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:Coming to the point: should we suppress or display the "url without title" error for {cite interview}? I would suppress it. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 19:53, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
::For your particular example, I would use "Leader and bassist of the band Kiss, Gene Simmons" per [http://www.npr.org/2002/12/30/896304/leader-and-bassist-of-the-band-kiss-gene-simmons NPR], just as it is used in the [[Terry Gross]] article. --<span style="color:Turquoise">''''' [[User:Gadget850|Gadget850]]'''''<sup>[[User talk:Gadget850| ''talk'']]</sup></span> 20:18, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
==Approximate year==
I thought it was agreed that approximate years, in the form {{para|year|c. 2009}}, was allowed. I note, however, that this no longer works (see the source by Time Service Dept. in [[Coordinated Universal Time]], which no longer connects the inline cite to the bibliography. [[User:Jc3s5h|Jc3s5h]] ([[User talk:Jc3s5h|talk]]) 13:41, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
:[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Coordinated_Universal_Time&diff=596777855&oldid=596747390 Fixed] using {{tl|sfnref}}. There may be another way. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 14:45, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
:Fixed in [[Module:Citation/CS1/sandbox]].
::{{cite web/new | ref=harv | author = Time Service Dept. | title = Leap Seconds | year = c. 2009 | publisher = United States Naval Observatory | url = http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/leapsec.html | accessdate = 17 July 2011}}
:—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 16:14, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
::What is now allowable in the date field? --<span style="color:Turquoise">''''' [[User:Gadget850|Gadget850]]'''''<sup>[[User talk:Gadget850| ''talk'']]</sup></span> 18:18, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
:::When an approximate year is specified, the form is: <code>c.<space>year<CITEREF disambiguator></code> where <code>year</code> is a three or four digit number, the first digit of which must be in the range 1–9 (100–9999); and where <code><CITEREF disambiguator></code> is an upper or lower case letter (A–Z and a–z). Approximate years may be specified with either {{para|date}} or {{para|year}}.
:::—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 18:41, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
::::Of course <code>c.<space></code> and <code><CITEREF disambiguator></code> are optional. Either or both may be omitted. Or that's how it ought to work. Also, the year range limitation only applies if one wants automatic linking from a parenthetical citation or short footnote to the bibliography entry. If the editors of an article aren't using the feature, years outside that range could be used. [[User:Jc3s5h|Jc3s5h]] ([[User talk:Jc3s5h|talk]]) 19:14, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::Years outside the 100–9999 range are not valid regardless of the use of the ''circa'' prefix or the CITEREF disambiguator. This constraint is a holdover from the limitations imposed by the [//www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions#.23time #time parser function]. As far as I know, there has been no determination made to extend this range.
:::::—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 19:34, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
::::::[[Help:Citation Style 1]] says nothing about accurate dates not being allowed. It does say that the date formats in the acceptable date format table of [[WP:DATESNO]] are allowed. That table says nothing about a limit on the date range. Obviously [[WP:DATESNO]] must allow for the representation of every possible date. [[Help:Citation Style 1]] says nothing about limiting the date range in all cases, only that the automatic linking won't work if the date is outside the indicated range. So if there was ever a discussion saying this limitation is OK in general, that limitation never made it into [[Help:Citation Style 1]]. [[User:Jc3s5h|Jc3s5h]] ([[User talk:Jc3s5h|talk]]) 19:47, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::::I see this was discussed at [[Module talk:Citation/CS1/Archive 9#Should date validation allow "BC" and other eras?]] and the majority of editors seemed to accept the idea of entering whatever date was correct, even if it was before 100.
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