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::@Fastily: As you edited in the meantime, are you going to ignore that question (no, Canoe1967 did not answer them all)?
::@Fastily: As you edited in the meantime, are you going to ignore that question (no, Canoe1967 did not answer them all)?
::@Canoe1967: Can't really see the consensus in this DR, there was only one explicit keep and that came from you. --[[User:Isderion|Isderion]] ([[User talk:Isderion|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 11:40, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
::@Canoe1967: Can't really see the consensus in this DR, there was only one explicit keep and that came from you. --[[User:Isderion|Isderion]] ([[User talk:Isderion|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 11:40, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
:::There is no policy violation with the template so there shouldn't be consensus to delete it. If someone created 'Template:Kiddy Porn' or 'Template:Quebec signs in English only' then they would not violate policy either. Files that have the template may be illegal in some areas but not the templates themselves.--[[User:Canoe1967|Canoe1967]] ([[User talk:Canoe1967|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:59, 23 July 2013 (UTC)


== Deleted video [[:File:Allan Warren intro.webm]] ==
== Deleted video [[:File:Allan Warren intro.webm]] ==

Revision as of 19:59, 23 July 2013

Kazaneer files

Dear wikiadmin-watcher. Please, read [1] 2 3 [2] my 4 and more arguments against a undoubtful copyvio claims with mix and confuse a copyright of images and a copyright of objects by some nominators and restore deleted by you my files that mass selected for deletion by bot-machine without consideration of each. And please no delete more. If you suddenly no agree to my arguments, please restore files in ruwiki.Kazaneer (talk) 23:23, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You obviously have a fundamental misunderstanding of multiple Commons policies. I suggest you carefully and thoroughly read COM:DW, COM:FU, and COM:FOP#Russia before making unintelligent and foolhardy arguments -FASTILY 00:51, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hello! I've looked over the files been deleted and I do agree that they contradict Commons policies: I will just reupload some of them to local wiki as fair use. But at the same time I'd like to ask you about files like File:Kazan-aquatics-palace-equipment.jpg - I don't think that FOP is applicable here as some architect components seen here could be treated as "de minimis". Do you have objections to undeletion of such files? If you don't, I'll take care of them rubin16 (talk) 16:12, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, that's reasonable. Feel free. -FASTILY 20:55, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Slocan City pic

Gee, that was fast......I don't suppose you noticed that it was part of an already licensed image in the Commons? File:Central_British_Columbia_Series_13_(HS85-10-38108).jpg??? (it was the upper right corner of this montage). Instead of hitting the delete button and sending a bot to tell me I can upload it again so long as I cross the t's and dot the i's in the license, why didn't you do that yourself? Too much work relative to going "delete". I've seen this before; a version of an already-licensed/public domain image speedy-deleted by somebody who knows what the license has to be, but doesn't bother doing anything other than deleting it. WTF??Skookum1 (talk) 04:38, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just fixed that link. I really don't get it. I said straight out on the license that it's a crop of an extant Commons image. Instead of saying the license isn't correct without even explaining how and deleting it, you could have at least explained WHY the license isn't correct. All incredibly arcane and not very user-friendly. Is it because I don't know who the photographer was? That didn't stop the montage from being uploaded now, did it?Skookum1 (talk) 04:38, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to assume you're referring to File:Central British Columbia Series 13 (HS85-10-38108) SlocanCity.jpg. The deleted file history indicates that no license tag was ever placed on the file description page. It's your job as the uploader to get things right at upload time. We deal with over 10-20k in new uploads per day, so you needn't expect anyone to clean up after you when you make a mess out of your uploads -FASTILY 06:26, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, so I note in my upload that it's from an already-extant image in the Commons and say in my edit or whatever that I don't know the proper license, could someone please add it, and all you can do is be snotty about how overworked you are and just delete the damned thing? Nice WP:BITE pal.Skookum1 (talk) 04:28, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Your arrogant, overbearing sense of entitlement is most appalling. Nobody here is your personal maid. Go fuck yourself -FASTILY 04:57, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Seems to me you're the one who's arrogant buddy, and totally insecure both on your page and here. I asked for help with the licensing when I uploaded that image, because it was from an extant Commons public domain image, and all you could do was delete it then pick your nose and fling some at me. I guess WP:CIVIL is something you're exempt from, I could say a lot more colourful things back than just "fuck you too".Skookum1 (talk) 02:52, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please retrieve one of the photos you have recently deleted? To explain, the image was extracted from the one (see 30px) for which we do have a permission. Tweny13 (talk) 10:18, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I see permission was just received -FASTILY 20:55, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Maps

Greetings Fastily,

You've kept the Map of Italy in 1328 Commons:Deletion requests/File:Italy1328.svg with the advice to fix it instead. I respect that decision. In the meanwhile, I've created a simplified but accurate map of Italy in 1300, because I lack data from 1328. (File:Map of Italy in 1300 (simplified)-NL.svg) Does this count as a replacement for the map of 1328? Sir Iain (talk) 11:11, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Looks great! Thanks for doing that. I'll try to do some replacements in the meantime. -FASTILY 20:55, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! I'll upload an English translation soon. And thank you for deleting the old one! Sir Iain (talk) 21:59, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted photo that had permissions

Fastily, you deleted a photo for Max Oelshlaeger that did have permissions. The letter was forwarded to OTRS months ago.

Could you provide a bit more information? What photo? When was it deleted? Do you have an OTRS ticket number? -mattbuck (Talk) 16:43, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ticket#2013061010006743

Evidently it was just done. Now I see another photo was deleted. I didn't get a notice even though I though I had them tagged to watch. However, the permissions were sent in months ago, acknowledged, and the permissions rider removed from the photos. It has been months. Now all of a sudden someone comes along and says hey, not good enough permissions, and deletes them both!? WTH?! Contributions were for two wikipedia entries... photos of philosophers... Gilbert LaFreniere and Max Oelshlaeger... both had copies of emails that I sent to the people who took the photos, I used the OTRS template for permissions requests, they acknowledged and gave permission to use the photos as described for the wikipage. I forwarded these to OTRS. The letters were acknowledged by OTRS and linked on the photo page. Everything looked fine. Was up for a few months. Now... gone with out a word, an email, or a trace. Makes me lose interest in trying to help the Wiki project. Pain in the rear and thankless, feels like entering into old school flame-wars on FARK. Except I cant even contact the person who did this to ask why. Why?!

File:Gilbert LaFreniere.jpg and File:Max Oelschlaeger.jpeg? They may need Commons:Undeletion requests.--Canoe1967 (talk) 18:23, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Undelete requests have been submitted. Contact has been made by the deletor for Gilbert LaFreniere, they explained that it appeared on another website, I am providing all the documentation that they require and we are are resolving this. But I have not heard why the Max photo was deleted. No idea what to do about it.

OTRS needs proper wording like: "I, the photographer/rights holder of image Max Oelschlaeger.jpeg agree to license it under CC-by-3.0 which I have viewed at http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.en . I understand that anyone can use it for any purpose including commercial." I think that makes it nice and legal. "The photograph is mine and the website is mine. You have my permission to use the photograph." is not enough for OTRS.--Canoe1967 (talk) 19:48, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I've moved the COM:UD threads to COM:OTRS/N. The files are going to remain deleted pending a re-evaluation of the above mentioned OTRS tickets -FASTILY 21:11, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fastily, I included the Wikimedia provided template letter... clearly explaining what/where the photo would be used, asking the webpage owner at the university to confirm that the photo was theirs and authorize its use per the provided wikimedia template letter, or point me to who did own the photo, the department webmaster replied that the photo was his, and that it could be used as stated. I feel you are being overly cautious. I understand. Why don't you just let someone else review this issue? Thanks! -Sblafren

It is under review by others. That's why I forwarded the matter to COM:OTRS/N in the first place -FASTILY 07:35, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

For delete my file! :) Bye, --Elisardojm (talk) 23:00, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Please explain why deleted «Category: Paraskeva Pyatnitsa»? There were illustrations associated with Slavic myths of St. Paraskeva (see ru:Параскева Пятница (мифология)). --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 05:30, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Per my FAQ, point 6, recreate the category if you want to use it -FASTILY 06:41, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted photo that had permissions

Hello, you deleted a photo for Farid Dms Debah that did have permissions.

Link the file in question, it's unclear what you're referring to -FASTILY 20:25, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Fastily, I know it's hard to decide when the case is not really clear and community involvement is low (I hoped for more community involvement myself), but I am not really happy how this DR turned out. For example you write that "After reviewing several legal cases and doing some research myself" but you don't link to these cases and new information you found. But this should be done and would give other user the opportunity to look into them and see form themself if and how they support the keep-decision. Also you failed to address one important point of mine, that it is quite hard to tell a illegal graffiti apart from a legal one. Can you write something about that? Thank you! --Isderion (talk) 13:34, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Commons:Requests for comment will get a wider input. I don't think there is an issue with the template but there will be issues with files in the future so any RfC will end up keeping the template. The template is here to warn re-users about the files possibly changing status. I think this has been discussed at length and the community has consensus to keep files deemed as 'illegal works'. We can still take files to DR for review about whether they are illegal or not. WMF DCMA takedown may handle a few as well.--Canoe1967 (talk) 16:39, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
@Fastily: As you edited in the meantime, are you going to ignore that question (no, Canoe1967 did not answer them all)?
@Canoe1967: Can't really see the consensus in this DR, there was only one explicit keep and that came from you. --Isderion (talk) 11:40, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There is no policy violation with the template so there shouldn't be consensus to delete it. If someone created 'Template:Kiddy Porn' or 'Template:Quebec signs in English only' then they would not violate policy either. Files that have the template may be illegal in some areas but not the templates themselves.--Canoe1967 (talk) 19:59, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Fastily, I've noticed that you've deleted my video File:Allan Warren intro.webm mentioning Housekeeping or non-controversial cleanup: courtesy delete as the reasoning for your action. I'd highly appreciate if you could 1. explain the basis for this deletion (per current guidelines & policies) and 2. explain why you chose not inform me. Thanks in advance. Regards, Christoph Braun (talk) 16:17, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

User:Allan warren requested the removal of the file. Based off this revision by User:Sj, who is a WMF board member, I'm inclined to believe that User:Allan warren is in fact Allan Warren. That said, I performed a courtesy delete out of respect for the subject of a unused and unlinked video. So out of process yes, but I don't believe this is unreasonable given the circumstances I've just described -FASTILY 20:25, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your response. I'd appreciate if you could explain why you did not chose to inform me about the deletion of this video. Regards, Christoph Braun (talk)
Because 1) I'm not required to by any policy, and because 2) some folks absolutely detest courtesy notifications. In fact, I've received rude responses and/or been called rude names for doing so. Just not worth my time or effort imo. -FASTILY 07:35, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That's quite appalling. Looks like I need to add every single of my uploads to my watchlist, if those entrusted with the power to delete images can not be confided to inform the original uploader and/or creator. I don't think the "shooting the messenger" metaphor applies in this case, since the messenger is not only the bearer, but also the perpetrator of bad news. Regards, Christoph Braun (talk) 10:06, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Moved from user page

Buenas tardes Fastily, no se si es correcto que escriba en tu discusión. Sino, por favor me lo indicas. Te escribo puesto que la imagen, 'colisiones en el lhc.jpg' tiene licencia libre de compartir y editar, pero me faltaba incluirla ( la licencia Creative Commons Genérica de Atribución/Compartir-Igual 3.0 ), solicito volver a subir el archivo. Gracias y un saludo, --LFISUPM2013 (talk) 17:40, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You may re-upload the file but please select a license tag, otherwise the file will be deleted again -FASTILY 20:25, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete

Hi Fastily! Can you please delete the last revision to this file: [3]. Thanks! Intoronto1125 (talk) 00:49, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done -FASTILY 07:35, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of File:Leguan zeleny (Iguana iguana).JPG

Since when is user request valid reason for speedy delete? The file was uploaded clearly with cc license and was used on cswiki (see http://cs.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Legu%C3%A1n_zelen%C3%BD&diff=10559894&oldid=10220573). --Jklamo (talk) 11:41, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't see that it still had file links. Fixed. -FASTILY 19:49, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

+ File:Smew (Mergellus albellus).JPG --Leyo 14:34, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The file was unlinked and unused. While deleting it does not change the copyright status, I do believe in performing courtesy deletes out of respect for our contributors who no longer wish for their work to be publicly viewable on Commons -FASTILY 19:49, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Fastily, Can you please retrieve one of the photos you have recently deleted? It's my own work. There are many photos from same event and same camera of my own works such as File:Navapol Lumpoon.jpg File:Mario and Witwisit at Star Entertainment Awards 2007.jpg File:Pachara Kaewpetch.JPG File:Sonthaya Chitmanee at Star Entertainment Awards 2007.jpg. --Sry85 (talk) 14:18, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It was vandalized. Fixed. -FASTILY 19:49, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]