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*'''Support''' LB has already been T-Banned in the [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1083#ARS_Proposal_%231%3A_A_concrete_proposal_-_Topic-Ban_User%3ALightburst|last couple of years for disruption]]; They are the bull that has been in the arena more than twenty minutes. I'm not sure that six months will be enough, to be honest: several of these problems, including those with ARS and deletion, as well as passive-aggressive incivility (see ANIs ''[[passim]]''), go back well before my time and are still dragging editors back here on a semi-regular basis. I do not see a CBan as incompatible with PUNITIVE: indeed, policy regarding the latter makes no mention of the former, for the very reason that it only applies to blocks. And in this particular case, I could have supported an argument for a block on the grounds that not withstanding time passed, it was still preventative. Of future socking, of course. But that's by the by. The CBan is where it's at, and Moneytrees' indictment os convincing. Sorry LB! [[User talk:Serial Number 54129|<span style="color:red">——Serial Number 54129</span>]] 12:04, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
*'''Support''' we have a zero tolerance policy on sockpuppeting. Unlike other things it’s not something you can ever “get away with” by not doing it for x years or having good contributions. Unless Lightburst openly admits and apologizes for betraying the community’s trust they have no business here. [[User:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[User talk:Dronebogus|talk]]) 12:07, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
*:[[WP:HSOCK|We don't]], actually. First time and/or not very disruptive sockpuppetry is frequently met with just a short block or a warning. The [[WP:SO|standard offer]] is also often extended to sockpuppeteers, even serial offenders, meaning that they can expect an unblock after six months without abusing multiple accounts. &ndash;&#8239;[[User:Joe Roe|Joe]]&nbsp;<small>([[User talk:Joe Roe|talk]])</small> 12:12, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 
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