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Socrates then admits that he thought the preceding speech was terrible. It repeated itself numerous times, seemed uninterested in its subject, and seemed to be showing off. He then says he can make an even better speech than Lysias on the same subject.{{rf|6|plato6}}
 
===First speech of [[Socrates]]===
Socrates, however, refuses to give the speech. Phaedrus warns him that he is younger and stronger, and Socrates should "take his meaning" and "stop playing hard to get".{{rf|7|plato7}} After finally swearing on the plane tree that he will never recite another speech to Socrates if Socrates refuses, Socrates, covering his head out of embarrassment, consents.{{rf|8|plato8}}
 
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The non-lover, he concludes, will do none of this, always ruled by judgment rather than desire for pleasure. Socrates, fearing that the nymphs will take complete control of him if he continues, states that he is going to leave before Phaedrus makes him "do something even worse".{{rf|17|plato17}}
 
However, just before Socrates is about to leave, he is stopped by the "familiar divine sign", his [[daemon]], which occurs always and only just before Socrates is about to do something he should not. A voice "from this very spot" forbids Socrates to leave before he makes atonement for some offense to the gods. Socrates states that he is a "seer". While he is not very good at it, he is good enough for his purposes, and he recognizes what his offense has been: if love is a god or something divine, as he and Phaedrus both agree he is, he cannot be bad, as the previous speeches have portrayed him.{{rf|18|plato18}} Socrates, baring his head, vows to undergo a rite of purification as a follower of the [[Muse]]s, and procedes to give a speech praising the lover.{{rf|19|plato19}}
 
===Second speech of Socrates===