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Line 2: {{/header}} ==Indefinitely pending-protected pages by an inactive user== ~~== I've updated the British govt frontbench page ==~~ I made requests in the previous month in the hopes of anyone addressing my statements, to say the least. However, those requests, including [[swimming (disambiguation)]], have been discarded with no input from admins due to a user who persistently insists that I am an affiliate of a telly-vandal who appears to live in the same range as I am. [[special:diff/1225308652\|These were my reasons for unprotection]].[[Special:Contributions/102.156.121.163\|102.156.121.163]] ([[User talk:102.156.121.163\|talk]]) 15:22, 11 June 2024 (UTC) :Given what happened [[Special:Permalink/1225130741#baseball bat, cyanide, ultrasound and Yuri Gagarin\|the last time I answered your requests at RfPP]] (the lack of disruption afterwards suggests that you aren't asking for the articles to be unprotected so that you can disrupt them), I will take you at your word that you aren't them. This is also taking [[Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Television vandal from Tunisia\|the LTA page]] into account. Unprotected, given the general lack of activity and disruption (FYI: {{u\|Favonian}} and {{u\|Ohnoitsjamie}}). [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 02:25, 12 June 2024 (UTC) ~~https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Government_frontbench~~ :: Personally I agree with Favonian that we shouldn't be wasting our time processing requests from a likely sock, but on the other hand I don't particularly care whether or not swimming is protected at this time. If this user starts filling up RFPP again with pointless requests I will likely block them however. <b>[[User:Ohnoitsjamie\|OhNo<span style="color: #D47C14;">itsJamie</span>]] [[User talk:Ohnoitsjamie\|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 02:44, 12 June 2024 (UTC) :::Honestly typing, that is what I planned to do in the future, but compiling the pages in one edit [[special:diff/1224351849\|like this one]], nonetheless excluding media-related articles given the fact that the LTA case in my region being prevalent. But seriously, I was making requests mainly because of two reasons: 1)Page protector is inactive, and 2)Page is protected long enough (provided that it doesn't have a lengthy list of protection history). Why are you considering my case "pointless"? If you believe they are "pointless", then why did you accept my request for unprotecting [[pool (cue sports)]] in the first place?[[Special:Contributions/102.156.121.163\|102.156.121.163]] ([[User talk:102.156.121.163\|talk]]) 07:14, 12 June 2024 (UTC) :::{{re\|Ohnoitsjamie}} These requests are pretty valid from a policy point of view and are not what I would call pointless (I could get that perspective if they were requesting semi-protection removals for redirects, but these are "live" pages that have very little need for continued protection). I hope that the link between the LTA and these IPs isn't just being made because they're from Tunisia, given that this IP doesn't fit into the behavioural clues listed at the LTA page regarding lack of communication. [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 15:43, 12 June 2024 (UTC) ::::Not only "lacking communication skills", but also persistent reverts. Users might have mistaken me an LTA user by accounting my reverts to [[special:diff/225159203\|this edit]] as well as [[special:diff/1224082347\|this edit]]. I am currently decreasing my activity for a while, as a means of accepting the [[wp:so]], provided that one of my ranges is meant to be blocked for 3 months. ::::I find out that negotiating issues with experienced editors interesting. However, there is one thing I intend to avoid but also uncertain if I am ever commiting it (if it is, I am sorry to type this) and that is: [[wp:hounding]]. I understand such behaviour leads to serious consequences/sanctions, but how can anyone tell if I am ever commiting it? (see also [[user talk:el C]])[[Special:Contributions/102.156.121.163\|102.156.121.163]] ([[User talk:102.156.121.163\|talk]]) 16:47, 12 June 2024 (UTC) ::I realized you did not remove or shorten protection from one of the pages. Since I have made that request again at [[user talk:lectonar]], I am unlikely that I would request that again given that he explained why indefinite protection is still necessary, albeit being protected for over five years.[[Special:Contributions/102.156.121.163\|102.156.121.163]] ([[User talk:102.156.121.163\|talk]]) 07:14, 12 June 2024 (UTC) :::I assume that this is about [[Special:Permalink/1228598107#Protection of Big Brother series\|the ''Big Brother'' articles]]. I don't really agree with that (I'm biased, but I think that [[Special:Permalink/1224388988#All Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards ceremonies articles between 2005 and 2018\|my solution of introducing time limits]] for the Nickelodeon awards worked out all right), but I'll defer to {{u\|Lectonar\|him}} on this. [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 15:43, 12 June 2024 (UTC) ::::The difference being that you down-protected almost all of them from semi to pending (actually that's also my take, downgrade to pending with time-limit, to evaluate the effect of it) whereas the Big brother ones are ''only'' pending changes protected to start with, afaics, and are still experiencing disruption on a lower level. [[User:Lectonar\|Lectonar]] ([[User talk:Lectonar\|talk]]) 07:19, 13 June 2024 (UTC) :::::True, but when there are on average only two reverted edits by non-autoconfirmed users in the past year, the need for continued protection is not as pronounced. [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 21:51, 13 June 2024 (UTC) ::::Presently, the 2024 edition is experiencing dubious edits, albeit once protected for a week, earlier this month. What can you do?[[Special:Contributions/102.159.182.25\|102.159.182.25]] ([[User talk:102.159.182.25\|talk]]) 12:39, 22 June 2024 (UTC) :::::I'm wary that protection will be interpreted as an endorsement of a side in the [[Special:Diff/1229532681\|only]]/[[Special:Diff/1230108331\|first]] argument (and it should not be interpreted as such), but will place [[2024 Kids' Choice Awards]] under pending changes for two weeks. [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 02:54, 24 June 2024 (UTC) ==DYK nomination of Better Off Dead?== [[File:Symbol question.svg\|25px]] Hello! Your submission of [[Better Off Dead?]] at the [[Template talk:DYK\|Did You Know nominations page]] has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at '''[[Template:Did you know nominations/Better Off Dead?\|your nomination's entry]]''' and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! <!--Template:DYKproblem--> [[user:ltbdl\|ltb]][[user:ltbdl/d\|<span style="color:orange">d</span>]][[user:ltbdl\|l]] ([[user talk:ltbdl\|talk]]) 02:07, 12 June 2024 (UTC) == ? == ~~https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ministerial-appointments-november-2023~~ Im sorry but what exactly did your remove from my user page?? [[User:RegierungDavidlands1852\|RegierungDavidlands1852]] ([[User talk:RegierungDavidlands1852\|talk]]) 10:09, 5 July 2024 (UTC) ~~Can you check?~~ :Hi, {{u\|RegierungDavidlands1852}}. I removed some personal information from your user page, including information about your location. The material was [[WP:OS\|suppressed]], meaning that the information was removed from public view, with administrators also unable to access it (only [[WP:OS#Users with oversight permissions\|members of the Oversight team]] can).{{pb}}This was done to prevent possible harassment; you may find [[WP:OPCAD#Harassment related to personal information\|this]] useful. As there is still some personal information on your user page, you may want to remove some of that too after reading the link above. [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 23:41, 5 July 2024 (UTC) ~~[[User:TShape12\|TShape12]] ([[User talk:TShape12\|talk]]) 12:21, 14 November 2023 (UTC)~~ :Hi, [[User:TShape12\|TShape12]]. It looks good; I've [[Special:Diff/1185085754\|added Aaron Bell and fixed a formatting error]]. [https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2023/nov/14/conservative-tory-cabinet-reshuffle-rishi-sunak-esther-mcvey-anti-woke-minister-david-cameron-uk-politics-live ''The Guardian''] has reported that the reshuffle doesn't seem complete yet (see 10:25 and 10:43 GMT), so perhaps there'll be more changes later. [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 13:28, 14 November 2023 (UTC) ~~:: Yup added new Lords see https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ministerial-appointments-november-2023 [[User:TShape12\|TShape12]] ([[User talk:TShape12\|talk]]) 06:54, 15 November 2023 (UTC)~~ ~~== Undeletion request ==~~ Would you undelete [[Template:Editnotices/Page/Deleted to make way for page move]]? [[WP:G8\|G8]] "excludes any page that is useful to Wikipedia", and I believe the editnotice is useful. Of course, I am open to any feedback if what I wrote in the editnotice is inaccurate. [[User:SilverLocust\|<small style="color:#667;background:white;border:2px solid;border-radius:4px;padding:0 4px">SilverLocust</small>]] [[User talk:SilverLocust\|💬]] 00:00, 16 November 2023 (UTC) :I will, {{u\|SilverLocust}}, but because the lead of [[WP:CSD]] allows the creator of a page to remove G8 tags, implying that they should be refunded at their request. I think that the broad exclusion of "any page that is useful to Wikipedia" is nebulous and I view the [[Special:Permalink/1184640052#G8\|current list of examples]] to be pretty exhaustive. [[Deleted to make way for page move]] is unsalted, so the page was eligible for deletion under G8. Given the [[Special:Permalink/1184034786#Deleted to make way for page move\|discussion at RfPP that led to its deletion]], this is to let you know, {{u\|NmWTfs85lXusaybq}}. For what it's worth, SilverLocust, I think that the editnotice is accurate, though a similar solution to what is used at {{no redirect\|Draft:Move}} may work too (though that would of course prevent people moving the page there). [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 01:02, 16 November 2023 (UTC) ::I think those express the same point: (1) that anyone (including the creator) can object and remove the G8, and (2) that it is enough for G8 that someone believes that it is "useful to Wikipedia". See, e.g., Thryduulf's comment at [[Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion/Archive 74#Exception to rule G8]]. ::On your [[Draft:Move]] suggestion, I'm not sure where [[Deleted to make way for page move]] would redirect. ([[WP:DELV]]? [[WP:RMCI#Edit history of destination page]]?) Plus [[WP:CNR\|redirects from main space to project space]] are controversial. ::Thanks, [[User:SilverLocust\|<small style="color:#667;background:white;border:2px solid;border-radius:4px;padding:0 4px">SilverLocust</small>]] [[User talk:SilverLocust\|💬]] 02:43, 16 November 2023 (UTC) :::I agree on the first point, which is why {{logid\|155297268\|I restored it}}, but I don't on the second. The relevant G8 point covering this deletion ("Unused editnotices of non-existent or unsalted deleted pages") seems to have been written specifically to include this situation. From an editorial view, given that [[Deleted to make way for page move]] has only been used twice, I think that the necessity to have an editnotice is debatable. I'm not sure on the [[Draft:Move]] possibilities; it was just an idea I was floating. Anyways, thanks for the message {{smiley}}. [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 15:58, 16 November 2023 (UTC) ~~== Protection ==~~ Dear Sdrqaz, Can you added Extended confirmed protection on my [[User talk:Aviram7/Editnotice]] ; per my humble request in userspace, This most important for me. I don't need more edit on this editnotice.If you feel confortable about that.Thnx :) ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7\|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>\|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7\|(tαlk)]]</span> 15:30, 19 November 2023 (UTC) :Hi, {{u\|Aviram7}}. Can I ask why? I created my talk page's editnotice {{logid\|116842202\|two-and-a-half years ago}} and nobody else has edited it since; I think it is unlikely that someone else will change your editnotice too. If it's purely [[WP:PREEMPTIVE\|pre-emptive]], then [[WP:UPROT\|the policy on user page protections states that it should not be done]]. [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 20:21, 19 November 2023 (UTC) ~~== Request ==~~ Dear Sdrqaz, there is an article named [[Climate Change in South Sudan]] that you deleted, there was no time for to explain what really happened. I tried to explain but all in vine. Here is my side of the story That day I woke up and Planned to write an article about [[Climate change in South Sudan]], but at first, I confused Sudan and South Sudan and added edits supposed to be for Climate Change in South Sudan on the [[Climate change in Sudan]] article so I had to revert my changes. A user called FuzzyMagma got the content I had put in that article and created a separate article meanwhile I had the Climate change in South Sudan article in my Sandbox so after working on my article, I published it to the main space and was just deleted, I understand the role but such an article takes a lot of efforts to write so instead of deleting it, i would have been asked to move the content to the article the other user had created. So my request is please if i could have access to the article I had written then i can move that content. I have written Several aricles in that line like [[Climate change in Uganda]], [[Climate change in Zimbabwe]], [[Climate change in Namibia]]. hope my request can granted. Thank you advance. [[User:Micheal Kaluba\|Micheal Kaluba]] ([[User talk:Micheal Kaluba\|talk]]) 17:49, 19 November 2023 (UTC) :Hi, [[User:Micheal Kaluba\|Micheal]]. I {{logid\|154836891\|deleted that article}} because while you had content there, you removed it all (part of what you had written can be found {{logid\|154836557\|here}}). The article with your work in it was actually deleted by {{u\|Sarahj2107}}. Sarah, would you be willing to restore those revisions (the ones up to and including 17:59, 8 November 2023) for Micheal, either in the mainspace or in their userspace? [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 20:21, 19 November 2023 (UTC) :Hi [[User:Micheal Kaluba\|Micheal]], I have undeleted the article for you and moved it to [[User:Micheal Kaluba/sandbox/Climate change in South Sudan]]. I have had to remove some of the content as it's a [[WP:copyright violation\|copyright violation]], please do not add this back in. Also, as there is now an article on [[Climate change in South Sudan]] you can use the content in you're userspace to add to it but please don't move your draft back to mainspace as it will create a duplicate article. [[User:Sarahj2107\|Sarahj2107]] ([[User talk:Sarahj2107\|talk]]) 20:44, 19 November 2023 (UTC) ~~::Thanks! [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 03:08, 20 November 2023 (UTC)~~ ~~::Thank you so much Sdrqaz [[User:Micheal Kaluba\|Micheal Kaluba]] ([[User talk:Micheal Kaluba\|talk]]) 05:48, 20 November 2023 (UTC)~~ ~~== Verification and notability ==~~ <s>Wikipedia is not the place to add unsourced gossip about middle schoolers. Do not add it like you did at [[Dubuque Community School District]]. [[User:Mitch199811\|<span style="color: goldenrod">✶Mitch</span>]][[User talk:Mitch199811\|<span style="color: goldenrod">199811</span>]][[special:contributions/Mitch199811\|<span style="color: goldenrod">✶</span>]] 17:58, 19 November 2023 (UTC)</s> :Sorry, I accidentally got the wrong user. [[User:Mitch199811\|<span style="color: goldenrod">✶Mitch</span>]][[User talk:Mitch199811\|<span style="color: goldenrod">199811</span>]][[special:contributions/Mitch199811\|<span style="color: goldenrod">✶</span>]] 18:11, 19 November 2023 (UTC) ~~::That's fine {{smiley}}. Thanks for [[Special:Diff/1185899494/prev\|removing that information]]. [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 20:21, 19 November 2023 (UTC)~~ ~~==Deleton Of Article==~~ ~~Hi. You once deleted an article I wrote. You cited that the individual may not be well known, and thus does not deserve a Wikipedia page.~~ ~~Kindly note that, big reputable blogs rarely ever publish detailed reports about some certain individuals. We have to make do of what little references we can get hands on.~~ ~~Kindly advice on the best way I can go about this so subsequent articles I write can be published successfully.~~ Thank you for your time and intellect. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures\|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Haroldwonder\|Haroldwonder]] ([[User talk:Haroldwonder#top\|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Haroldwonder\|contribs]]) 22:52, 19 November 2023 (UTC)</small> :Hello, Harold. I deleted [[John Ida Paul]] because the article [[WP:A7\|did not say why he was important]]. While the article spoke about his education and personal life, as well as his professional career, it did not mention why he is different to the millions of engineers we have in the world. I think that something to remember is that articles on the English Wikipedia need to be [[WP:N\|notable]], which generally means [[WP:GNG\|having independent reliable sources cover them in detail]].{{pb}}You're absolutely right that some things simply don't get as much attention than others. Wikipedia, unfortunately, mostly reflects the biases of the world around it{{snd}}it relies on other sources having covered topics before it covers them. The project, however, tries to work against these biases by having subject-specific notability guidelines, such as [[WP:NACADEMIC\|the one for academics and professors]]. In the future, you may prefer to use the [[WP:AfC\|Articles for Creation process]], as they have many editors who can review drafts and give you advice on what can be improved. If they think that the subject has a good chance of being notable, they may publish the draft for you. I hope that this helps. [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 03:08, 20 November 2023 (UTC) ~~== November thanks ==~~ ~~{{User QAIbox~~ ~~\| title = [[User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2023#4 Nov\|November songs]]~~ ~~\| image = Bittersweet, Mohegan Lake.jpg~~ ~~\| image_upright = 1.3~~ ~~\| bold = [[User:Gerda Arendt/Top\|story]] · [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#Music\|music]]~~ }} Thank you for standing to become arbitrator! My [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#22 Nov\|story today]] is '''[[Canticle I: My beloved is mine and I am his]]''', - the composer, born OTD 110 years ago, didn't want it shorter (but the publisher), - [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#DYK for Canticle I: My beloved is mine and I am his\|more here]]. -- [[User:Gerda Arendt\|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt\|talk]]) 10:57, 22 November 2023 (UTC) :I was happy to serve, {{u\|Gerda Arendt\|Gerda}} {{smiley}}. Nice, peaceful photos there{{snd}}seems like you didn't encounter the "[[Ibiza#Nightlife\|well-known and at times riotous nightclub-based nightlife]]". Good to see that [[Special:Permalink/1186246075#Britten's birthday, 22 November\|you got it on the Main Page in time]]. [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 20:18, 22 November 2023 (UTC) :: Thank you. Writing about a Britten composition for his birthday has become a tradition ;) - Thank you for a reply to my cand question. I may discuss it after tomorrow's concert when we will sing the Mozart and listen to Pärt's [[Da pacem Domine (Pärt)\|urgent call for peace]] played by the strings, - I'm not in the mood before ;) - I mentioned [[Pärt]] for a reason, could have been [[Beethoven]] as well, in other words: I believe it's time for a fresh look, as [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2013-07-10/Dispatches\|we were told 10 years ago]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt\|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt\|talk]]) 23:34, 25 November 2023 (UTC) ~~:: The concert was good, [[User Talk:Gerda Arendt#Mozart Requiem]] --[[User:Gerda Arendt\|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt\|talk]]) 23:09, 26 November 2023 (UTC)~~ :::Great to hear that, [[User:Gerda Arendt\|Gerda]]. I'm intrigued by [[:File:Glass harp player, El Retiro, Madrid.jpg\|the glass harp you photographed]]{{snd}}I've seen people making sounds from glasses, but never as a whole instrument with various pitches{{snd}}as well as that article by Brian (I hadn't seen it before). [[:File:Almudena Cathedral, side entrance, Madrid.jpg\|Blue hour]] really is something too: strangely majestic yet mysterious{{nbsp}}... I admire writing and [[Special:Diff/1186857142/1186924590\|singing in tribute]], as it adds so much meaning to what we do. [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 03:18, 27 November 2023 (UTC) :::: Thank you! I was recently intrigued by [[Vivi Vassileva\|an artist playing on pitched flower pots]] (and plenty of other recycled material), with a symphony orchestra. - Brian came up with a compromise for [[Percy Grainger\|his featured article]] right after the first infoboxes case, on my talk. - Today I remember my other hero, [[Jerome Kohl]] who was one of the first people I met on Wikipedia, helping me to understand that we should not write what a source says when the source is wrong (see [[Talk:Siegfried Palm#Palm and Stockhausen]] in 2009. He would revert infoboxes (for people, while adding them for compositions), but for years we had good conversations about other matters, including [[User talk:Jerome Kohl\|life and death]] (linked there: [[User talk:Jerome Kohl/Archive 6#In Freundschaft]]). ''That'' would be be the best way towards peace: accepting each other as people, not warriors. --[[User:Gerda Arendt\|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt\|talk]]) 07:50, 27 November 2023 (UTC) :::::Ah, interesting. Having watched [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svktDXNGpVU some of her work] thanks to you, it's really great what can be achieved with such a variety of household items: a good example of [[upcycling]]. I do enjoy [[:File:Malbach valley autumn colours, Ehrenbach.jpg\|those walks too]] {{smiley}}. [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 03:17, 28 November 2023 (UTC) ~~:::::: Thank you! 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It would be remiss for me if I didn't mention that {{u\|SilverLocust}} was [[Special:Diff/1154204535\|responsible for the information]] on in-chambers opinions, though {{smiley}}. Yours, [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 03:17, 28 November 2023 (UTC) ::Then let's keep him in the loop as well. Incidentally, one of you may have seen some of my off-wiki work on this subject, such as my writings [http://journaloflaw.us/10%20JICP/JICP_home.html here] (I'm Ira Matetsky). Regards, [[User:Newyorkbrad\|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad\|talk]]) 03:48, 28 November 2023 (UTC) :::{{Reply\|Newyorkbrad}} I certainly read some of those articles (and relied on the journal's compilation of opinions) when I added a list to the [[in-chambers opinion#List of in-chambers opinions since 1990\|in-chambers opinion]] article in May (which links to JICP in note b). (Hopefully someone has found that list helpful. Alas, [https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2022-11-06&end=2023-11-26&pages=In-chambers_opinion page-view statistics] don't show a very large Wikipedia readership for ICOs or similar inside-baseball SCOTUS stuff like [[dismissed as improvidently granted\|DIG]]s and [[grant, vacate, remand\|GVR]]s — or even more newsworthy things like [[nationwide injunction]]s.) [[User:SilverLocust\|<small style="color:#667;background:white;border:2px solid;border-radius:4px;padding:0 4px">SilverLocust</small>]] [[User talk:SilverLocust\|💬]] 05:17, 28 November 2023 (UTC) ~~== December music ==~~ ~~{{User QAIbox~~ ~~\| title = [[User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2023#19 Dec\|December songs]]~~ ~~\| image = Ehrenbach, plum tree with frost.jpg~~ ~~\| image_upright = 1.3~~ ~~\| bold = [[User:Gerda Arendt/Top\|story]] · [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#Music\|music]]~~ }} [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#2 Dec\|Today's story]] is about [[Maria Callas]], on her centenary. - [[Aaron Copland]] died OTD, and [[User talk:Jerome Kohl\|Jerome Kohl]] (mentioned in November) said something wise on Copland's talk, - yes, regarding a soft(er) stance towards infoboxes. -- [[User:Gerda Arendt\|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt\|talk]]) 17:25, 2 December 2023 (UTC) Back to arbitration: did you check out the history of the infobox of Callas? Compare [[Jessye Norman]], [[Kathleen Ferrier]] and [[Jenny Lind]]. Did you check out the history of Copland? Compare [[Max Reger]], [[Max Beckschäfer]], [[Colin Mawby]] (from today's story), and [[Benjamin Britten]] (who died OTD). What's the difference? If what you see changes your answer to my question, feel free to change, and ping me. I would like to see a way to avoid in the future hundreds of editors commenting on Mozart RfCs, just to kind of restore the infobox he had {{diff\|Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart\|51842651\|\|in 2006}}. [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#Happy new era\|Happy new era]] ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt\|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt\|talk]]) 11:36, 4 December 2023 (UTC) Today, I managed to get the pics to snow (on 28 Nov), and heard [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2023#8 Dec\|a lovely concert]], after listening to [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2023#6 Dec\|a miracle of meditative dreaming]] on 6 December (or just click on music). --[[User:Gerda Arendt\|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt\|talk]]) 22:26, 8 December 2023 (UTC) ... and today, to Paris (29 Nov) with a visit to the Palais Garnier, - to match [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#9 Dec\|the story]] of [[Medea Amiranashvili]], - don't miss listening to [[User talk:GRuban#Medea Amiranashvili\|her expressive voice]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt\|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt\|talk]]) 20:14, 9 December 2023 (UTC) My [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#13 Dec\|story today]] is about [[Michael Robinson (rabbi)\|Michael Robinson]], - it's an honour to have known him. --[[User:Gerda Arendt\|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt\|talk]]) 15:20, 13 December 2023 (UTC) :Seems like [[Michael Robinson (rabbi)#Rabbinic career\|he had a very eventful life]], fighting for worthy causes. The Musée d'Orsay looks impressive from both [[:File:Interior of Musée d'Orsay, Paris, hall from upper level.jpg\|the inside]] and [[:File:Musée d'Orsay, Paris, from Pont Royal.jpg\|the outside]] {{smiley}}. [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 01:58, 17 December 2023 (UTC) Pics up to 3 December (with my shadow in one of them), and a story about Beethoven in memory of his birth. When the arb who wrote the infoboxes case {{diff\|Ludwig van Beethoven\|662287287 \|\| installed the community consensus}} - in 2015! - I hoped these infobox wars were over, really. --[[User:Gerda Arendt\|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt\|talk]]) 23:12, 16 December 2023 (UTC) :The [[:File:Ehrenbach fields with snow.jpg\|fields of snow]] look very peaceful{{snd}}I hope that we can find peace in our work here and beyond, both this month and in the coming year. [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 01:58, 17 December 2023 (UTC) :: Thank you, - you said that so well! - Today, I have [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#22 Dec\|a special story to tell]], of the works of a musician born 300 years ago. --[[User:Gerda Arendt\|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt\|talk]]) 10:02, 22 December 2023 (UTC) :: Congratulations to your election! - I uploaded more pics, with Christmas trees and related artworks, and I have two women on the Main page (for a sad reason). Our [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2023#24 Dec\|Christmas singing]] (of my user's infobox music "singen, singen") was pictured! --[[User:Gerda Arendt\|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt\|talk]]) 22:01, 30 December 2023 (UTC) :::Thank you, [[User:Gerda Arendt\|Gerda]]! One gone a day after the other is doubly unfortunate{{nbsp}}... The [[:File:St. Martin, Idstein, Christmette rehearsal.jpg\|Christmas rehearsal venue's interior]], especially the wall, looks impressive but cosy. A very different style to [[:File:Marienkirche, Berlin, interior towards organ.jpg\|the Marienkirche]], though that one is grand in its own way. [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 00:42, 31 December 2023 (UTC) ~~== New pages patrol January 2024 Backlog drive ==~~ ~~{\| style="border: 5px solid #ABCDEF ; background-color: #FFF; padding:10px 15px 0"~~ \|style="padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em; font-size:130%" \|'''[[Wikipedia:New Page Patrol\|New Page Patrol]] \|''' <span style="font-size:85%">January 2024 Articles Backlog Drive</span> ~~\|rowspan=3\|[[File:NPP Barnstar.png\|right\|75px]]~~ \|- \| * On 1 January 2024, a one-month backlog drive for New Page Patrol will begin. * Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles patrolled. * Barnstars will also be granted for re-reviewing articles previously reviewed by other patrollers during the drive. * Each review will earn 1 point. * Interested in taking part? 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I'd like to wish you a splendid solstice season as we wrap up the year. Here is an artwork, made individually for you, to celebrate. You are always a friendly username to come across. Take care, and thanks for all you do to make Wikipedia better!{{parabr}}Cheers,<br /><span style="color:#AAA"><small>{{u\|</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb\|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}}</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb\|'''talk''']]</sup>}} {{Plain image with caption\|image=Wikipedia-esque globe in a winterscape 76.jpg\|width=512px\|align=center\|caption=<span style="line-height:2em; color:#202122;">''Solstice Celebration for Sdrqaz'', 2023, [[DALL·E 3]].{{right\|([[commons:Category:AI-generated winterscapes with Wikipedia-esque globes\|View full series]])}}{{clear}}{{color\|#72777d\|Note: The vibes are winter solsticey. If you're in the southern hemisphere, {{colored link\|#72777d\|File:Wikipedia-esque globe in a desert landscape.jpg\|<u>oops, apologies</u>}}.}}</span>}} ~~</div>~~ </div> <span style="color:#AAA"><small>{{u\|</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb\|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}}</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb\|'''talk''']]</sup> 07:02, 24 December 2023 (UTC) :Thanks, [[User:Sdkb\|Sdkb]]! Like the artwork, I hope that bright things are on the horizon for us in 2024 (and that outstanding issues in 2023 are resolved!). I'll continue working on my friendliness {{wink}}. [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 14:39, 24 December 2023 (UTC) ~~==DYK for Congressional office lottery==~~ ~~{{ivmbox~~ ~~\|image = Updated DYK query.svg~~ ~~\|imagesize=40px~~ \|text = On [[Wikipedia:Recent_additions/2023/December#29 December 2023\|29 December 2023]], '''[[:Template:Did you know\|Did you know]]''' was updated with a fact from the article '''''[[Congressional office lottery]]''''', which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ''... that the '''[[congressional office lottery]]''' has involved a "Jedi mind trick", head rubs, and push-ups ''(pictured)''{{-?}}'' The nomination discussion and review may be seen at [[Template:Did you know nominations/Congressional office lottery]]. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page <small>([[User:Rjanag/Pageview stats\|here's how]], [https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?start=2023-12-19&end=2024-01-08&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Congressional_office_lottery Congressional office lottery])</small>, and the hook may be added to [[Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics/Monthly DYK pageview leaders\|the statistics page]] after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the [[:Template talk:Did you know\|Did you know talk page]]. ~~}}<!-- Template:UpdatedDYK --> [[User:Z1720\|Z1720]] ([[User talk:Z1720\|talk]]) 00:01, 29 December 2023 (UTC)~~ :That was a really fun read, thanks for the article! [[User:Justiyaya\|'''<span style="color:#1d556d">Just</span>''']][[Special:Contributions/Justiyaya\|'''<span style="color:#000000">i</span>''']][[User talk:Justiyaya#top\|'''<span style="color:#6d351d">yaya</span>''']] 08:33, 29 December 2023 (UTC) ::Thanks, {{u\|Justiyaya}}! I had the idea for the article a while back, but only got around to writing it in November. Not sure that it's really new for DYK purposes, though, as it took 1.5 months to get promoted {{wink}}. [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 00:42, 31 December 2023 (UTC) {{DYK views\|34,008\|1,417.0\|December 2023\|Congressional office lottery}} [[User:GalliumBot\|GalliumBot]] ([[User talk:GalliumBot\|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GalliumBot\|contribs]]) (he/[[It (pronoun)\|it]]) 03:28, 30 December 2023 (UTC) ~~== New User Guidance ==~~ Hi Sdrqaz, I saw you edited [[User:Jpm0000\|my user page]] after [[User:CAPTAIN RAJU\|another user]] requested it be deleted. I am not sure what authority they have to request a deletion as I was just copying my [[User:Ritchie333\|assigned mentor's user page]]. Thank you for your intervention as I don't know what policy I potentially violated or how to respond to a message like that. Please let me know what I should do to fix this and/or prevent this from happening again in the future. ~~Thank you~~ ~~[[User:Jpm0000\|Jpm0000]] ([[User talk:Jpm0000\|talk]]) 22:08, 29 December 2023 (UTC)~~ :Yes, there's nothing wrong with this at all as a user page; it's an identical template to what I've been using for years. Should we do anything about the tagger? [[User:Ritchie333\|<b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b>]] [[User talk:Ritchie333\|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333\|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 13:21, 30 December 2023 (UTC) ::{{re\|Jpm0000\|Ritchie333}} As Ritchie says, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the page. As a word of caution, I think that it's worth noting that pages in your userspace don't belong to you and others are free to tag them for deletion if they wish. However, as long as you [[WP:UPYES\|don't stray away from the guidelines]], you should be fine. Ritchie, I have declined {{u\|CAPTAIN RAJU}}'s nominations with regards to [[WP:U5\|U5]] before (see [https://sigma.toolforge.org/summary.py?name=Sdrqaz&search=captain+raju&max=500&server=enwiki here]) and I hope that they can respond to these pings. [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 00:42, 31 December 2023 (UTC) ~~== ACE2023 congratulations ==~~ Hello Sdrqaz, you have been elected to the arbitration committee! The results of the election are available here: [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2023#Results]]. You will likely be contacted by the existing committee for onboarding. Best regards, — [[User:Xaosflux\|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux\|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 01:43, 30 December 2023 (UTC) :Congratulations, Sdrqaz! Good luck with all of those email messages! <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Liz\|'''''L'''''iz]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/Liz\|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz\|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 06:05, 30 December 2023 (UTC) ~~::Thank you, {{u\|Xaosflux}} and {{u\|Liz}}! A lot of things to set up and get used to {{smiley}}. [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 00:42, 31 December 2023 (UTC)~~ ~~== 2024 Arbitration Committee ==~~ The Arbitration Committee welcomes the following new and returning arbitrators following their [[:en:WP:ACE2023\|election]] by the community. The two-year terms of these arbitrators formally begin on 1 January 2024: * {{userlinks\|Aoidh}} * {{userlinks\|Cabayi}} * {{userlinks\|Firefly}} * {{userlinks\|HJ Mitchell}} * {{userlinks\|Maxim}} * {{userlinks\|Sdrqaz}} * {{userlinks\|ToBeFree}} * {{userlinks\|Z1720}} Upon meeting the Wikimedia Foundation's [[foundation:Policy:Access to nonpublic personal data policy\|criteria for access to non-public personal data]] and signing the Foundation's non-public information [[foundation:Legal:Confidentiality agreement for nonpublic information\|confidentiality agreement]], all incoming arbitrators [[w:en:Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Procedures#Arbitrator_access_to_mailing_lists_and_permissions\|will be]] subscribed to [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee#Mailing lists\|all Committee-managed email lists]], assigned the CheckUser and Oversight permissions for use in office, and given access to the CheckUser and Oversight queues on the [[WP:VRTS\|VRTS system]]. ~~We also thank our outgoing colleagues whose terms end on 31 December 2023:~~ * {{userlinks\|Enterprisey}} * {{userlinks\|Izno}} * {{userlinks\|SilkTork}} * {{userlinks\|Wugapodes}} Outgoing arbitrators are eligible to retain the CheckUser and Oversight permissions, to remain active on cases accepted before their term ended, and to remain subscribed to the functionaries' and arbitration clerks' mailing lists following their term on the committee. To that effect: * Stewards are requested to remove the permission(s) noted from the following outgoing arbitrators, who have not elected to retain them, after 31 December 2023: : CheckUser: Enterprisey, Izno, SilkTork : Oversight: Enterprisey, Izno, SilkTork * Outgoing arbitrators are eligible to remain active on cases opened before their term ended if they wish. Whether or not outgoing arbitrators will remain active on any ongoing case(s) will be noted on the proposed decision talk page of affected case(s). * All outgoing arbitrators will remain subscribed to the [[:en:WP:FUNC\|functionaries' mailing list]], with the exception of Enterprisey, who has elected to be unsubscribed. * All outgoing arbitrators will be unsubscribed from the [[w:en:Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Clerks#Mailing_list\|clerks-l mailing list]], with the exception of Izno, who has elected to remain subscribed. ~~For the Arbitration Committee, '''[[User:L235\|KevinL]]''' (<small>aka</small> [[User:L235\|L235]] '''·''' [[User talk:L235#top\|t]] '''·''' [[Special:Contribs/L235\|c]]) 04:24, 30 December 2023 (UTC)~~ : Discuss this at: '''{{slink\|Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard\|2024 Arbitration Committee}}'''<!-- [[User:ArbClerkBot\|ArbClerkBot]] ([[User talk:ArbClerkBot\|talk]]) 04:25, 30 December 2023 (UTC) --><!--Template:hes--> ~~== Request ==~~ Can you please delete my userpage? I'd like my history on that userpage cleared. [[User:Icantthinkofanamexd\|Sincerely, Icantthinkofanamexd]] ([[User talk:Icantthinkofanamexd\|talk]]) 02:00, 18 January 2024 (UTC) ~~:Sure; {{logid\|158269961\|done}} {{smiley}}. [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 02:04, 18 January 2024 (UTC)~~ ~~== Restoring user rights ==~~ Hi Sdrqaz, I understand that you appropriately revoked some of my user privileges in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=rights&page=User%3ANearlyevil665&user=Sdrqaz September 2023]<nowiki> due to an extended period of inactivity. I have resolved the issues that initially caused my absence and am happy to return to my previous capacities as a draft page reviewer, new page patroller, etc. Could you please consider reinstating my previous privileges? Thanks a bunch! ~~~~</nowiki> [[User:nearlyevil665\|<span style="background:#f57e7e; color:white; padding:2px;">nearlyevil</span>]][[User talk:nearlyevil665\|<span style="background:#efb5a3; color:red; padding:2px;">665</span>]] 12:09, 26 January 2024 (UTC) :Welcome back, [[User:Nearlyevil665\|Nearlyevil665]]. I notice that you've not really used your page mover permission: Apart from {{logid\|158704711\|today}}, the last time you used it was {{logid\|126269741\|in January 2022}}. Do you want that back as well? [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 17:21, 26 January 2024 (UTC) ::Thank you for the prompt response, Sdrqaz! I was more of a draft page reviewer person but if you don't mind -- yes, I'd like that one back as well. You never know when it might come in handy! [[User:nearlyevil665\|<span style="background:#f57e7e; color:white; padding:2px;">nearlyevil</span>]][[User talk:nearlyevil665\|<span style="background:#efb5a3; color:red; padding:2px;">665</span>]] 04:34, 27 January 2024 (UTC) :::I see. If, in the future, you find that you do not need it, please feel free to contact me. Welcome back again {{smiley}}. [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 23:56, 27 January 2024 (UTC) ~~== A barnstar for you! ==~~ ~~{\| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"~~ ~~\|rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" \| [[File:Original Barnstar Hires.png\|100px]]~~ ~~\|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" \| '''The Original Barnstar'''~~ \|- \|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" \| Just a thanks for responding to my OS reports and also verifying that they actually need OS. I am usually pretty good at identifying what needs it and what doesn't but I didn't even think to check the IP address on the one I submitted just a little while ago. [[User:Philipnelson99\|Philipnelson99]] ([[User talk:Philipnelson99\|talk]]) 04:18, 3 February 2024 (UTC) \|} ~~== A cookie for you! ==~~ ~~{\| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"~~ ~~\|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" \| [[File:Choco chip cookie.png\|120px]]~~ \|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" \| Thanks for your help with all the Bridge Bridge / Bridgeport Bridge / Purple Hearts Bridge confusion. [[User:BuySomeApples\|BuySomeApples]] ([[User talk:BuySomeApples\|talk]]) 02:52, 13 February 2024 (UTC) \|} ~~==[[Bridgeport Bridge (Ohio River)]]==~~ ~~Hello, Sdrqaz,~~ Do you think [[Military Order of the Purple Heart Bridge]] is a duplicate of this article? It seems like we might need to go through the Contributions of this editor. But I defer to your judgment. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Liz\|'''''L'''''iz]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/Liz\|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz\|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 04:06, 13 February 2024 (UTC) :Not to butt in {{re\|Liz}} but I just redirected [[Military Order of the Purple Heart Bridge]] to [[Bridgeport Bridge (Ohio River)]], because it was an undersourced stub anyway. The editor who tried blanking and renaming it said they were trying to merge the articles anyway, so I don't think it will be controversial. [[User:BuySomeApples\|BuySomeApples]] ([[User talk:BuySomeApples\|talk]]) 09:25, 13 February 2024 (UTC) :Based on the old versions of the articles ([[Special:Permalink/1182028177\|Bridgeport]], [[Special:Permalink/1196900397\|Purple Heart]]), I think that they're two bridges that are very close to each other, with one replacing the other after it effectively fell apart. I suppose they can be merged into each other, though I'm not sure that having the extant article at the old title is a good idea{{snd}}is there actually a [[WP:MERGEREASON\|broader topic]] for these two topics? The [[Special:Permalink/1206775139\|current version]] looks a little strange. [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 03:35, 14 February 2024 (UTC) ::The Bridgeport article starting off with info about the Purple Hearts bridge is kind of weird in that case imo. Maybe there should be a split and cleanup on both to better differentiate between them? [[User:BuySomeApples\|BuySomeApples]] ([[User talk:BuySomeApples\|talk]]) 06:04, 14 February 2024 (UTC) :::Sure, but [[Special:Diff/1206725231\|a reason why the merge was attempted in the first place]] was due to its brevity. Presumably splitting again will not satisfy {{u\|That guy who plays games}}' concerns. [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 03:28, 15 February 2024 (UTC) ::::No, the only reason I did that was because the 1998 bridge’s article was stubbed, and the only notable thing about it is that it served as a replacement to the more notable bridge that was left to decay for 100 years(nearly 200 in the rock pier’s case). [[User:That guy who plays games\|That guy who plays games]] ([[User talk:That guy who plays games\|talk]]) 03:39, 15 February 2024 (UTC) ~~== You've got mail ==~~ ~~{{You've got mail\|dashlesssig=[[User:Doug Weller\|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller\|talk]] 08:17, 17 February 2024 (UTC)}}~~ ~~== Hatnote removal on [[girl soldiers]] ==~~ Hm...while on the one hand, I do see what you are getting at, I actually didn't so much intend it as a related-subject link, but rather due to the confusion possible as a result of the colloquial use of "girls" for "young adult women", which seemed relevant since the rank-and-file of soldiers tend to be young adults. With that consideration in mind, does your opinion on whether the hatnote should stay or go remain the same? I'm personally uncertain, so I'd quite appreciate your opinion. [[User:AddWittyNameHere\|<span style="background:#42024b; color:#fcf09c;">'''''AddWitty'''''</span>]][[User talk:AddWittyNameHere\|<span style="background:#fcf09c; color:#42024b;">''NameHere''</span>]] 00:01, 19 February 2024 (UTC) :Ah, I see. I think that given [[Female soldiers]] redirects to [[Women in the military]], a hatnote there would [[WP:HATREDIR\|make a lot of sense]]. That being said, with your rationale I think that if you wanted to restore the hatnote at [[Girl soldiers]], I wouldn't object: I hadn't thought of that reasoning. Thanks for the message. [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 01:01, 19 February 2024 (UTC) ::Thank you for your response! Any objections if I do both, that is, restore the hatnote on [[girl soldiers]] while also adding a "female soldiers redirects here"-style hatnote at [[Women in the military]]? I assume not, but never hurts to verify instead of assume, and all that. [[User:AddWittyNameHere\|<span style="background:#42024b; color:#fcf09c;">'''''AddWitty'''''</span>]][[User talk:AddWittyNameHere\|<span style="background:#fcf09c; color:#42024b;">''NameHere''</span>]] 17:03, 19 February 2024 (UTC) ~~:::Go for it {{smiley2}}. Best wishes, [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 01:15, 20 February 2024 (UTC)~~ ~~== Second opinion regarding civility ==~~ I'm heavily involved, and so not objective, so I'd like a second opinion regarding whether [[Special:Diff/1209609996\|this edit (and summary)]] is appropriate? A few of the same editors other recent contributions to that discussion haven't been great (I explicitly called them out about personal attacks a day or so ago) and got brushed off. The latest comment feels even less collegiate to my mind. [[User:Thryduulf\|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf\|talk]]) 19:53, 22 February 2024 (UTC) :Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, {{u\|Thryduulf}}: a lot of things going on. I see that {{u\|WhatamIdoing}} has [[Special:Diff/1209677599\|removed]] the comment since your question.{{pb}}{{u\|AndyTheGrump}}, I don't think that we've interacted before and I'm sorry that we're not meeting in better circumstances. I know that the topic is a frustrating one, but I don't think that comments like that are very helpful to moving the discussion along. I'd also like to gently point out to both you and Thryduulf that you've both made quite a few comments in that discussion{{snd}}reading it, I feel that it's clear what both of your positions on the issues are, and reiterating it may not be that useful (diminishing returns etc). However, one of the issues with my late reply is that you both haven't made comments at that discussion since 22 February, so unless specifically pinged I think that it would be a good idea to continue that streak. Best wishes, [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz#top\|talk]]) 05:08, 25 February 2024 (UTC) ::Unless and until the community determines otherwise, I will continue to comment as I see fit on the clear and unambiguous attempts to impose an utterly bizarre and partisan interpretation of Wikipedia policies on articles concerning so-called 'micronations' through tendentious Wikilawyering, relentless badgering, and attempts to dress fantasy roleplaying as objective fact. Fortunately it appears that the community at large seems to be arriving at a consensus largely in accord with mine (and more to the point, in accord with [[WP:NPOV]], [[WP:RS]] etc, etc...), and if that trend continues (and attempts to canvas for external support appear to remain fruitless [https://www.reddit.com/r/Liberland/comments/1alula2/ongoing_debate_on_whether_the_liberland_wikipedia/]), further comment may not prove necessary. [[User:AndyTheGrump\|AndyTheGrump]] ([[User talk:AndyTheGrump\|talk]]) 07:15, 25 February 2024 (UTC)