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You are invited to comment on the discussion at [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 June 5#Template:AZBilliards\|'''the entry on the Templates for discussion page''']].<!--Template:Tfdnotice--> [[User:Gonnym\|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym\|talk]]) 10:45, 5 June 2024 (UTC) == Deletion of a redirect you created == {{Resolved}} Hello, would you be alright with this redirect [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hypothyroidism_in_dogs&redirect=no] being deleted to make way for an article I've written on the subject: [[Draft:Hypothyroidism in dogs]], thanks. [[User:Traumnovelle\|Traumnovelle]] ([[User talk:Traumnovelle\|talk]]) 22:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC) :{{ping\|Traumnovelle}} Sounds like a good plan. :-) <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish\|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish\|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish\|¢]] 😼 </span> 23:55, 8 June 2024 (UTC) ::{{ping\|Traumnovelle}} I have now handily forgotten where the redirect went, but I recall that it was a section. That section could probably use a {{tlx\|Main\|Hypothyroidism in dogs}} if you didn't do that already. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish\|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish\|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish\|¢]] 😼 </span> 10:07, 9 June 2024 (UTC) :::It went to list of dog diseases, I'll add that now thanks. [[User:Traumnovelle\|Traumnovelle]] ([[User talk:Traumnovelle\|talk]]) 21:22, 9 June 2024 (UTC) ::::Ehhhhhhxcellent, as Mr. Burns would say (with steepled fingers). <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish\|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish\|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish\|¢]] 😼 </span> 04:46, 10 June 2024 (UTC) == Feedback request: Economy, trade, and companies request for comment == {{Resbox\|Done}} <!--[[File:Internet-group-chat.svg\|48px\|left\|alt=\|link=]]-->Your feedback is requested at [[Talk:United States#rfc_65D3118\|'''Talk:United States''' on a "Economy, trade, and companies" request for comment]]. Thank you for helping out!<br/><small>You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of [[WP:FRS\|Feedback Request Service]] subscribers. 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I recall you helped me once w/ a Bette Davis section hatnote indent. This one is a bit different, as it's an inquiry about a page-topper hatnote (forgive/correct me, if terminologies are incorrect). So with some similarly titled things, I think there are instances where simple About-For, Distinguish-For, etc. etc. all work just fine, or even just single About, For, Distinguish, et al. There is also Redirect-Distinguish-For, which I've used at least once. But I can't fathom exactly ''why'' there isn't an About-Distinguish-For?? I know I've edited a few recently where I felt that was the best choice, yet realized it's non-existent. I feel like it's close enough to Redirect-Distinguish-For to be worth formatting for usage. Using two separate hatnotes, in which the second ends up creating a line break/second line for no reason is no good. For just a small example—not the best—let's use this indie film, ''Departure'' (2015). Stub, needs work. But About "2015 film". Not to be confused with 2008 film. For other films with the same title, see ''Departure (disambiguation) § Films''. Just pretend these are bigger films, if needed. First is to identify or clarify article, rather than what redirected them there. Second, this particular alternate title that could cause confusion is the MOST notable one that is worth '''''singling out''''' for distinguishment, because it's the foreign-language Oscar winner. And lastly, the disambiguation is not just general departures, but a list of a few other films from various years that are also titled ''Departure'' (in some spelling/grammar variation). If need be, replace these with any Major/Minor/Other popular names of nouns! I thought there might be some way to manipulate the template within the template, to insert the {For} within an About-Distinguish-custom text type. Idk. But alas, that's where I'm at and I seem to be having trouble articulating the necessity, imo, for one. --[[User:Cinemaniac86\|Cinemaniac86]]<sup>[[User talk:Cinemaniac86\|Talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Cinemaniac86\|Stalk]]</sub> 05:00, 18 June 2024 (UTC) :{{ping\|Cinemaniac86}} Okay, so we have [[Departure (disambiguation)#Films]], and [[Departure (2015 film)\|''Departure'' (2015 film)]], and 3 other films by the same name (4 counting a film better known by an alternative title), and 10 total counting ''The Departure'' and plural ''Departures'' variants (but apparently no ''The Departures'').<!-- --><p>In this case, I would simply use {{tlx\|For\|other films with the same title\|Departure (disambiguation)#Films}}. I really can't see a good rationale for {{tlx\|About-distinguish\|the 2015 film\|Departures (2008 film)}}, since {{em\|neither}} the title nor the year are a match, and there is no actual reason to try to single out any other movie at all (award or no) among such a number of films. Anyone who is so aware of the details of obscure Oscars categories is already going to know it was a 2008 Best Foreign Film winner not a 2015 winner. I.e., there is far more confusion potential with [[Departure (1931 film)\|''Departure'' (1931 film)]], [[Departure (1938 film)\|''Departure'' (1938 film)]], and [[Departure (1986 film)\|''Departure'' (1986 film)]]. Anyone who just encountered a "I really recommend the film ''Departure''" or something will not know which it is, especially if it was in a context like a film class or some other venue that was not wholly focused on recent releases. If [[The Departure (2015 film)\|''The Departure'' (2015 film)]] or a [[Departures (2015 film)\|''Departures'' (2015 film)]] also existed (or something like "[[Chicken Nuggets of Doom\|''Chicken Nuggets of Doom'']], a 2015 Elbonian film re-titled ''Departure'' in some markets"), those would also be very likely confusion candidates.</p><!-- --><p>But there are {{em\|already}} too many to call them out specifically in a hatnote. {{tlx\|For\|other films with the same or similar titles\|Departure (disambiguation)#Films}} is really what is needed (without any other DAB hatnote). And while it doesn't apply to this specific obscure indy film, for many films there could also be a directly related soundtrack album, novel, video game, sequel, earlier or remake film version, derived TV series, overall franchise article, or something else to disambiguate from the 2015 (or whatever year) film.</p><!-- --><p>Maybe there could be a use case for a {{tlx\|About-distinguish-for}}, I don't think [[Departure (2015 film)\|''Departure'' (2015 film)]] is that use case. And while it would be easy to create such a template, if it does not see [appropriate] use, it will just get deleted at [[WP:TFD]]. Wikipedia's been disambiguating things for 23+ years, and has done so fine without such a template, so it's unlikely to prove useful. It's important to remember that these hatnotes exist only to help readers be sure they have arrived at the right article when they just guess at a title, or click on something that provides the title but insufficent context for that person to positively identify it among the alternatives. A purpose they do not serve is trying to "educate" or PoV-sway readers with an editorial opinion about what is most popular or important or notable among things with kinda-similar names from different time periods. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish\|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish\|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish\|¢]] 😼 </span> 22:04, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</p> == June thanks == {{User QAIbox \| image = Rose flowers, Bingen.jpg \| image_upright = 0.8 \| bold = [[User:Gerda Arendt/Top\|story]] · [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#Music\|music]] · [[User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2024#22 Jun\|places]] }} Thank you for improving article quality in June! - Today we have [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#20 Jun\|a centenarian story]] (documentation about it by [[Percy Adlon]]) and [[Gerhard Klingenberg\|an article that]] had two sentences yesterday and was up for deletion, and needs a few more citations. -- [[User:Gerda Arendt\|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt\|talk]]) 14:01, 20 June 2024 (UTC) == Inconsistent link-appearance behavior == Hey SMcCandlish, I'm fixing {{tl\|Xtn}}'s appearance in dark mode, and I'm not sure I understand the hidden comment left there. Does {{tl\|Xtn/sandbox}} work? [[User:Snowmanonahoe\|Snowmanonahoe]] ([[User talk:Snowmanonahoe\|talk]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Snowmanonahoe\|contribs]] '''·''' [[User:Snowmanonahoe/Typos\|typos]]) 17:52, 7 July 2024 (UTC) :{{ping\|Snowmanonahoe}} Well, the HTML comment seems to indicate that without <code>color: initial</code>, various of these xt-family of templates do not have consistent link-coloring behavior. As for dark mode, I'm not sure which dark mode you mean. I don't see a "dark mode" option in the desktop version (in Vector Legacy, which is what I use). Regardless, this CSS stuff would probably be better moved to a TemplateStyles page at this point. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish\|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish\|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish\|¢]] 😼 </span> 02:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC) ::See [[mw:Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading/Updates/2024-04]] for more information on dark mode. It's not on Vector legacy. As for the hidden comment, the part I don't understand is what "consistent link-coloring behavior" means. [[User:Snowmanonahoe\|Snowmanonahoe]] ([[User talk:Snowmanonahoe\|talk]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Snowmanonahoe\|contribs]] '''·''' [[User:Snowmanonahoe/Typos\|typos]]) 03:13, 8 July 2024 (UTC) :::Not sure what's unclear about it. It means links will not be colored consistently. At this distant a remove, I'm not certain under what conditions that problem arose (i.e. whether it was consistently between templates in that group, or consistently from context to context using the same template). But it did arise, and thus the fix was implemented.<p>I would think the thing to do would be to have <code>color: initial</code> applied by default, and override it selectively for particular conditions in which whatever custom result you want to apply under those particular conditions has been well-tested.</p><p>I'm highly skeptical that a specific color such as <code>color: black</code> should ever be set, since it incorrectly presupposes that the conditions of the surrounding block will be known at all times and will be consistent from one context to another, which is not correct (though when it is wrong will probably not be very often). While we can be certain that general running text in an article is going to look a particular way, we have no way to predict what a particular templated condition is going to look like (various templates colorize blocks of text as to background, text color, or both). And these xt-type templates aren't for article text anyway, but generally for use in internal documentation.</p><p>When <code>initial</code> is assigned to a non-inherited propery, like <code>display</code>, it defaults to the CSS spec's default. When <code>initial</code> is assigned to an inherited property like <code>color</code>, it inherits the value most recently defined for that context in the stylesheet stack (if there is one, otherwise it gets the CSS-spec default or perhaps the browser default, if they different, and depending on the browser). There must have been a specific reason that both unset and <code>inherit</code> were not getting the job done properly in this case, but I wouldn't recall what the specifics were after so long. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish\|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish\|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish\|¢]] 😼 </span> 13:12, 8 July 2024 (UTC)</p> == Help:Searching == Hi, I [[Help talk:Searching#Help:Searching#All:\|asked about this]] in the talk page, but no one answered - seeing as you're the one who wrote the original clarification of <code>All:</code> vs <code>all:</code> could you please give that talk section a read? I'd have requested an edit to the page, but I'd rather someone else confirm first. – [[Special:Contributions/2804:F14:809B:301:18CD:9D72:3518:7DDA\|2804:F14:809B:301:18CD:9D72:3518:7DDA]] ([[User talk:2804:F14:809B:301:18CD:9D72:3518:7DDA\|talk]]) 19:21, 7 July 2024 (UTC) :{{ping\|2804:F14:809B:301:18CD:9D72:3518:7DDA}} Answered at [[Help talk:Searching#Help:Searching#All:]]. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish\|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish\|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish\|¢]] 😼 </span> 02:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC) ::Answered your answer. – [[Special:Contributions/2804:F14:809B:301:18CD:9D72:3518:7DDA\|2804:F1...18:7DDA]] ([[User talk:2804:F14:809B:301:18CD:9D72:3518:7DDA\|talk]]) 02:43, 8 July 2024 (UTC)