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== 88th Discord Division ==
 
Bleh. I really don't feel like messing with it right now, but gimme the link and a noping to the author and image and I'll get around to it. I've done a few half assed things in my time, but it's a bit too half assed to just comment on how this should be un-mucked by someone else and leave it. [[User:Timothyjosephwood|<span style="color:#a56d3f;font-family:Impact;">Timothy</span><span style="color:#6f3800;font-family:Impact;">Joseph</span><span style="color:#422501;font-family:Impact;">Wood</span>]] 14:44, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
: I'm doing some leg work. I performed a reverse image search on the image and didn't find anything, so we will have to assume he made it. It's derivative of a PD logo, so he's fine licensing it as cc-by-sa 4.0. I'm looking into his other edits as well; I'll follow up soon. --[[User:Spike Wilbury|Spike Wilbury]] ([[User talk:Spike Wilbury|talk]]) 15:01, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
::Just as well. But if it requires an internationally banned template (honestly I've never seen that one before), then it needs it. It's almost certainly "original", but it's equally certainly derivative, so all the legalese caveats need to come with it. [[User:Timothyjosephwood|<span style="color:#a56d3f;font-family:Impact;">Timothy</span><span style="color:#6f3800;font-family:Impact;">Joseph</span><span style="color:#422501;font-family:Impact;">Wood</span>]] 15:03, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
::: I've started a conversation at [[:Commons:Village_pump/Copyright#Reuse_of_Nazi_symbolism]]. Thanks for your care and attention to this matter. --[[User:Spike Wilbury|Spike Wilbury]] ([[User talk:Spike Wilbury|talk]]) 15:13, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 
== Anas el-Fiqqi ‎==
 
Hello Spike Wilbury,
 
I have recently updated a page reg. Anas El Fiqqi and the content I added was deleted. How can I ensure that my updates are not deleted? I can guarantee it is all accurate information and will be sure to include references when updating it.
 
Thanks,
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: Information about living or recently deceased people must cited reliable sources. None of the content you added was sourced. Please see the note I left on your talk page and [[WP:BLP]] for more information. --[[User:Spike Wilbury|Spike Wilbury]] ([[User talk:Spike Wilbury|talk]]) 10:56, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 
== LK's lead edits ==
 
I see you've argued with LK at [[Talk:Ringo_Starr#.22Musician.22]] about his reductive lead changes; I think it's getting ridiculous. His behavior at [[Kind of Blue]] has forced me to open an RfC there, and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=My_Beautiful_Dark_Twisted_Fantasy&type=revision&diff=779388382&oldid=779368617 edits] like [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kanye_West&diff=prev&oldid=779385670 these] are just obsessive :/ [[User:Dan56|Dan56]] ([[User talk:Dan56|talk]]) 19:10, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
: Hi {{u|Dan56}}, I'm pondering the best course of action here. I'm positive this user believes they are improving articles (and in some places there probably are excessive lists of "occupations" next to people's names) but their behavior grows odd when they encounter disagreement. He has met quite a bit of resistance at Ringo Starr and George Harrison. I'll be interested to see if he continues reverting. --[[User:Spike Wilbury|Spike Wilbury]] ([[User talk:Spike Wilbury|talk]]) 20:13, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 
:: Yep, odd indeed. And [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kind_of_Blue&diff=prev&oldid=779378727 defensive]. [[User:Dan56|Dan56]] ([[User talk:Dan56|talk]]) 21:10, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 
::: Yea, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kind_of_Blue&diff=prev&oldid=779460272 he simply doesn't give a shit]. [[User:Dan56|Dan56]] ([[User talk:Dan56|talk]]) 01:32, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 
:::: He's responded in no way to the RfC, although he oddly added "bio" to the RfC tag ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AKind_of_Blue&type=revision&diff=779460347&oldid=779409166]), when it's an album article. Strange. [[User:Dan56|Dan56]] ([[User talk:Dan56|talk]]) 01:55, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 
::::: He's under no obligation to respond to the RfC, unless of course he resumes edit warring. If he's opening discussions and generally respecting the outcome of those discussions there's not much to be done other than treating it as any other disagreement. If he gets into further edit warring behavior, though, I would consider opening an administrative noticeboard thread about his behavior to get other editor input. To be clear, I would not take any administrative action here since I have been involved in some of the content disagreements, nor do I think the situation has risen to that level. {{u|Lawrencekhoo}}, notifying you as a courtesy that you are being discussed here. --[[User:Spike Wilbury|Spike Wilbury]] ([[User talk:Spike Wilbury|talk]]) 11:33, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 
== Chris Cornell ==
 
Hi Spike. Thanks for all your work on the article and talkpage over the last few days. '''[[User:Lugnuts|<span style="color:#002bb8;">Lugnuts</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Lugnuts|Fire Walk with Me]]</sup> 14:02, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
: You as well! --[[User:Spike Wilbury|Spike Wilbury]] ([[User talk:Spike Wilbury|talk]]) 18:15, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 
== Telecaster Players ==
 
Hi Spike
 
I was just being a wise-ass. I am Matt Montague... <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/98.159.211.37|98.159.211.37]] ([[User talk:98.159.211.37#top|talk]]) 19:42, 14 June 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
: I picked up on that. Happy playing. --[[User:Spike Wilbury|Spike Wilbury]] ([[User talk:Spike Wilbury|talk]]) 19:49, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 
== Thank you ==
 
Hi Spike thank you for the welcome. I have used the site so long, looking forward to being able to contribute within my expertise.
 
== re Mimi Fox changes ==
 
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== KLF edits ==
 
Disappointed by your edits.
The signing started at 23 SECONDS past midnight at the NEWS FROM NOWHERE bookstore.
The book signing was the start of a three day event called Welcome To The Dark Ages, attended by 400 volunteers aka The 400.
This is supported by the provided sources.
The edits corrected, enhanced and expanded. [[User:Badgerkullcentral|Badgerkullcentral]] ([[User talk:Badgerkullcentral|talk]]) 19:19, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
 
Below are two sources that support my additions.
 
https://www.bidolito.co.uk/jams/
 
 
http://www.superweirdsubstance.com/jams-klf-dark-ages/
 
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== Quering your reversion of my edit to Geddy Lee ==
 
It's no big deal, but I'm wondering why you reverted the edit where I added [[Geddy Lee]] to [[:Category:Canadian collectors]]. Your edit summary, "Meaning what?" means nothing, ironically.
 
He's Canadian and he collects things. That's what the category is for – it's as simple as that. The category is not meant to be reserved for people known ''primarily'' as collectors, if that's what you were thinking. He's also currently listed as a notable collector in article [[collecting]], and whereas I don't necessarily agree that he ought to be so listed, I don't care enough to make that call. That someone listed as a notable collector should fail to be included in some subcategory of [[:Category:Collectors]] was a discrepency, which I fixed. [[Special:Contributions/121.45.72.211|121.45.72.211]] ([[User talk:121.45.72.211|talk]]) 13:45, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
 
: I meant that it should be properly diffused into a subcategory, because nothing gets placed in that level. Sorry I wasn't more clear. --[[User:Spike Wilbury|Spike Wilbury]] ([[User talk:Spike Wilbury|talk]]) 14:00, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
 
::If you look at [[:Category:Collectors by nationality]] there are several that contain only one or a few people. "Canadian collectors" is not marked as a container category. He could just go in [[:Category:Collectors]] but as far as I know there's no principled reason why more members thereof aren't diffused into national subcategories; I think it's just that few people have bothered. [[Special:Contributions/121.45.72.211|121.45.72.211]] ([[User talk:121.45.72.211|talk]]) 14:25, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
 
::: You're correct, my apologies. --[[User:Spike Wilbury|Spike Wilbury]] ([[User talk:Spike Wilbury|talk]]) 17:24, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
 
== The Byrds ==
 
SpikeWilbury, I thought it'd be better to use the typical timeline colors (blue for bass). Sorry about the problems but I feel the other colors are distracting. [[User:EPBeatles|EPBeatles]] ([[User talk:EPBeatles|talk]]) 19:44, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
: You're supposed to discuss your changes on the Talk page. Others have disagreed with you, and for most of these pages there is a long-standing consensus on how the timeline should look. Please discuss instead of repeatedly pushing your preferences. --[[User:Spike Wilbury|Spike Wilbury]] ([[User talk:Spike Wilbury|talk]]) 20:20, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 
Will do. [[User:EPBeatles|EPBeatles]] ([[User talk:EPBeatles|talk]]) 20:53, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 
== Jimi Hendrix edit ==
 
Hello Spike
 
May I ask what was wrong with the correction I made? It originally said that the Jimi Hendrix single "Hey Joe" was released on October 23, 1966, which was obviously wrong because records are simply not released on Sundays. I already knew the correct date was December 16th 1966 anyway (a far more feasible Friday) and I provided a link to confirm that fact. In what way did it not conform to Wikipedia's verifiability policy?
 
If I see any glaring errors like that on any website, my first instinct is to correct them no matter what I have to do in order to achieve that. If that particular error is not corrected by me I may ask a friend to correct it instead. I don't mind as long as it is corrected. I just can't stand to see such obvious errors going uncorrected.
 
Regards
 
[[User:ZebedyZak|ZebedyZak]] ([[User talk:ZebedyZak|talk]]) 19:41, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
 
: Hi, it may seem to be an obvious error to you, but we have a policy that things must be verifiable by reliable sources. The source you provided is a database that looks to be built on user submissions. That wouldn't meet our definition of a reliable source. If you can provide a citation to a reliable music publication that verifies this date, we can change it. --[[User:Spike Wilbury|Spike Wilbury]] ([[User talk:Spike Wilbury|talk]]) 22:31, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
 
== Bob Seger and the Eagles ==
 
The relationship is cited on Frey's and Seger's wikipedia pages. Why is that not enough?
[[User:Bob Caldwell CSL|Bob Caldwell CSL]] ([[User talk:Bob Caldwell CSL|talk]]) 16:59, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
: How would I, or any other reader know that? Citations to reliable sources need to be in the relevant article and we can't rely on the reader clicking away to find them in related articles. Additionally, infoboxes should never house content that's not discussed and cited within the same article. Infoboxes are summaries of information, not to contain unique information. Before reinserting that, you would need to compose substantive text for the Eagles article detailing why the relationship is notable enough to mention in the infobox, complete with citations to reliable sources. --[[User:Spike Wilbury|Spike Wilbury]] ([[User talk:Spike Wilbury|talk]]) 19:03, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
 
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== Dispute resolution ==
 
How can I finally solve this dispute then? I mean, it is pretty obvious that there isn't going to any more discussion in the talk page, also, the users claimed that considering Communism a Totalitarian and Authoritarian ideology is somehow only a point of view, and that as such, it violated the NPOV rule, I was thinking on starting an RfC but the glossary states the following:
 
"Remember that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia; all articles must follow the Neutral point of view, Verifiability, and No original research policies."
 
So, unless I misinterpreted this really badly, or considering Communism totalitarian and authoritarian isn't merely a point of view, what can I do to solve this dispute? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Pedro8790|Pedro8790]] ([[User talk:Pedro8790#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pedro8790|contribs]]) 00:39, 19 May 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
== This guy is using Wikipedia to spread his christian/right-wing opinions ==
 
Please take a look at [[User:RexMiles]].
 
Examples:
* https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wedding&diff=prev&oldid=838919465
* https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Communism&diff=842501283&oldid=841332822
* https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Existence_of_God&diff=784915456&oldid=783788004
* https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Creation%E2%80%93evolution_controversy&diff=826949473&oldid=826736978 <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/93.188.100.47|93.188.100.47]] ([[User talk:93.188.100.47#top|talk]]) 18:53, 28 July 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
== Student editing ==
 
About your note [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard%2FIncidents&type=revision&diff=858942608&oldid=858942566 here], I'd be happy to hear about any specific concerns you have, and hope that you will also be open to hearing about how to better prepare students for editing Wikipedia. We can talk via skype or google hangouts as well, if you like. You can reply here if would prefer to do this on-wiki. I will see it. [[User:Jytdog|Jytdog]] ([[User talk:Jytdog|talk]]) 17:37, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
:btw I just [http://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/editorinteract.py?users=Spike+Wilbury&users=Jytdog&users=&startdate=&enddate=&ns=&server=enwiki checked] and as far as i can see (which matches my memory) we have never interacted before. [[User:Jytdog|Jytdog]] ([[User talk:Jytdog|talk]]) 17:51, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
:: No, we've never interacted. I'm boots on the ground at this point. I spend most of my time engaging with students and faculty to ensure that students are properly prepared for what they'll encounter when editing here. I also try to head off the biggest objections people have historically had to using Wikipedia as a teaching tool (and subsequently grooming and encouraging our next generation of editors) like making sure they don't run afoul of MEDRS etc. They're more typically intimidated and discouraged off the project and edit just long enough to complete their coursework. I'd be happy to chat sometime. --[[User:Spike Wilbury|Spike Wilbury]] ([[User talk:Spike Wilbury|talk]]) 18:03, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
:::As you will. My gmail is jydogwiki @ gmail, if you ever want to.... [[User:Jytdog|Jytdog]] ([[User talk:Jytdog|talk]]) 01:37, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
 
== Channel Awesome ==
In an effort to maintain clarity, I must ask once again that if you have issues with the sources, please take them to the talk page of the article. To accuse me of being in any way affiliated with Channel Awesome is just as asinine as me accusing you of trying to attempt to block information on their behalf. I would like to treated with the same respect I intend to treat you with rather than throwing out baseless accusations. Please join the discussion on the talk page. Thank you. - [[User:D33deed33guy‎|D33deed33guy‎]] <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 01:46, 12 September 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I will re-add the information but with more appropriate sources if that is the case. This information is well documented enough to be relevant to the section of the page. I have been editing under a different username because I have only recently reacquired access to this account as I had forgotten my password a few years back. It is not "proof of affiliation". It would be the equivalent of me accusing you of being affiliated with George Harrison or Kingman, Arizona. I will find better sources so the information may be re-added. In the meantime, I would advise you to head over to Donald Trump's Wikipedia article as there is a considerable amount of social media being sourced there and that seems to spike your interest. --D33deed33guy 18:51, 12 September 2018 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:D33deed33guy|D33deed33guy]] ([[User talk:D33deed33guy#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/D33deed33guy|contribs]]) </small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
== Why ==
 
Why did you remove psychedelia as a genre for the Beatles? Do you have a problem with that? I take it you only care about the innocent and "wholesome" pop and rock aspects of the music in the early days. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Word dewd544|Word dewd544]] ([[User talk:Word dewd544#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Word dewd544|contribs]]) 01:55, 12 October 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: There is an existing consensus to list only rock and pop in the infobox. If you want to change that you should start a discussion on the article talk page. --[[User:Spike Wilbury|Spike Wilbury]] ([[User talk:Spike Wilbury|talk]]) 14:13, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
 
== Help with an involved editor formally closing an RfC ==
 
{{u|Walter Görlitz}} has formally closed this RfC: [[Talk:Boy_(album)#RfC:_Should_two_scores_from_Rolling_Stone,_from_the_same_year,_be_included_in_the_ratings_box?]]. The votes were 4 to 2, and he was one of the involved voters/comments; in fact he has been involved in the original content dispute and previous discussion that led to me opening the RfC. The RfC tag expired [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ABoy_%28album%29&type=revision&diff=867610419&oldid=866939021 16:01, 6 November 2018], and he [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Boy_(album)&diff=next&oldid=867610419 formally closed it with a summary explaining his preference]. I reverted this, and relisted the RfC, and he reverted me. And similar to his behavior at a discussion in the recent past ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AHere_%28Alicia_Keys_album%29&type=revision&diff=860141825&oldid=860139795 where you reprimanded him]), he has been [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ABoy_%28album%29&type=revision&diff=869169922&oldid=869160725 threatening me with a topic ban again]. As I explained in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ABoy_%28album%29&type=revision&diff=869178268&oldid=869169922 this edit summary], the guidelines state "If the matter under discussion is not contentious and the consensus is obvious to the participants, then formal closure is neither necessary nor advisable." And that if it is contentious anyway, an involved editor is not the person to formally close the RfC ([[WP:CLOSE#Closure procedure]]) As usual, he has been tone-deaf to what I say. [[User:Dan56|Dan56]] ([[User talk:Dan56|talk]]) 22:39, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
: Not a threat, a suggestion. I've take it to ANI. Cheers. [[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 22:42, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
 
: {{u|Dan56}}, was this worked out to your satisfaction? I'm amazed people continue to throw around topic bans as the solution to these types of issues. I suppose if you and Walter avoid each other, that's for the best. --[[User:Spike Wilbury|Spike Wilbury]] ([[User talk:Spike Wilbury|talk]]) 14:36, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:: Yes, I believe it is resolved. [[User:Dan56|Dan56]] ([[User talk:Dan56|talk]]) 14:41, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
 
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== Disruptive user ==
 
Hey Spike Wilbury, you blocked user [[User talk:HughMorris15|HughMorris15]] in [[User talk:HughMorris15#October 2017|October 2017]] for unsourced changes, using misleading edit summaries, and disregarding the Manual of Style. I believe this user is still doing the same type of edits a year on. I've reverted 3 of their edits today and added back content that was removed without any mention in the edit summary.
 
I have warned the user on their talk page with a "uw-delete1" template and i've also asked that they review [[WP:NOTBROKE]]. <span style=" background: #fff; font-weight: 700; padding: 1px 4px; margin: 0px 3px 0px 0px; border: 2px solid #000; box-shadow: 3px 3px #000;">[[User talk:Vistadan|Vistadan]]</span> 16:30, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
 
== WikiProject Zoo - newsletter No.3 -2018 ==
 
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== Your 10/31/19 deletion of edited caption in George Harrison article and reversion to caption incorrectly describing Beatles as wearing "Indian" clothing ==
 
Per Wikipedia article "The Fool (design collective)" . . .
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fool_(design_collective)
 
. . . "The Fool's best known artworks are those they created for the Beatles in 1966–67. They include: . . . the clothes worn in the "I Am the Walrus" segment of the 1967 film Magical Mystery Tour television film;"
 
Photo in the following article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_Mystery_Tour_(film) . . .
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_Mystery_Tour_(film)#/media/File:The_Beatles_magical_mystery_tour.jpg
 
. . . shows the Beatles wearing the clothes described in the edited caption.
 
==
 
https://blog.fidmmuseum.org/museum/2016/12/the-beatles-and-apple-boutique.html#_ftnref9
 
As George Harrison put it, “The Apple Boutique started as an excellent idea…what we were trying to do was to sell all the stuff that we liked.”[6] John Lennon wanted it to be “cheap, but good quality.”[7] In addition to clothes, they sold books, jewelry, music, spiritual objects, instruments, paintings, and furniture – “a Garden of Eden for lovers of hip clothes and all the trappings of a beautiful life.”[8] The Beatles selected Amsterdam artistic collective The Fool to design the clothing and shop interiors. They had previously worked with the four Dutch designers on a televised “All You Need is Love” performance and The Beatles Magical Mystery Tour film.[9]
 
==
 
>Footnote 9 cites--:
Paolo Hewitt, Fab Gear: The Beatles and Fashion (Munich: Prestel, 2011) p. 127
 
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OTHER CITATIONS--:
 
https://dangerousminds.net/comments/the_fool_the_dutch_artists_who_worked_for_the_beatles_and_made_their_own_fr
 
Although you can see Marijke and Simon’s fashions on the Beatles during the “I am the Walrus” sequence in Magical Mystery Tour
 
http://dandyinaspic.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-fool-beatles-and-story-of-apple.html
 
http://born-late.blogspot.com/2011/04/fool-and-his-money.html
 
https://www.amazon.com/Electrical-Banana-Masters-Psychedelic-Art/dp/8862082045
 
How, then, to explain Marijke Koger, member of the design collective the Fool (which created, for instance, the costumes for the Magical Mystery Tour film)
 
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o The previous caption, now reverted, is factually incorrect and misleading to Wikipedia readers. No source is cited for the claim that the clothing the Beatles were wearing was "Indian." The reason no source is cited is that the clothing was not in fact "Indian."
 
o The edited caption is factually correct and provides useful information to Wikipedia readers. The clothes in the Magical Mystery Tour film, from which the still photo was taken, were unquestionably designed (and, in fact, made) by The Fool design collective, which deserves credit (keeping in mind that two of its members are alive and still active at an advanced age, and, having limited means, would benefit from not having their creativity and originality more than half a century ago ignored by Wikipedia).
 
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How do you suggest we proceed?
 
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I cited authoritative website as source for correction of caption of still from Magical Mystery Tour. Thanks for your help!
 
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