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Dette er kandidater til å bli utmerkede bilder. For et arkiv over tidligere nominerte bilder, se loggen. Det finnes også en kronologisk liste over utmerkede bilder.

Nominering

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Om du tror at du har funnet eller laga et veldig bra bilde, legg det til i seksjonen for nominasjoner, øverst i lista, ved hjelp av denne lenka (hjelp). Du trenger ikke å ha en konto – selv anonyme brukere kan nominere bilder.

Bildet som nomineres må ha en god beskrivelse og en god lisens.

Avstemningsregler

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  • Avstemninga pågår i 9 dager; resultatet blir fastsatt den 10. dagen.
  • Dersom et bilde ikke har fått noen positive stemmer fra andre enn den som nominerte innen 5 dager, kan bildet fjernes fra lista.
  • Nominasjoner fra anonyme brukere er tillat.
  • Bidrag til diskusjoner fra anonyme brukere er tillat.
  • Stemmer fra anonyme brukere gjelder ikke.
  • En nominasjon gjelder ikke som en stemme – den som nominerer har også stemmerett.
  • Den som nominerer et bilde kan når som helst fjerne nominasjonen.

En kandidat blir et utmerka bilde dersom følgende krav møtes:

  • Korrekt lisens (selvsagt)
  • Minst fem stemmer for
  • Et stemmeforhold på 2:1 (dobbelt så mange ja-stemmer som nei)
  • To ulike versjoner av samme bilde kan ikke bli utmerka; kun det med høyest antall stemmer blir valgt.

Stemming kan gjøres med malene {{support}} eller {{oppose}}, nøytralitet angis med {{neutral}}.

Kandidater

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Commons:Photography terms#Shutter. You should probably read all of that page so you know how cameras work. --Cart (talk) 19:05, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've never held a still camera in my life. 20:05, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you took the time to learn a bit about cameras and photography, it would help you select photos for your noms and more of your nominated images would actually become FPs. What you are doing now is more based on "even a broken clock is right two times a day". Knowledge will always help you. --Cart (talk) 12:27, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  •   Comment True, i didnt concentrate just on mosque (photo which i had too), but all those shapes and was moving around that spot till i find this as best. White wall, green roof and mosque. So i put "architecture" and not just "mosque". --Mile (talk) 12:36, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • I just checked what I use: Depth map (B) Radius 8, Smoothing 4. I never change it. You have to go through each image cloning in the background where it is in focus then manually complete in Photoshop/Lightroom using the cloning tool. It is time-consuming. I've given up pointing out the ubiquitous stacking errors. Some voters don't seem to mind. Charlesjsharp (talk) 16:15, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • And you have to do the same for the background otherwise you get these sort of halos/patterns. Charlesjsharp (talk) 16:20, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You're throwing away a lot of what Helicon can do by sticking to the default settings and going straight to cloning. Here's the workflow I found most effective so far: 1) make several outputs with different settings (usually method B with a 4 to 20 radius, but sometimes also method C); 2) combine the best features of each output (with the 'Use other output as source' option mentioned above); 3) clean up the background by sourcing it from a single frame (usually Helicon sources it from multiple frames, messing up the bokeh); 4) clone any lingering errors (sometimes within Helicon, but most often using Photoshop's better tools) --Julesvernex2 (talk) 16:59, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Never try this, you can get trunk! -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:46, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The background was chosen very carefully to be not so interesting. In the African bush, this is the nearest we can get to a nice bokeh. You would not see the water droplets otherwise. Charlesjsharp (talk) 07:46, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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And 2.74 MB is much more than 392 KB. High JPG compression rate in this case -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:32, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mapas de España y Portugal - por el ingeniero de minas D. Federico de Botella y de Hornos

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  • A high quality photo of a bird species like this does provide educational value. Not everyone will be aware that semiarid dessert supports significant birdlife. Charlesjsharp (talk) 16:56, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes but not much of it and my view is that it's not sufficient to be FP. It shows how this particular species looks like (like the other photos of the species) but the educational value (especially given the large amount of FP photos like that, the limited relevance to people and society, the existing other media about the bird, etc) is limited. I don't know why the criteria of educational value is not more important to other editors here given the WMC pillars / the contents of the scope page. Prototyperspective (talk) 21:33, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  Question This picture is upscaled? what's happened with the child face (right lower corner) --Wilfredor (talk) 21:25, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This must have been due to some window glass curve effect. I don't think the image was upscaled. The camera is capable of more than 100 MP. August (talk) 21:32, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Support Thanks for answering Wilfredor (talk) 21:51, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Gallery: Commons:Featured pictures/Places/Settlements#Brazil
  •   Info created and uploaded by Wilfredor, nominated by me. RodRabelo7 (talk) 08:38, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support -- RodRabelo7 (talk) 08:38, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose Quality problem. F/2.8 = Limited depth of field. Out of focus foreground and background. ISO 5,000 = poor level of detail. Very high level of noise in the dark areas. Blown highlights on the beach. Also overprocessed (the whites are gray) -- Basile Morin (talk) 10:52, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support Thank you, RodRabelo7, for this nomination. I reconstructed the image from RAW using NX Studio, applying a vignetting fix. I used Topaz Denoise for noise reduction. The ISO was set to 1600 due to the lighting conditions. I didn't use a tripod to avoid drawing attention in a favela. The aperture was set to 2.8 because the subject was far away, and at such distances, a larger aperture isn't necessary. It’s normal because it is a night photo for some areas to appear very bright while others are darker. --Wilfredor (talk) 23:53, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose I dont see DoF problems, but 2.8 means very unsharp on edges. Bigest problem is very strong CA, i think hours could be spent here to solve it, after it highligthed boards etc. Tripod would solve, but you didnt try it. Alternative has same problems. What is blown cant get back. --Mile (talk) 07:46, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I didn't use a tripod because it is a dangerous place to have such an expensive camera, I couldn't draw attention to myself so I had some problems in that place Wilfredor (talk) 12:42, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Comment I read that before, but i dont see how should this help to change my vote. You would have CA in any case, means a lot of work to solve it. I did like the photo in thumb, but when opened in 100 % not so much. --Mile (talk) 14:25, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  •   Info Another shoot in low level --Wilfredor (talk) 01:32, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose I dont see DoF problems, but 2.8 means very unsharp on edges. Bigest problem is very strong CA, i think hours could be spent here to solve it, after it highligthed boards etc. Tripod would solve, but you didnt try it. Alternative has same problems. What is blown cant get back. --Mile (talk) 07:46, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      chromatic aberration is gone Wilfredor (talk) 18:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Comment Its is, i wish you could do that with first one, or to try here midtones,shadows to incerase EV. 1st is too brigth, this one is a bit underexposed. --Mile (talk) 19:10, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose Level of blur of the background. Yes, DoF is a real problem, not only on edges, also at the distance. Low level of detail due to high ISO: 2500 here or 5000 / 1600 in the previous version(s), it is far too excessive when you need to lift the shadows in post-process. Shooting at dark night without tripod is hard (more than blue hour). The picture is okay to document the place, but technically not one of the finest. Empirical solutions when you don't have a tripod: 1) use a simple (and more discreet) monopod, which generally allows you to reach one full second quite easily, 2) use a wall, or any edge of surrounding structure, then stabilize the camera with stones, 3) walk with a friend who masters martial arts :-) or with good eyes, capable of monitoring, 4) Possible sometimes to manually take multiple shots at different focus points, then carefully assembly them at home, 5) Go at blue hour, when there is still more light. It will also bring an appealing sky, while reducing the highlights -- Basile Morin (talk) 03:18, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    And it seems tilted to the right. 03:03, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support striking photo Henrysz (talk) 22:24, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support JukoFF (talk) 19:46, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support El Golli Mohamed 15:48, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Improved -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:34, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Confirmed results:
Result: 11 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /-- Radomianin (talk) 21:12, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This image will be added to the FP gallery: Places/Natural/Australia#Victoria

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You are clearly missing the point of having FPs. Ideally, we should have at least one image that is so great it can be viewed as an FP for each category and each article on the WikiProject. Saying that we don't need more FPs of birds because there are already hundreds of them, is simply ludicrous. We need more FPs (of all sorts of subjects), not less, if this is ever going to be the high quality project we strive to make it. And please stop referring to the front-page all the time with these boilerplate opposes, they are not a helpful critique. The front-page is an insignificant by-product, not a goal. Odd votes like this, are actually counterproductive since they keep many good photographers away from FPC, thereby limiting the selection of diverse photos here. Not all people show up voluntarily to such hostile environments to get their photos evaluated when photography is a hobby and not a livelihood you need to fight for. --Cart (talk) 11:16, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The same applies for illustrations and other images that are more educational than photos of which there are many thousands of the same subject. Prototyperspective (talk) 13:43, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Your reasoning sounds really warped to me. So in your opinion, what should we have FPs of since according to you, people and birds are now out of the question, and how many FPs do you think we should have on Commons to cover all articles and projects? You have only stated cons in your arguments, I'm interested in hearing your pros. I'm also curious about what categories here contain thousands of illustrations of the same subject. I do a lot of category sorting, and I don't recall coming across such categories. It would be interesting to see so many different takes on the same subject. --Cart (talk) 14:20, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I believe that all of Proto's opposing votes should be nullified. Criticizing pictures of birds and claiming they do not fit within COM:SCOPE, as well as using the Main Page as a reason to oppose, are unhelpful reasons. Additionally, Proto mentioned that they would "start voting oppose very often" because the image they nominated received multiple opposing votes due to quality and professionality. Based on their behavior, I doubt Proto understands how FPC works. Zzzs (talk) 15:28, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If we had a community decision that a user isn't fit to vote on FPC, for whatever reason, then all their votes (s & o) should be striked. That's how it's been done before with sockpuppets and disruptive users. Such a decision usually comes after a discussion on the FPC talk page. --Cart (talk) 15:38, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I believe this should be considered as a last resort if Proto continues with his disruptive behaviour on FPC. Zzzs (talk) 15:42, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is true. All other efforts and attempts to resolve things like this, should first be made before doing something drastic. --Cart (talk) 15:45, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have posted on his talk page what COM:FPC is and warned him of his behaviour. Zzzs (talk) 16:49, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fingers crossed then. I really miss the days when FPC was a forum for photographers, where we supported each other and tried our darndest to create the most stunning images for the WikiProject. --Cart (talk) 18:42, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For the record, I've started a thread on COM:ANU. --SHB2000 (talk) 04:45, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
as well as using the Main Page as a reason to oppose
Objectively false.
If the standards are this high, I'm going to vote by putting images under a lens of a high standard. Prototyperspective (talk) 21:04, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You wrote "images like this shouldn't be highlighted such as included on the front-page" as part of your reason for opposing, so I don't see how you can deny that and call it "false". --Cart (talk) 21:14, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was referring to Featured picture candidates are images that the community will vote on, to determine whether or not they will be highlighted as some of the finest on Commons. They aren't only shown on the frontpage but also highlighted with tools and methods that show featured pictures as well as more as a general thing where I disagree with that these "some of the finest on Commons". People turned this FP thing into a "some of the finest by photography technical criteria but nothing else" long ago but WMC is not a photography critique site (not saying technical photo critique shouldn't be done and that there shouldn't be photo communities on the site). Prototyperspective (talk) 21:37, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Commons as such may not be a photography critique site, but the COM:CRIT, QIC, VIC and FPC sure are. How else can we determine what photos are good. --Cart (talk) 21:48, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Their contents are already evaluated so technical flawlessness etc is already not the only criteria – people here just don't consider the criteria of educational content much usually. I quoted things that describe what FP is and what WMC is and from both I conclude that criteria of educational quality/degree is very appropriate. Prototyperspective (talk) 22:28, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You don't seem to be getting the point here, do you? --SHB2000 (talk) 05:06, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I consider the picture photojournalism. It is nominated for the contemporary history gallery. Demonstrations and statements like this were common in 2022. --Thi (talk) 21:26, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose We have some unwriten rule, not to put actual political situtaion on FP, till it cool down. Probably we have double copyvio, i doubt author of printed photo made Kremelj and Putin photo, to make collage. Above all, i dont want to see this "hate speach" as picture of the day. --Mile (talk) 11:15, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Comment The sign includes copyrighted elements, so the picture is under deletion according to Commons:Derivative works. 29 Wikipedia articles use the image. It could be useful if the sign was blurred like the license plate numbers in some pictures. I don't do it with my own skills, so that the picture doesn't start to resemble Ecce Homo. --Thi (talk) 18:26, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Comment Agree; maybe we can help here. @A.Savin: Would you agree that it is sufficient to blur the image(s) on the demonstrator’s sign, keeping the “Stop Putler!” letters, to get rid of the copyright violation problem? Then such a modified version of this image could be kept as a useful illustration for the mentioned Wikipedia articles. Is it also necessary to blur the (already very blurry) Hitler image on the sign in the background? I would regard the latter as de minimis because it is out of focus. (And no, I do not want to promote/defent the “Putler” term; historically this is certainly a wrong comparison, just as most comparisons; but the term exists, and the image is a good illustration.) – Aristeas (talk) 19:22, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not just the source images but also the collage itself (yes, even as poorly made one as this) may be a reason to claim copyright. So no, blurring wouldn't help us and the image should be deleted. --A.Savin 10:13, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Confirmed results:
Result: 8 support, 4 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /-- Radomianin (talk) 21:13, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This image will be added to the FP gallery: Objects/Vehicles/Air transport#Propeller aircraft


Fjerning av utmerket-status

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Etterhvert hender det at statusen for utmerka bilder endres. Bilder som tidligere var bra nok, vil kanskje ikke lenger bli ansett som det. Her listes bilder som du ikke lenger synes fortjener å være det. Da trengs to tredels majoritet (og minst fem stemmer) som er enig i å fjerne statusen fra bildet. Dersom ikke to tredeler av stemmene er enig i å fjerne statusen, blir den beholdt. Her stemmer man med {{keep}} (behold bildet som utmerka) eller {{delist}} (bildet fortjener ikke lenger å være utmerka). Når du nominerer et bilde her, ta med lenka til den opprinnelige nominasjonen (den finnes under Lenker på bildets beskrivelsesside. Bruk denne lenka for å legge til en fjerningskandidat.

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Commons:Photography terms#Shutter. You should probably read all of that page so you know how cameras work. --Cart (talk) 19:05, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've never held a still camera in my life. 20:05, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you took the time to learn a bit about cameras and photography, it would help you select photos for your noms and more of your nominated images would actually become FPs. What you are doing now is more based on "even a broken clock is right two times a day". Knowledge will always help you. --Cart (talk) 12:27, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  •   Comment True, i didnt concentrate just on mosque (photo which i had too), but all those shapes and was moving around that spot till i find this as best. White wall, green roof and mosque. So i put "architecture" and not just "mosque". --Mile (talk) 12:36, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • I just checked what I use: Depth map (B) Radius 8, Smoothing 4. I never change it. You have to go through each image cloning in the background where it is in focus then manually complete in Photoshop/Lightroom using the cloning tool. It is time-consuming. I've given up pointing out the ubiquitous stacking errors. Some voters don't seem to mind. Charlesjsharp (talk) 16:15, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • And you have to do the same for the background otherwise you get these sort of halos/patterns. Charlesjsharp (talk) 16:20, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You're throwing away a lot of what Helicon can do by sticking to the default settings and going straight to cloning. Here's the workflow I found most effective so far: 1) make several outputs with different settings (usually method B with a 4 to 20 radius, but sometimes also method C); 2) combine the best features of each output (with the 'Use other output as source' option mentioned above); 3) clean up the background by sourcing it from a single frame (usually Helicon sources it from multiple frames, messing up the bokeh); 4) clone any lingering errors (sometimes within Helicon, but most often using Photoshop's better tools) --Julesvernex2 (talk) 16:59, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Never try this, you can get trunk! -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:46, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The background was chosen very carefully to be not so interesting. In the African bush, this is the nearest we can get to a nice bokeh. You would not see the water droplets otherwise. Charlesjsharp (talk) 07:46, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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And 2.74 MB is much more than 392 KB. High JPG compression rate in this case -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:32, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mapas de España y Portugal - por el ingeniero de minas D. Federico de Botella y de Hornos

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  • A high quality photo of a bird species like this does provide educational value. Not everyone will be aware that semiarid dessert supports significant birdlife. Charlesjsharp (talk) 16:56, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes but not much of it and my view is that it's not sufficient to be FP. It shows how this particular species looks like (like the other photos of the species) but the educational value (especially given the large amount of FP photos like that, the limited relevance to people and society, the existing other media about the bird, etc) is limited. I don't know why the criteria of educational value is not more important to other editors here given the WMC pillars / the contents of the scope page. Prototyperspective (talk) 21:33, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  Question This picture is upscaled? what's happened with the child face (right lower corner) --Wilfredor (talk) 21:25, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This must have been due to some window glass curve effect. I don't think the image was upscaled. The camera is capable of more than 100 MP. August (talk) 21:32, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Support Thanks for answering Wilfredor (talk) 21:51, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Gallery: Commons:Featured pictures/Places/Settlements#Brazil
  •   Info created and uploaded by Wilfredor, nominated by me. RodRabelo7 (talk) 08:38, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support -- RodRabelo7 (talk) 08:38, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose Quality problem. F/2.8 = Limited depth of field. Out of focus foreground and background. ISO 5,000 = poor level of detail. Very high level of noise in the dark areas. Blown highlights on the beach. Also overprocessed (the whites are gray) -- Basile Morin (talk) 10:52, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support Thank you, RodRabelo7, for this nomination. I reconstructed the image from RAW using NX Studio, applying a vignetting fix. I used Topaz Denoise for noise reduction. The ISO was set to 1600 due to the lighting conditions. I didn't use a tripod to avoid drawing attention in a favela. The aperture was set to 2.8 because the subject was far away, and at such distances, a larger aperture isn't necessary. It’s normal because it is a night photo for some areas to appear very bright while others are darker. --Wilfredor (talk) 23:53, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose I dont see DoF problems, but 2.8 means very unsharp on edges. Bigest problem is very strong CA, i think hours could be spent here to solve it, after it highligthed boards etc. Tripod would solve, but you didnt try it. Alternative has same problems. What is blown cant get back. --Mile (talk) 07:46, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I didn't use a tripod because it is a dangerous place to have such an expensive camera, I couldn't draw attention to myself so I had some problems in that place Wilfredor (talk) 12:42, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Comment I read that before, but i dont see how should this help to change my vote. You would have CA in any case, means a lot of work to solve it. I did like the photo in thumb, but when opened in 100 % not so much. --Mile (talk) 14:25, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  •   Info Another shoot in low level --Wilfredor (talk) 01:32, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose I dont see DoF problems, but 2.8 means very unsharp on edges. Bigest problem is very strong CA, i think hours could be spent here to solve it, after it highligthed boards etc. Tripod would solve, but you didnt try it. Alternative has same problems. What is blown cant get back. --Mile (talk) 07:46, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      chromatic aberration is gone Wilfredor (talk) 18:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Comment Its is, i wish you could do that with first one, or to try here midtones,shadows to incerase EV. 1st is too brigth, this one is a bit underexposed. --Mile (talk) 19:10, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose Level of blur of the background. Yes, DoF is a real problem, not only on edges, also at the distance. Low level of detail due to high ISO: 2500 here or 5000 / 1600 in the previous version(s), it is far too excessive when you need to lift the shadows in post-process. Shooting at dark night without tripod is hard (more than blue hour). The picture is okay to document the place, but technically not one of the finest. Empirical solutions when you don't have a tripod: 1) use a simple (and more discreet) monopod, which generally allows you to reach one full second quite easily, 2) use a wall, or any edge of surrounding structure, then stabilize the camera with stones, 3) walk with a friend who masters martial arts :-) or with good eyes, capable of monitoring, 4) Possible sometimes to manually take multiple shots at different focus points, then carefully assembly them at home, 5) Go at blue hour, when there is still more light. It will also bring an appealing sky, while reducing the highlights -- Basile Morin (talk) 03:18, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    And it seems tilted to the right. 03:03, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support striking photo Henrysz (talk) 22:24, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support JukoFF (talk) 19:46, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support El Golli Mohamed 15:48, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Improved -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:34, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Confirmed results:
Result: 11 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /-- Radomianin (talk) 21:12, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This image will be added to the FP gallery: Places/Natural/Australia#Victoria

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You are clearly missing the point of having FPs. Ideally, we should have at least one image that is so great it can be viewed as an FP for each category and each article on the WikiProject. Saying that we don't need more FPs of birds because there are already hundreds of them, is simply ludicrous. We need more FPs (of all sorts of subjects), not less, if this is ever going to be the high quality project we strive to make it. And please stop referring to the front-page all the time with these boilerplate opposes, they are not a helpful critique. The front-page is an insignificant by-product, not a goal. Odd votes like this, are actually counterproductive since they keep many good photographers away from FPC, thereby limiting the selection of diverse photos here. Not all people show up voluntarily to such hostile environments to get their photos evaluated when photography is a hobby and not a livelihood you need to fight for. --Cart (talk) 11:16, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The same applies for illustrations and other images that are more educational than photos of which there are many thousands of the same subject. Prototyperspective (talk) 13:43, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Your reasoning sounds really warped to me. So in your opinion, what should we have FPs of since according to you, people and birds are now out of the question, and how many FPs do you think we should have on Commons to cover all articles and projects? You have only stated cons in your arguments, I'm interested in hearing your pros. I'm also curious about what categories here contain thousands of illustrations of the same subject. I do a lot of category sorting, and I don't recall coming across such categories. It would be interesting to see so many different takes on the same subject. --Cart (talk) 14:20, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I believe that all of Proto's opposing votes should be nullified. Criticizing pictures of birds and claiming they do not fit within COM:SCOPE, as well as using the Main Page as a reason to oppose, are unhelpful reasons. Additionally, Proto mentioned that they would "start voting oppose very often" because the image they nominated received multiple opposing votes due to quality and professionality. Based on their behavior, I doubt Proto understands how FPC works. Zzzs (talk) 15:28, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If we had a community decision that a user isn't fit to vote on FPC, for whatever reason, then all their votes (s & o) should be striked. That's how it's been done before with sockpuppets and disruptive users. Such a decision usually comes after a discussion on the FPC talk page. --Cart (talk) 15:38, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I believe this should be considered as a last resort if Proto continues with his disruptive behaviour on FPC. Zzzs (talk) 15:42, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is true. All other efforts and attempts to resolve things like this, should first be made before doing something drastic. --Cart (talk) 15:45, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have posted on his talk page what COM:FPC is and warned him of his behaviour. Zzzs (talk) 16:49, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fingers crossed then. I really miss the days when FPC was a forum for photographers, where we supported each other and tried our darndest to create the most stunning images for the WikiProject. --Cart (talk) 18:42, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For the record, I've started a thread on COM:ANU. --SHB2000 (talk) 04:45, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
as well as using the Main Page as a reason to oppose
Objectively false.
If the standards are this high, I'm going to vote by putting images under a lens of a high standard. Prototyperspective (talk) 21:04, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You wrote "images like this shouldn't be highlighted such as included on the front-page" as part of your reason for opposing, so I don't see how you can deny that and call it "false". --Cart (talk) 21:14, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was referring to Featured picture candidates are images that the community will vote on, to determine whether or not they will be highlighted as some of the finest on Commons. They aren't only shown on the frontpage but also highlighted with tools and methods that show featured pictures as well as more as a general thing where I disagree with that these "some of the finest on Commons". People turned this FP thing into a "some of the finest by photography technical criteria but nothing else" long ago but WMC is not a photography critique site (not saying technical photo critique shouldn't be done and that there shouldn't be photo communities on the site). Prototyperspective (talk) 21:37, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Commons as such may not be a photography critique site, but the COM:CRIT, QIC, VIC and FPC sure are. How else can we determine what photos are good. --Cart (talk) 21:48, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Their contents are already evaluated so technical flawlessness etc is already not the only criteria – people here just don't consider the criteria of educational content much usually. I quoted things that describe what FP is and what WMC is and from both I conclude that criteria of educational quality/degree is very appropriate. Prototyperspective (talk) 22:28, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You don't seem to be getting the point here, do you? --SHB2000 (talk) 05:06, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I consider the picture photojournalism. It is nominated for the contemporary history gallery. Demonstrations and statements like this were common in 2022. --Thi (talk) 21:26, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose We have some unwriten rule, not to put actual political situtaion on FP, till it cool down. Probably we have double copyvio, i doubt author of printed photo made Kremelj and Putin photo, to make collage. Above all, i dont want to see this "hate speach" as picture of the day. --Mile (talk) 11:15, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Comment The sign includes copyrighted elements, so the picture is under deletion according to Commons:Derivative works. 29 Wikipedia articles use the image. It could be useful if the sign was blurred like the license plate numbers in some pictures. I don't do it with my own skills, so that the picture doesn't start to resemble Ecce Homo. --Thi (talk) 18:26, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Comment Agree; maybe we can help here. @A.Savin: Would you agree that it is sufficient to blur the image(s) on the demonstrator’s sign, keeping the “Stop Putler!” letters, to get rid of the copyright violation problem? Then such a modified version of this image could be kept as a useful illustration for the mentioned Wikipedia articles. Is it also necessary to blur the (already very blurry) Hitler image on the sign in the background? I would regard the latter as de minimis because it is out of focus. (And no, I do not want to promote/defent the “Putler” term; historically this is certainly a wrong comparison, just as most comparisons; but the term exists, and the image is a good illustration.) – Aristeas (talk) 19:22, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not just the source images but also the collage itself (yes, even as poorly made one as this) may be a reason to claim copyright. So no, blurring wouldn't help us and the image should be deleted. --A.Savin 10:13, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Confirmed results:
Result: 8 support, 4 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /-- Radomianin (talk) 21:13, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This image will be added to the FP gallery: Objects/Vehicles/Air transport#Propeller aircraft