Talk:Norm Cash

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Latest comment: 9 years ago by Ellsworth in topic Expansion pitching

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Another trick Cash did with success was visit the pitchers mound and take the ball from the pitcher,then with a baserunner on first Cash would return to his position at first base.When play resumed and the runner at first took his lead off the bag-Cash would tag him out, the umpire called the runner out and Cash whips ball around infield as if business as usual.

This is dubious: the hidden ball trick very rarely works when tried by a first baseman because the runner and (especially) the first base coach are both trained to watch for this. If Cash really was an aficionado of the trick it needs some good sourcing. Ellsworth (talk) 01:55, 10 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Expansion pitching

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Many observers have attributed some of the gaudy hitting statistics of 1961 to the league expansion that year, which resulted in a dilution of pitching talent.

This has been debunked by Bill James and others. The increase in hitting in 1961 in the AL occurred because two new hitter-friendly parks came into the league. In games played in the other parks, there were fewer home runs hit and runs scored (per game). See Talk: Wrigley Field (Los Angeles) for discussion. Ellsworth (talk) 14:41, 13 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

This sucker won't die:

...[re: 1961] . . ."(an expansion season in the American League which created a diluted pitching situation in the league)".

No, it didn't. See above. Ellsworth (talk) 03:25, 26 August 2014 (UTC)Reply