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Line 1: {{NOINDEX}} ~~<noinclude>{{Deletion review log header}}</noinclude>~~ <noinclude><div class="boilerplate metadata vfd" style="background-color: #F3F9FF; margin: 0 auto; padding: 0 1px 0 0; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA; font-size:10px"> {\| width = "100%" \|- ! width=20% align=left \| <span style="color:gray;"><</span> [[Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2008 December 30\|December 30]] ! width=60% align=center \| [[Wikipedia:Deletion review/Archive\|Deletion review archives]]: [[Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 December\|2008 December]] ! width=20% align=right \| [[Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2009 January 1\|January 1]] <span style="color:gray;">></span> \|} </div></noinclude> ===[[Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 December 31\|31 December 2008]]=== <!--Please notify the administrator who performed the action that you wish to be reviewed by leaving {{subst:DRVNote\|page name}} on their talk page. Line 5 ⟶ 13: Add a new entry BELOW THIS LINE copying the format: {{subst:Newdelrev\|pg=PAGENAME\|ns=NAMESPACE of page (optional)\|reason=UNDELETE_REASON}} ~~~~ --> {\| class="~~navbox~~ mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width: 100%; text-align: left; border: 0px; margin-top: 0.2em;" \|- ! style="background-color: #f2dfce; font-weight:normal; text-align:left;" \| * '''[[Talk:Matt Lee(musician deluxe)]]''' – '''Speedy closed''' as other-than a deletion review request. Nothing to do. – '''[[User:Jerry\|<~~font~~span ~~face~~style="font-family:century gothic" ; color=":#eeff00;">~~'''[[User:Jerry\|~~Jerry</span>]]''' ~~</font>~~<small>[[User Talk:Jerry\|delusional]] ¤ [[User:Jerry/Count\|kangaroo]]</small> 23:54, 31 December 2008 (UTC) <!----> \|- \| style="text-align:center;" \| ''The following is an archived debate of the [[Wikipedia:Deletion review\|deletion review]] of the article above. <span style="color:red;">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span>'' \|- \| style="border: solid 1px silver; padding: 8px; background-color: white;" \| {{drvlinks\|pg=Talk:Matt Lee(musician deluxe)}} ~~{{#ifeq:{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}~~ \| Article \| Talk \| Category \| Category talk \| User \| User talk \| Template \| Template talk \| Image \| Image talk \| Wikipedia \| Wikipedia talk \| Portal \| Portal talk \| MediaWiki \| MediaWiki talk = 1 \| {{ns:0}} = {{ns:0}} \| #default = 0}}\|0\|<big><big><font color="red">Invalid {{para\|ns}}, please use one of the following: Article, Talk, Category, Category talk, User, User talk, Template, Template talk, Image, Image talk, Wikipedia, Wikipedia talk, Portal, Portal talk, MediaWiki, MediaWiki talk.</font></big></big>\| ~~:{{l{{#if:{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}\| Article \| Talk = {{ns:0}} \| }}\|n\|a}}{{#ifeq:{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}~~ ~~\| Talk \| Category talk \| User talk \| Template talk \| Image talk \| Wikipedia talk \| Portal talk \| MediaWiki talk = Talk~~ ~~\| #default =~~ ~~}}\|Talk\|t}}\|{{#if:\|{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}~~ ~~\| Article \| Talk = {{ns:0}}~~ ~~\| Image talk = Image~~ ~~\| User talk = User~~ ~~\| Wikipedia talk = Wikipedia~~ ~~\| Template talk = Template~~ ~~\| Category talk = Category~~ ~~\| Portal talk = Portal~~ ~~\| MediaWiki talk = MediaWiki~~ \| }}}}\|{{#if:{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}\|Article\|Talk={{ns:0}}\|}}\|2\|1}}=Talk:Matt Lee(musician deluxe)}} <tt>(</tt>[[Special:Undelete/{{#if:{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}\|Article={{ns:0}}\|#default=}}\|{{{ns}}}:}}Talk:Matt Lee(musician deluxe)\|restore]]<tt>\|</tt><span class="plainlinks">[http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:{{fullurl:{{#if:{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}\|Article={{ns:0}}\|#default=}}\|{{{ns}}}:}}Talk:Matt Lee(musician deluxe)}} cache]</span>{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}\| Article =<tt>\|</tt>[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/{{ucfirst:Talk:Matt Lee(musician deluxe)}}\|AfD]]\| ~~Category \| Template \| Image = \|~~ Talk \| Portal \| Portal talk \| Wikipedia \| Wikipedia talk \| MediaWiki \| MediaWiki talk \| Image talk \| Category talk \| Template talk \| User \| User talk =<tt>\|</tt>[[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/{{ucfirst:{{{ns}}}}}:{{ucfirst:Talk:Matt Lee(musician deluxe)}}\|MfD]]\| ~~#default =<tt>\|</tt>[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/{{ucfirst:Talk:Matt Lee(musician deluxe)}}\|AfD]]}}}}~~ '''note to admins''' I would like to know how this all goes. There are things here I don't understand. I thought you folks kept all notes here at wiki. I would like to see the entire notes on this page that were removed. I would like to know where the rest of the notes here are. There are notes from this and the actual page missing. I'm new to this so please forgive me but, does this constitute some kind of vandalism? I , like I said am new , so please bear with me. But I want to see the pages that were deleted here. They would be from December 23,24,25,26,27,28,29, 2008. I would also like to know why these new pages are here, but all of a sudden the other pages are missing.76.94.31.7 (talk) 20:45, 31 December 2008 (UTC) Line 38 ⟶ 29: \|} {\| class="~~navbox~~ mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width: 100%; text-align: left; border: 0px; margin-top: 0.2em;" \|- ! style="background-color: #f2dfce; font-weight:normal; text-align:left;" \| Line 50 ⟶ 41: ---- ~~#default =<tt>\|</tt>[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/~~{{~~ucfirst:~~drvlinks\|pg=Matt Lee(guitar player)~~}}\|AfD]]}}~~}}<small> ([[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Matt Lee (musician)\|AFD 1]] \|[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Matt Lee (musician) (2nd nomination)\|AFD 2]] \| [[Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 September 9\|DRV 1]] \| [[Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 September 18\|DRV 2]] \| [[Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 September 28\|DRV 3]]\| [[User:Spartaz/Musician\|Userfied version]]\| [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Spartaz/Musician&action=history history])</small>▼ ~~{{#ifeq:{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}~~ \| Article \| Talk \| Category \| Category talk \| User \| User talk \| Template \| Template talk \| Image \| Image talk \| Wikipedia \| Wikipedia talk \| Portal \| Portal talk \| MediaWiki \| MediaWiki talk = 1 \| {{ns:0}} = {{ns:0}} \| #default = 0}}\|0\|<big><big><font color="red">Invalid {{para\|ns}}, please use one of the following: Article, Talk, Category, Category talk, User, User talk, Template, Template talk, Image, Image talk, Wikipedia, Wikipedia talk, Portal, Portal talk, MediaWiki, MediaWiki talk.</font></big></big>\| ~~:{{l{{#if:{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}\| Article \| Talk = {{ns:0}} \| }}\|n\|a}}{{#ifeq:{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}~~ ~~\| Talk \| Category talk \| User talk \| Template talk \| Image talk \| Wikipedia talk \| Portal talk \| MediaWiki talk = Talk~~ ~~\| #default =~~ ~~}}\|Talk\|t}}\|{{#if:\|{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}~~ ~~\| Article \| Talk = {{ns:0}}~~ ~~\| Image talk = Image~~ ~~\| User talk = User~~ ~~\| Wikipedia talk = Wikipedia~~ ~~\| Template talk = Template~~ ~~\| Category talk = Category~~ ~~\| Portal talk = Portal~~ ~~\| MediaWiki talk = MediaWiki~~ \| }}}}\|{{#if:{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}\|Article\|Talk={{ns:0}}\|}}\|2\|1}}=Matt Lee(guitar player)}} <tt>(</tt>[[Special:Undelete/{{#if:{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}\|Article={{ns:0}}\|#default=}}\|{{{ns}}}:}}Matt Lee(guitar player)\|restore]]<tt>\|</tt><span class="plainlinks">[http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:{{fullurl:{{#if:{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}\|Article={{ns:0}}\|#default=}}\|{{{ns}}}:}}Matt Lee(guitar player)}} cache]</span>{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}\| Article =<tt>\|</tt>[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/{{ucfirst:Matt Lee(guitar player)}}\|AfD]]\| ~~Category \| Template \| Image = \|~~ Talk \| Portal \| Portal talk \| Wikipedia \| Wikipedia talk \| MediaWiki \| MediaWiki talk \| Image talk \| Category talk \| Template talk \| User \| User talk =<tt>\|</tt>[[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/{{ucfirst:{{{ns}}}}}:{{ucfirst:Matt Lee(guitar player)}}\|MfD]]\| ▲ #default =<tt>\|</tt>[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/{{ucfirst:Matt Lee(guitar player)}}\|AfD]]}}}}<small> ([[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Matt Lee (musician)\|AFD 1]] \|[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Matt Lee (musician) (2nd nomination)\|AFD 2]] \| [[Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 September 9\|DRV 1]] \| [[Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 September 18\|DRV 2]] \| [[Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 September 28\|DRV 3]]\| [[User:Spartaz/Musician\|Userfied version]]\| [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Spartaz/Musician&action=history history])</small> See also:<br /> Line 77 ⟶ 51: [[Matt lee]]<br /> <small>NOTE: This DRV was added by [[Special:Contributions/Bill Blake990\|Bill Blake990]] per [[User:Lifebaka\|<~~font~~i ~~color~~style="color:green;">~~[[User:Lifebaka\|''~~lifebaka~~'']]~~</~~font~~i>]][[User talk:Lifebaka\|'''++''']]'s comment to [[User:Joeyboyee\|Joeyboyee]] at [[Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 September 28\|DRV 3]] which said, in part, that when the article had been userfied and worked on to "''bring it back here to open up another DRV (or just in this one if it's still running) and have some people take a look at it. If consensus is that it no longer has the issues laid out in the 2nd AfD above, it'll get moved back into the mainspace.''" [[User:Soundvisions1\|Soundvisions1]] ([[User talk:Soundvisions1\|talk]]) 03:31, 31 December 2008 (UTC)</small> Line 107 ⟶ 81: ::'''comment''': In response to [[User:Stifle\|Stifle]] - all of this happened rather fast over the last 24 hours so, as far as I go, there was not time to notify every editor who deleted each slightly different named version of the article, nor every editor who participated in the two AFD's or three prior DRV's. At the point we are at now it is somewhat hard to follow the overall history of this subject because pages have been deleted and recreated and redirected and the redirects deleted so page histories are being deleted as well is some cases. This also goes for associated talk pages and their histories. Now, with two userfied versions, neither of which contain 100% edit history, it is difficult to track any version fully. I think the easiest way for now is to look at the original userfied version on September 18 and compare it to how it was when it was reposted to mainspace on December 25: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ASpartaz%2FMusician&diff=260017081&oldid=239381872 September 18 and December 25 dif]. It may be hard to trace fully the changes made since December 25 because both userfied articles have been edited as were the now deleted [[Matt Lee]], [[Matt Lee(musician deluxe)]] and [[Matt Lee(guitar player)]] articles. :::I do feel that before the article was posted yet again to mainspace there should have been a discussion as had been suggested by [[User:Lifebaka\|<~~font~~i ~~color~~style="color:green;">~~[[User:Lifebaka\|''~~lifebaka~~'']]~~</~~font~~i>]][[User talk:Lifebaka\|'''++''']] at the [[Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 September 28\|September 28 DRV]]. As the CSD on the (re)created [[Matt Lee]] and the [[Matt Lee(musician deluxe)]] was denied I had assumed good faith and thought there may had been some such discussion on the issue. I found out after the article was speedied anyway there had been no such discussion but I felt, at that point, it didn't matter one way or the other. It was the recreation of ''that'' deleted material into the [[Matt Lee(guitar player)]] mainspace that prompted my G4 nom for that and led to this DRV. [[User:Soundvisions1\|Soundvisions1]] ([[User talk:Soundvisions1\|talk]]) 16:52, 31 December 2008 (UTC) '''Note''': this admin took the Matt Lee page down without looking. The Matt Lee(Musician deluxe)was deleted because another admin undid a speedy delete and moved it like this link shows to the site without qualifier or Matt Lee. :http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Talk%3AMatt+Lee(musician+deluxe)> It was deleted after it was approved by another admin.[[Special:Contributions/76.94.31.7\|76.94.31.7]] ([[User talk:76.94.31.7\|talk]]) 01:49, 1 January 2009 (UTC) Line 126 ⟶ 100: '''RE: above''' just click on the logs and you'll see what I'm talking about. That will give you the forensics I have for now. Thanks.[[Special:Contributions/76.94.31.7\|76.94.31.7]] ([[User talk:76.94.31.7\|talk]]) 20:56, 31 December 2008 (UTC) {{drvlinks\|pg=Talk:Matt Lee(musician deluxe)}} ~~{{#ifeq:{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}~~ \| Article \| Talk \| Category \| Category talk \| User \| User talk \| Template \| Template talk \| Image \| Image talk \| Wikipedia \| Wikipedia talk \| Portal \| Portal talk \| MediaWiki \| MediaWiki talk = 1 \| {{ns:0}} = {{ns:0}} \| #default = 0}}\|0\|<big><big><font color="red">Invalid {{para\|ns}}, please use one of the following: Article, Talk, Category, Category talk, User, User talk, Template, Template talk, Image, Image talk, Wikipedia, Wikipedia talk, Portal, Portal talk, MediaWiki, MediaWiki talk.</font></big></big>\| ~~:{{l{{#if:{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}\| Article \| Talk = {{ns:0}} \| }}\|n\|a}}{{#ifeq:{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}~~ ~~\| Talk \| Category talk \| User talk \| Template talk \| Image talk \| Wikipedia talk \| Portal talk \| MediaWiki talk = Talk~~ ~~\| #default =~~ ~~}}\|Talk\|t}}\|{{#if:\|{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}~~ ~~\| Article \| Talk = {{ns:0}}~~ ~~\| Image talk = Image~~ ~~\| User talk = User~~ ~~\| Wikipedia talk = Wikipedia~~ ~~\| Template talk = Template~~ ~~\| Category talk = Category~~ ~~\| Portal talk = Portal~~ ~~\| MediaWiki talk = MediaWiki~~ \| }}}}\|{{#if:{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}\|Article\|Talk={{ns:0}}\|}}\|2\|1}}=Talk:Matt Lee(musician deluxe)}} <tt>(</tt>[[Special:Undelete/{{#if:{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}\|Article={{ns:0}}\|#default=}}\|{{{ns}}}:}}Talk:Matt Lee(musician deluxe)\|restore]]<tt>\|</tt><span class="plainlinks">[http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:{{fullurl:{{#if:{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}\|Article={{ns:0}}\|#default=}}\|{{{ns}}}:}}Talk:Matt Lee(musician deluxe)}} cache]</span>{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}\| Article =<tt>\|</tt>[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/{{ucfirst:Talk:Matt Lee(musician deluxe)}}\|AfD]]\| ~~Category \| Template \| Image = \|~~ Talk \| Portal \| Portal talk \| Wikipedia \| Wikipedia talk \| MediaWiki \| MediaWiki talk \| Image talk \| Category talk \| Template talk \| User \| User talk =<tt>\|</tt>[[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/{{ucfirst:{{{ns}}}}}:{{ucfirst:Talk:Matt Lee(musician deluxe)}}\|MfD]]\| ~~#default =<tt>\|</tt>[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/{{ucfirst:Talk:Matt Lee(musician deluxe)}}\|AfD]]}}}}~~ Matt lee(musician deluxe) questions: Talk:Matt Lee(musician deluxe) (edit\|talk\|history\|links\|watch\|logs) (restore\|cache\|AfD Line 161 ⟶ 118: \|} {\| class="~~navbox~~ mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width: 100%; text-align: left; border: 0px; margin-top: 0.2em;" \|- ! style="background-color: #f2dfce; font-weight:normal; text-align:left;" \| * '''[[Talk:Matt Lee(musician deluxe)]]''' – '''Speedy close''' as redundant request - we already have a DRV on today's log associated with this talk page's article. – '''[[User:Jerry\|<~~font~~span ~~face~~style="font-family:century gothic" ; color=":#eeff00;">~~'''[[User:Jerry\|~~Jerry</span>]]''' ~~</font>~~<small>[[User Talk:Jerry\|delusional]] ¤ [[User:Jerry/Count\|kangaroo]]</small> 23:58, 31 December 2008 (UTC) <!----> \|- \| style="text-align:center;" \| ''The following is an archived debate of the [[Wikipedia:Deletion review\|deletion review]] of the article above. <span style="color:red;">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span>'' \|- \| style="border: solid 1px silver; padding: 8px; background-color: white;" \| {{drvlinks\|pg=Talk:Matt Lee(musician deluxe)}} ~~{{#ifeq:{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}~~ \| Article \| Talk \| Category \| Category talk \| User \| User talk \| Template \| Template talk \| Image \| Image talk \| Wikipedia \| Wikipedia talk \| Portal \| Portal talk \| MediaWiki \| MediaWiki talk = 1 \| {{ns:0}} = {{ns:0}} \| #default = 0}}\|0\|<big><big><font color="red">Invalid {{para\|ns}}, please use one of the following: Article, Talk, Category, Category talk, User, User talk, Template, Template talk, Image, Image talk, Wikipedia, Wikipedia talk, Portal, Portal talk, MediaWiki, MediaWiki talk.</font></big></big>\| ~~:{{l{{#if:{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}\| Article \| Talk = {{ns:0}} \| }}\|n\|a}}{{#ifeq:{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}~~ ~~\| Talk \| Category talk \| User talk \| Template talk \| Image talk \| Wikipedia talk \| Portal talk \| MediaWiki talk = Talk~~ ~~\| #default =~~ ~~}}\|Talk\|t}}\|{{#if:\|{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}~~ ~~\| Article \| Talk = {{ns:0}}~~ ~~\| Image talk = Image~~ ~~\| User talk = User~~ ~~\| Wikipedia talk = Wikipedia~~ ~~\| Template talk = Template~~ ~~\| Category talk = Category~~ ~~\| Portal talk = Portal~~ ~~\| MediaWiki talk = MediaWiki~~ \| }}}}\|{{#if:{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}\|Article\|Talk={{ns:0}}\|}}\|2\|1}}=Talk:Matt Lee(musician deluxe)}} <tt>(</tt>[[Special:Undelete/{{#if:{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}\|Article={{ns:0}}\|#default=}}\|{{{ns}}}:}}Talk:Matt Lee(musician deluxe)\|restore]]<tt>\|</tt><span class="plainlinks">[http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:{{fullurl:{{#if:{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}\|Article={{ns:0}}\|#default=}}\|{{{ns}}}:}}Talk:Matt Lee(musician deluxe)}} cache]</span>{{#switch:{{ucfirst:}}\| Article =<tt>\|</tt>[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/{{ucfirst:Talk:Matt Lee(musician deluxe)}}\|AfD]]\| ~~Category \| Template \| Image = \|~~ Talk \| Portal \| Portal talk \| Wikipedia \| Wikipedia talk \| MediaWiki \| MediaWiki talk \| Image talk \| Category talk \| Template talk \| User \| User talk =<tt>\|</tt>[[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/{{ucfirst:{{{ns}}}}}:{{ucfirst:Talk:Matt Lee(musician deluxe)}}\|MfD]]\| ~~#default =<tt>\|</tt>[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/{{ucfirst:Talk:Matt Lee(musician deluxe)}}\|AfD]]}}}}~~ *At the logs link above, you'll find [[User:Metropolitan90]] is the admin that changed the page from Matt Lee(musician deluxe) to Matt Lee.