Talk:Afrika Korps

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Latest comment: 9 years ago by Peter Isotalo in topic Requested move

historical narrative

Probably needs a historical narrative, though that might actually belong elsewhere.

Check my facts and figures if you can.

-- B.Bryant

Article rename

I think this article needs renaming to its common English name. Philip Baird Shearer

Blocking force use is inaccurate

Please use 'expeditionary force'... the most accurate English description. Blocking force was only used for the initial units: Sperrverband Libyen http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=9375 --maxrspct ping me 14:57, 18 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Treatment of Jews

The article seems to be a bit unclear on the general treatment of Jews, Afrika Korps was largely Heer so the harsh treatment of Jews was relatively foreign to them. From my knowledge of other fronts, the S.S. units would move into these areas and they were largely responsible for this kind of stuff. If anyone is able to clarify for me that would be greatly appreciated. --Elven6 (talk) 22:02, 11 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

The section on treatment of Jews is inaccurate throughout. The sources for this section are highly questionable and there is not a single dependable source that confirms these claims. It seems that many of the statements in this section are also wrong and inaccurate. For starters: The SS never fought in North Africa!!! 78.105.93.142 (talk) 10:52, 1 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Yad Vashem is a very respectable source. The German Army committed many atrocities in the second world war and its commander was executed at Nurenburg. If you have evidence for problems with the sources please show them.Telaviv1 (talk) 14:09, 23 March 2011 (UTC)Reply


Added another source [1] US Holocaust Museum. Telaviv1 (talk) 14:23, 23 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

By Rebell44: some of your sources contain information which was proven to be false, such as SS units in afrika etc. - also two of your sources directly contradict each other in some important claims (like number of dead). Also every major documentary about Afrika Korps confirm that there was no Gestapo or SS in afrika. http://www.armchairgeneral.com/pov-war-without-hate.htm

at least I have sources. what do you have? Telaviv1 (talk) 22:11, 3 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

You dont have any historical source, documents etc. Afrika Korps (and later Army Group Afrika) OOB (Order Of Battle) clerarly show which German units served in Afrika - SS isnt listed there and as someone who studied WW2 for 10 years I never saw any info that SS ever served there. Also as posted above, even your "sources" cant agree with each other. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rebell44 (talkcontribs) 23:20, 4 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

No details or sources were provided for this criticism, so I am restoring the section. Telaviv1 (talk) 13:02, 28 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Afrika Korps OOB is sufficient proof to discredit source that claim SS being part of Afrika Korps. /Rebel44/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rebell44 (talkcontribs) 12:14, 21 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

I also consider statements from many allied soldiers who were there to be reliable source to what was or wasnt happening there - for example Irving 1977, p. 39. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rebell44 (talkcontribs) 12:19, 21 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Hi! Always wondered about Seal of Afrika Korp

Is there information on the Seal of the Afrika Korp Palm tree(date Palme?) Swatika/Fylfot?Had a relative in the Waffen SS Walonia who somehow had a pin from this excellant fighting force Palm/Swastika.Merci'/Thanks!(Ref:Fylfot/PalmPMWed.Oct.28,200921st.Cent.E.Andre'.J.)NONDEPLUME (talk) 02:04, 29 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Requested move

Afrika KorpsGerman African Corps; Afrika Korps is just Afrikakorps in separate words in German, not English, and there can be any military corps in Africa. (added by 202.123.130.53 )


Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one sentence explanation, then sign your vote with ~~~~
Strangely sinebot hasn't auto-added the signature for the IP editor, hence my manual addition.GraemeLeggett (talk) 08:13, 23 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
At least change the name to Africa Corps, Afrika Korps is Afrikakorps, which is in German, similar but not the same as spelling in English. (added by 202.123.130.53 )
The point is that as "Afrika Korps" is how it is known in English-language sources, in articles for general readership[2] and in popular culture. GraemeLeggett (talk) 13:30, 23 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose - As stated above, "Afrika Korps" is the long standing common English language term for this unit, though the term is not a direct translation of the German name. I believe the opening paragraph in the article attempts to address this issue.Gunbirddriver (talk) 05:43, 28 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
You are not "signing" your comments. You need to finish your comment with 4 tildes (~~~~). When you save page, this is automatically converted into username (or IP address) and time and date. GraemeLeggett (talk) 05:45, 24 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

Follow-up regarding the name

My impression is that the semi-German "Afrika Korps" is definitely the more common, but then why introduce the article with the name that is neither official nor the most common? With very few exceptions, articles are always introduced with their actual title. I switched the names around to reflect this.

Peter Isotalo 23:08, 14 October 2014 (UTC)Reply