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::: Not all "sources" are equal. [[WP:PRIMARY]] and [[WP:SECONDARY]] sources are treated differently, And, among SECONDARY sources, there are many considerations that decide the relative reliability. You need to read [[WP:SECONDARY]] and [[WP:RS]] thouroughly and see its application in many contexts in order to understand how the criteria apply. Note in particular, {{tq|As a rule of thumb, the more people engaged in checking facts, analyzing legal issues, and scrutinizing the writing, the more reliable the publication.}} You are not allowed to bring up presumed "editorial bias" without presenting evidence and looking at the relevant context. See [[WP:ASPERSION]]. -- [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] ([[User talk:Kautilya3|talk]]) 12:04, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
::: Regarding "393 temples", I have already responded in the section above, stating, {{tq|So, tell me how many temples and how many shrines, and how you arrived at those numbers.}}. You haven't yet done this. -- [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] ([[User talk:Kautilya3|talk]]) 12:08, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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== Manipur kingdom ==
 
{{U|Luwanglinux}}, I see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2023%E2%80%932024_Manipur_violence&diff=1231235676&oldid=1231125998 here] an attempt identify the present-day Manipur state with the historical "Manipur kingdom". Note that there is no schoarly consensus on this. Some dissenting views:
{{talkquote|In the pre-colonial period, the hill people lived as ''independent and sovereign nations'' in their respective chiefdoms, free from any external control.<ref>[[Lal Dena]], Lal Robul Pudaite, [https://www.outlookindia.com/national/colonial-divide-in-manipur-tracing-the-journey-of-state-between-1835-and-1947-news-315632 Colonial Divide In Manipur: Tracing The Journey Of State Between 1835 And 1947], Outlook, 4 September 2023.</ref>}}
 
{{talkquote|Historically, the valley region of the state was under a monarchical system, whereas the hill areas are ''under tribal sovereigns''.<ref>{{citation |first=Roluah |last=Puia |chapter=When boundaries matter: land, laws and territorial conflict in Manipur, Northeast India |editor1=Kedilezo Kikhi |editor2=Dharma Rakshit Gautam |title=Comprehending Equity |publisher=Taylor & Francis |year=2021 |isbn=9781003182726 |doi=10.4324/9781003182726-8 |chapter-url=https://www.academia.edu/49356615 |via=academia.edu |chapter-url-access=registration |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=F7k6EAAAQBAJ |page=99}}</ref>}}
 
{{talkquote|Ever since the colonial government brought the hill areas ''by annexation into the fold of Manipur'', which was then only the Imphal Valley, the hill tribes and the valley community have been "living together separately," with certain separate administrative arrangements.<ref>{{citation |last=Piang |first=L. Lam Khan |title=Institutional Exclusion of the Hill Tribes in Manipur: Demand for Protection under the Sixth Schedule |journal=Economic & Political Weekly |volume=54 |number=15 |date=13 April 2019 |url=https://www.epw.in/journal/2019/15/special-articles/institutional-exclusion-hill-tribes-manipur.html |id={{ProQuest|2209626765}} }}</ref>}}
 
This is not something we can get into on this page. -- [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] ([[User talk:Kautilya3|talk]]) 12:35, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 
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