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==== Category:Lists of people by place in the United Kingdom ====
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:''The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this section.''
 
:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''merge''' to [[:Category:Lists of British people by location]]. '''''[[User:Bibliomaniac15|<span style="color: black;">bibliomaniac</span>]][[User talk:Bibliomaniac15|<span style="color: red;">1</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Bibliomaniac15|<span style="color: green;">5</span>]]''''' 06:55, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Lists of people by place in the United Kingdom]] to [[:Category:Lists of British people by location]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Duplicate categories. I have a slight preference for the target name because it is more consistent with parent {{C|Lists of British people}} and children {{C|Lists of English people by location}} and {{C|Lists of Scottish people by location}}, and because there is a preference for names where the splitter is at the end per {{section link|WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 1|X by Y in Z}}. [[User:Place Clichy|Place Clichy]] ([[User talk:Place Clichy|talk]]) 13:27, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
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:: (answered after relisting) While I could live with a reverse merge, I don't think that the opposing argument makes much sense. These categories for ''people... in the United Kingdom'' are casually placed in parent categories named for ''British people'': {{Cl|Lists of people by place in the United Kingdom}} is currently in parents {{Cl|British people by locality}} and {{Cl|Lists of British people}}, and {{Cl|Lists of British people by location}} has {{Cl|Lists of people by city in the United Kingdom}} as a child. There are no children categories for these mysterious non-British UK people, except if you consider the ''English'' and ''Scottish'' categories as that, which is quite a stretch. This hypothetical difference between British and non-British people from the UK is not not present at the level of parent categories either. It does not exist for any other country, e.g. we don't have parallel trees for {{Cl|People in Qatar}} next to {{Cl|Qatari people}}, despite the well-known fact that ca. 90% of residents of Qatar are not Qatari nationals. I don't think it would be workable to try and have such a distinction in categories (it should be made clear in every article when possible though, of course). '''Please merge anyway''' whatever the consensus target turns out to be, as a better outcome to the status quo. I still slightly prefer the initial target, because of the format of the parent categories. [[User:Place Clichy|Place Clichy]] ([[User talk:Place Clichy|talk]]) 04:06, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
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==== Category:Recipients of the Order of Zayed ====