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:'''18.''' How often do you perform [[WP:BEFORE]] when nominating an [[WP:AFD|article for deletion]]?

::'''A:''' When reviewing new articles, it is often necessary to search for sources when the ones present, if any, are inadequate to determine notability. I do this all the time. I have even accepted articles with no sources on occasion and added a {{tl|sources exist}} tag - obviously I did a before. I almost always do searching before sending articles to AFD. In my answer to Q12, I said {{tq|spend the time it would take to do a thorough search.}} Perhaps the word “thorough” should have been emphasized. What I meant was that it is not reasonable given the volume and time constraints at NPP to be expected to always do a thorough enough search that would find every source later dug-up by others at AFD. “Before” searching is an art with lots of variability. Different people will find different sources. Even with the same sources, different people will reach different conclusions about their reliability and depth of coverage. Some good faith nominations will close as keep and that happens to everyone.{{pb}}There are exceptions. I will use [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Replacement (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)]] from Oppose#4 as an example. It could appear by looking at the discussion that this was a sloppy nomination. However, the complete story is that this 15-year old article was tagged with {{tl|notability}} since 2014 and had no references (other than ELs), was BLARed as NN, and then un-BLARED which put it in the NPP queue as a “new” article. I looked at the history and saw there was a long-standing question on notability, and that two established editors had a recent disagreement and I sent it to AFD to get a wider consensus to resolve the matter. Isn’t that and appropriate use for AFD? We tend not to have discussions about notability on article talk pages. [[User:MB|<b style="color:#034503">MB</b>]] 18:43, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

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