove disambiguation terms. Statements like Even if it is false that the churches category names were renamed after my fault: I just gave up moving back Santa Maria del Fiore (Florence), even if no other churches in the world have such name while this shows clearly that there are at least 3 other churches with that name, along with several parishes and schools. While you corrected quickly Category:Via Romana, it is not correct because there are already 4 different Via Romana categories on Commons, and may more to come... As I stated, your Italian colleagues disambiguate systematically because it is just simpler and more efficient to have a uniform naming system, than to have to search if the name is unique and waste time with renaming. After all, 97 % of the shorter names names reveal to be not unique, and frankly, I doubt that I can make an appointment or send a letter to someone in the unique "Via de' Benci" without mentioning Firenze.
You seemed irritated because of the fact that I did not answer on your user page, which you seem to consider the default. Well it is not the case, some moment, there has even be a proposal to forbid this ping pong communication on Commons. Anyway, my way of responding is on the top of my user page and if you edit my user page, there is a banner that clearly states so.
And yes, maybe I was too rude to the taste of some people. But I have work to do as I move around 10000 categories per year, so I try to cut discussions short. Obviously, I felt irritated for what I felt as lack of community sense, you have taken it too heavily, but anyway, I apologize for that. --Foroa (talk) 18:56, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think this reply is satisfying, since the main complaint by Sailko is lack of explanations. JKadavoor Jee 06:58, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
First i would like to know if Foroa is a man or a woman? Can you please tell Foroa?Carolus (talk) 11:37, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I thank for explanation. If Foroa won't cancel anymore possible cat redirects I'll be fine (he/she can cancel the wrong ones, ok). I am also quite irritable for too much job I want to do on commons, since the beginning of 2013 only I already uploaded more than 6.000+ images, it's more than 50 a day, every day. So I like shortcuts, as everyone, in my perspective. I will be more careful selecting category names and will gradually move to disambiguated names where needed... consider some names where made in 2006, 2007, 2008... things do change in years! --Sailko (talk) 11:28, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think this discussion can be closed as "solved". JKadavoor Jee 05:04, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple copyvio - The jiz

The jiz (talk · contribs) has uploaded multiple copyvio images. Another similarly-named user on en.wikipedia Jizjos (talk · contribs) also seems to be linked although I can't find any images uploaded by that user. --Biker Biker (talk) 14:55, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I could not find any deleted contributions for Jizjos on en.wikipedia, so no images were ever uploaded on that project. However, he was blocked as a vandalism only account. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 07:29, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]


I came across this user earlier today on Wikidata, where they were changing labels, apparently for fun. I warned them, to no avail, and had to block them for 24 hours. Then they started to edit their talk page on Wikidata, adding pictures, which they uploaded here, apparently also for fun. Note that they requested one file to be moved, also fo fun, and to my utmost surprise, the file was moved, so that I can not move it back (please do). This activity here should be somehow stopped. On Wikidata, the user never responded.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:06, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have done this on this occasion mate. But in future, would you like to take care of it yourself?!??!? russavia (talk) 18:20, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. We had some conversation about it earlier, just to repeat, I need some time to sort out how I manage my time with advanced permissions on three projects I got in three months period. If I manage to keep it under control, may be sometime in the fall.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:30, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Reincarnated as User:Distrikkarubaga, uploaded the same file (did not yet request the move).--Ymblanter (talk) 21:32, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done Uploads have been deleted and both accounts blocked. --A.Savin 21:58, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you.--Ymblanter (talk) 22:01, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have had discussions with this relatively new user over the use of categories, particularly in Scotland; s/he recently added a great deal of material to Category:Former counties of Scotland which I thought belonged more properly on its talk page, if anywhere, so I removed it, with reasons, and started a discussion on that Talk page. He has now undone my edits, without comment, (http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Former_counties_of_Scotland&curid=20476090&diff=95532792&oldid=95526422 here] and I am not sure where to go next. I do not propose to edit war about this. Thanks Rodhullandemu (talk) 13:07, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to be angry that the name of the category contains the word "former". I think it's only named that way to avoid confusion with the current "counties of Scotland", Category:Council areas of Scotland. I'm not sure the user knows where they are... the offence caused by "WIKI" would appear to be caused by Commons, as the relevant en.wiki articles are w:Shires of Scotland and w:Council areas of Scotland –⁠moogsi (blah) 13:28, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with your assessment, but I don't believe Commons is intended to host that sort of discussion, and if we must, it should be on the Talk page. Rodhullandemu (talk) 20:32, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

User:AtomicGagou and bogus DR

After performing a Google-images search (negative) for both the nominated and the uncropped native image, I have now early-closed Commons:Deletion requests/File:King Willem-Alexander, Queen Maxima and their daughters 2013.jpg (and related 3 DRs) as it is clearly an abusive DR, filed by AtomicGagou (talk · contribs) based on bogus "evidence", which has unanimously found to be without merit as is evident from the DR discussion. The nominated image had initially been uploaded from Flickr by User:CrazyPhunk. However, the Flickr-photographer became aware of the request and was found to be User:Floris2132 (on Commons since 2010). In order to convince her of his authorship, User:Floris2132 even uploaded the uncropped native version directly to Commons[6], to which AtomicGagou's only answer to file it also for deletion.[7] Of course she also filed DRs for the related crops File:Catharina-Amalia.jpg, File:Princess Alexia.jpg and File:Princess Ariane.jpg.
To me it's obvious that AtomicGagou filed this DR as a sort of revenge after her own upload of a Dutch princess' image (File:Prinses Catharina-Amalia.jpg), taken from the RVD-website, which expressedly allows only non-commercial use[8], had been deleted twice as she had re-uploaded it after deletion. As is evident from the DR discussion, AtomicGagou simply wasn't willing to accept our Licensing-policy and even announced to upload the image a third time.

In addition to filing these bogus DRs, AtomicGagou displayed an incredible amount of aggressive and disruptive behaviour, I hadn't observed as of yet. For example (not exhaustive):

  • She twice changed the IP# in IP comments to a username and thereby associated IP with username (a.k.a. outing): [9],[10]
  • She did repeatedly manipulate one commenting IP's number so that it appeared to come from a regular user, even after she was told[11] that it wasn't his edit: [12],[13]
  • She repeatedly removed other user's comments from the discussion: [14],[15]
  • She displayed an overly arrogant attitude towards other commenters: [16],[17]
  • In addition to the nomination she added overall 5 bolded DELETION "votes" to the DR discussion.[18]
  • It seems that she even removed the nominated image(s) from the pages on other wikis where they were in use.[19]
  • When I had tagged her re-upload of File:Prinses Catharina-Amalia.jpg for no-permission (before becoming aware of the earlier DR) and put the default notification on her talkpage, which was my first contact with this user, she complained about "harassment and pollution of my page"[20] and even put her no-permission-message on my talkpage[21].

As User:AtomicGagou has shown a persistant unreasonableness in both DR discussions, I recommend a block of noticeable length, but I will not block her by myself, as I have also been a (minor) target of her aggression. --Túrelio (talk) 22:47, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Blocked for 2 weeks. INeverCry 23:27, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sabretoothbeast

Sabretoothbeast (talk · contribs) has recently uploaded a dozen or so images whose source is listed as 'www.google.com' under obviously false public domain flags. Could an admin please delete these images and warn/block Sabretoothbeast as appropriate. Thanks, Nick-D (talk) 12:06, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]