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I placed the ranks to show what level they hold in terms of ministerial seniority. Then there's also the appointments eg [[Minister for Defence Procurement]] and [[Minister of State for the Armed Forces]] which are the responsibilities they hold. Under those pages, they show the post holder, regardless if they were PUSS or Min of State. Those holding these appointments for example, can alternate or be promoted. [[Philip Dunne (Ludlow MP)]] for example was a Min State (I believe) for Defence Procurement, then Harriet Baldwin took the appointment but as a PUSS. It switches in every reshuffle. Feel free to rank them accordingly but I think it's best to show both rank and appointment and commons first, lords last. I'm not an expert on the formatting so thanks for the labelling.▼

Finding out who's responsible for what is a mystery with news and gov.uk not updating properly.▼

[[User:BlueD954|BlueD954]] ([[User talk:BlueD954|talk]]) 06:01, 16 February 2020 (UTC)▼

:Hi [[User:BlueD954|BlueD954]], thanks for getting back to me. It's just that previously that page had integrated the offices as one piece of information so the role was Minister of State for Middle East & North Africa instead of Minister for Middle East & North Africa, Minister of State. I had followed this format because it seemed more concise as it coalesced the information into a single piece. Also I'd like to clarify what you mean when you write that you want to put rank and appointment first. Obviously rank means Secretary of State, Minister of State etc but what do you mean by appointment?▼

:I'd also like to agree with you on how it's been difficult to find information. I've been using [https://www.gov.uk/government/news/latest-updates-on-ministerial-appointments-13-february-2020 Ministerial appointments: February 2020] for most of my information.▼