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RD: Salim Al-Huss
editRecent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP News
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- Nominated by Jaguarnik (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Served 4 terms as Prime Minister of Lebanon. Jaguarnik (talk) 01:11, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Not Ready. Several cn tags are in place. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁=☁=✈) 03:11, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose some cn tags and unscoured Bibliography. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 06:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
2024 Barsalogho massacre
editBlurb: At least 200 people die in an Islamic terrorist attack in Barsalogho Department, Burkina Faso. (Post)
News source(s): Al Jazeera
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- Nominated by MrJaydenfire (talk · give credit)
- Not ready while death toll is quite significant, article needs expansion and a blurb needs to be suggest. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 06:40, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support some expansion would be nice but what is there is sufficient and cited. Notoriously hard to find reliable information from Burkina Faso, so that should be taken into account. Abcmaxx (talk) 07:12, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
RD: Joe D'Alessandris
editRecent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS Sports
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- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:E977:822B:E475:C770 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Coingeek (talk · give credit) and Jkaharper (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Former coach for the Baltimore Ravens. 240F:7A:6253:1:E977:822B:E475:C770 (talk) 22:11, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Not Ready. Article needs expansion as it is to short at the moment. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁=☁=✈) 01:00, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose article is basically a stub. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 06:41, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
Arrest of Pavel Durov
editBlurb: The founder of the messenger app Telegram and the social network VK, Pavel Durov was arrested for complicity in several illegal charges (Post)
Alternative blurb: Pavel Durov, founder of the messenger app Telegram and the social network VK, is arrested for complicity in several illegal charges.
News source(s): CNN
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- Nominated by Bakhos2010 (talk · give credit)
Bakhos2010 (talk) 17:45, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose that we don't post simple arrests, we use for the conviction. Further oppose that there's no reason for this to be a separate article from Durov's until there's actually a full trial and conviction to discuss. --Masem (t) 17:49, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support major arrest of a major figure. Like if Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg got arrested. Should be ITN Scu ba (talk) 17:58, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per Masem, posting it might lead to BLP issues as none of the charges have been upheld in a court of law yet. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 18:03, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support This is rather mysterious but seems (geo)political rather than being an ordinary crime -- comparable with the persecution of people like Julian Assange. It seems to be making making headlines in all the major international media and so is quite newsworthy. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:54, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- It is certainly in the news to be notable. That sinking in sicily last week was too. very suspicious.Sportsnut24 (talk) 19:12, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - We don't generally post arrests, and he's neither such a major public figure, nor accused of so huge a crime, as to provide a good reason to vary that. With all due respect to Scu Ba above, Durov really isn't in Musk or Zuckerberg's ballpark. GenevieveDEon (talk) 21:31, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- It may be of surprise that the MAU for Telegram is significantly more than X. Kcmastrpc (talk) 23:16, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- It is not 'of surprise'. I already knew this, and I am a Telegram user myself. But Zuckerberg and Musk are massively influential multi-billionaires with other businesses to their names. If Zuckerberg had been arrested, no-one would be saying he was 'similar to Musk or Durov'. Durov wouldn't be getting mentioned at all. GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:24, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Durov was once referred to as the “Mark Zuckerburg” of Russia due to his role in VK. I digress though, he’s one of the worlds most influential businessmen, however, he maintains a low profile.
- He’s essentially accused of not suppressing “misinformation” at the behest of the EU. His arrest should scare the hell out of anyone who cares about free speech. Kcmastrpc (talk) 23:34, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- This is not the place to right great wrongs. I'm not saying that this isn't an interesting or concerning development; I'm saying that using sensationalism and peacock terms to describe it is counterproductive in making the argument that it should be on ITN. GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:37, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- It is not 'of surprise'. I already knew this, and I am a Telegram user myself. But Zuckerberg and Musk are massively influential multi-billionaires with other businesses to their names. If Zuckerberg had been arrested, no-one would be saying he was 'similar to Musk or Durov'. Durov wouldn't be getting mentioned at all. GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:24, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - perhaps if this is geopolitical, but I don't see a reason for France to be doing that, or even much speculation. No prejudice if the reason he was arrested is more significant than it appears to be.
- Support We don’t post allegations per WP:BLP and wait for the conviction, but I don’t see what prevents us from posting an arrest of a major figure if it receives media attention and is well-documented in a separate article.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 23:01, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- There shouldn't be a separate article for the arrest because that itself can be taken as a BLP violation. Nothing dramatic happened with the arrest (eg not a massive manhunt to secure him), and when you take away the reaction section on that article, it all can be covered on the bio page. Not every single event needs its own page. Masem (t) 23:17, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- I strongly suspect AfD would be a speedy keep, but this really isn’t the place to make such an argument. Kcmastrpc (talk) 23:23, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- There shouldn't be a separate article for the arrest because that itself can be taken as a BLP violation. Nothing dramatic happened with the arrest (eg not a massive manhunt to secure him), and when you take away the reaction section on that article, it all can be covered on the bio page. Not every single event needs its own page. Masem (t) 23:17, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- We can find out, because I have nominated it for deletion/merger. Please note that this is separate from the question of whether the arrest should be at ITN or not - there's a lot of nonsense out there about things which are nominated for ITN needing separate articles (eg deaths, arrests, etc) which isn't true. If the arrest article is deleted, that shouldn't in itself be an obstacle to the story being posted. (And it's my understanding that the article being at AfD suspends this discussion, so it might be best if the ITN nomination targeted the main Pavel Durov article for now.) GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:40, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yea, I was attempting to update the links because I don’t believe this discussion should be procedurally closed while the main article covering the arrest is being discussed at AfD. Kcmastrpc (talk) 23:43, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. I want to be clear that I think the story of Durov's arrest is important and interesting, just that it's not necessarily material for a separate article or an ITN posting. It's definitely a significant development. GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:46, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- This is notable even if there's no separate article. Given the amount of content in that article, this would be an extensive update of the event in the article about him, which speaks to notability of the event.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:11, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. I want to be clear that I think the story of Durov's arrest is important and interesting, just that it's not necessarily material for a separate article or an ITN posting. It's definitely a significant development. GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:46, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yea, I was attempting to update the links because I don’t believe this discussion should be procedurally closed while the main article covering the arrest is being discussed at AfD. Kcmastrpc (talk) 23:43, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- We can find out, because I have nominated it for deletion/merger. Please note that this is separate from the question of whether the arrest should be at ITN or not - there's a lot of nonsense out there about things which are nominated for ITN needing separate articles (eg deaths, arrests, etc) which isn't true. If the arrest article is deleted, that shouldn't in itself be an obstacle to the story being posted. (And it's my understanding that the article being at AfD suspends this discussion, so it might be best if the ITN nomination targeted the main Pavel Durov article for now.) GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:40, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Strong Support The arrest, which is very much ITN, of the owner of a social media/messaging app that has nearly a billion users on concerns of “moderation” and a lack of “cooperation” on criminal cases is chilling at best, fascism at worst. Kcmastrpc (talk) 23:13, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- No, it is not fascism for CEOs to be able to face legal consequences for their corporations' actions. Hyping this story up does nothing to help us judge its actual importance. GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:21, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- The French tradition is dirigisme. This case reminds me of the Pierre-sur-Haute military radio station in which Rémi Mathis was forced to "cooperate" by threat of arrest. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:28, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support arrest is making headlines worldwide and IMO I think the arrest of a founder of two quite popular social media platforms qualifies to be blurbworthy. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 06:43, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support on notability and article is of sufficient quality for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 08:11, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article seems good and per PrinceofPunjab. Arrest is clearly notable and making global headlines. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 08:20, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Wait, lean oppose He hasn't been charged with anything yet. If he does get charged (and remains in arrest) in the coming days, let's revisit. I get a feeling this news has more prominence here because most users are attuned to news related to the digital realm, but this isn't prominently featured on major French newspapers. Just another CEO who decided to flaunt regulations, it seems. Would we publish the arrest of a CEO of a company in another industry? And no, it's not a Julian Assange/Freedom of Speech issue. It's a matter of deciding to operate in France while (allegedly) flaunting French laws. Khuft (talk) 09:11, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Le Monde headlines this as Telegram CEO Pavel Durov arrested in France in world-first case. France24 has it as Russia slams France after arrest of Telegram CEO Pavel Durov. The NYT says Telegram Becomes Free Speech Flashpoint After Founder’s Arrest. So this is both prominent in major French newspapers and explicitly a freedom of speech issue. Khuft's comments are therefore counterfactual. Are they cooperating with the French authorities or what? Andrew🐉(talk) 10:02, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, are you really accusing Khuft of being a French government proxy? GenevieveDEon (talk) 10:04, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
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RD: Christoph Daum
editRecent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Der Spiegel, Associated Press
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- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:7157:6A0D:C1D6:975F (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Egeefecik35 (talk · give credit), ErnestCadine (talk · give credit), TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit), FMSky (talk · give credit) and Clibenfoart (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Noted German football coach. 240F:7A:6253:1:7157:6A0D:C1D6:975F (talk) 12:36, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article looks ready. Sadsolarpanel (talk) 13:51, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Honours section is unsourced. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 16:24, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
(Ready) RD: Betty Halbreich
editRecent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): WWD
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- Nominated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Bearian (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Article updated and well sourced. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 00:25, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Suppport no major issues in terms of citations. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 02:48, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support looks alright to me. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 16:25, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
RD: Tom Brown Jr.
editRecent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
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- Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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American survivalist. Obituary published 24 August. Thriley (talk) 22:44, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Not ready article needs a bit of restructuring and there are two cn tags but hey! Publications and media section is fully sourced. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 16:27, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
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2024 Solingen stabbing
editBlurb: A mass stabbing linked to Islamic Terrorism at a festival in Solingen, Germany leaves at least three people dead and multiple people with severe injuries. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters, WP
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- Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
Thriley (talk) 00:41, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Wait good faith nom but leaning oppose. Let's see if this is bigger than it appears at the moment. Absent more than what we know at the moment, I'd probably oppose. Worse crimes occur on a near daily basis. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:55, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Bondi got posted, why shouldn’t this? 27.96.223.192 (talk) 07:35, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Wait Similar to the Bondi stabbing so we will most likely post in due time when more info comes out 27.96.223.192 (talk) 01:06, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Wait per above. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 04:38, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Wait for more information as per above. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:18, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Mass casualty event that is being covered significantly across global media outlets. Article appears to meet the criteria for ITN and will only continue to develop. Kcmastrpc (talk) 15:57, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. There's no wait, something needs to demonstrate notability before anything else. There's been no wide societal effect (like there was with the recent Southport stabbing), and none of the people involved are notable. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 00:35, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- They have not ruled out being a terrorist attack and are investigating as if it was one. I agree if this turns out to be a simple domestic matter that it doesn't make sense to post, but if this was terrorism, that's a different matter. — Masem (t) 00:44, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Same thing with Bondi, we posted that didn’t we? 27.96.223.192 (talk) 04:26, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- It's notable due to how rare deadly knife attacks are in Germany. Furthermore it seems to be an Islamist attack claimed by IS which has had notable political ramifications. IsTheLightThatBright (talk) 13:23, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support The fact that ISIS have now claimed responsibility makes this somewhat more significant. Flyingfishee (talk) 03:42, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- ISIS is not a reliable source for the time of day, or anything else absent independent confirmation. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:50, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't recall ISIS having a history of making false claims. Is there a good example of that previously? (though this isn't particularly striking me as an overly significant story - it's not getting massive coverage compared to several other news stories running right now). Nfitz (talk) 06:57, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- The 2017 Las Vegas shooting is an obvious example. Celjski Grad (talk) 09:54, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Has that explicitly been disproven? This article discusses the Las Vegas claim:
- https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/10/isis-amaq-las-vegas/541746/ IsTheLightThatBright (talk) 12:22, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Nothing in our articles disproves the ISIS claim - and no motive has yet been determined. One of our supporting references notes that ISIS making false claims would be unusual. Though I was thinking in a European context. Nfitz (talk) 01:06, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- The 2017 Las Vegas shooting is an obvious example. Celjski Grad (talk) 09:54, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't recall ISIS having a history of making false claims. Is there a good example of that previously? (though this isn't particularly striking me as an overly significant story - it's not getting massive coverage compared to several other news stories running right now). Nfitz (talk) 06:57, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- ISIS is not a reliable source for the time of day, or anything else absent independent confirmation. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:50, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support for the following reasons: three people killed in a country where such killings are not notable, you have a notable Islamist group claiming responsibility, and involves an issue that is highly political in numerous nations and is also connected to a wider geopolitical controversy. It's currently on the frontpage of BBC, ABC News Australia, Bloomberg, HuffPost, NBC News, CNN, CBC News, AlJazeera, and WION.
- IsTheLightThatBright (talk) 12:17, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- "where such killings are not notable" should be "where such killings are not common". IsTheLightThatBright (talk) 12:18, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- you can update your original post, and delete the follow up (and you have my permission to delete this message if you wish). Kcmastrpc (talk) 13:38, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yep, I agree. It would be a different story if for example a shooting killed a few people in America we wouldn’t post but the same happening in Iceland for example would get posted. It’s about notability not death count. 27.96.223.192 (talk) 12:32, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Why don't you declare your support then? IsTheLightThatBright (talk) 13:08, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- "where such killings are not notable" should be "where such killings are not common". IsTheLightThatBright (talk) 12:18, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support No reason this shouldn’t be on ITN, significant attack. Sadsolarpanel (talk) 13:52, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Mass stabbing incidents are not actually incredibly rare in Germany, with three major ones happening just this year. If it turns out that this was terrorism, then I would reconsider. Gödel2200 (talk) 14:44, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- German police to suspect terrorism: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/08/24/german-police-hunt-for-suspect-who-killed-three-in-festival/
- But it's also wrong to say that these attacks aren't rare. There are three major ones but that's trend of political violence and Islamist attacks that are notable in itself, and three is also not common as you put it. IsTheLightThatBright (talk) 15:03, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- (1) Suspecting that this was terrorism is very different from confirming that this was terrorism.
- (2) I am not saying that these types of attacks are common, but at least three in one year certainly does not seem rare to me. Gödel2200 (talk) 15:13, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- 1) It won't be confirmed that it was terrorism until the investigation is completed which will take days if not weeks, and it may even be non-confirmed if the police go down a politically-neutral route like mental heath (as they do in the UK). The likelihood that it was terrorism is high nevertheless.
- 2) It does not need to be rare, just uncommon enough that it can go on ITN. IsTheLightThatBright (talk) 15:21, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Update blurb to include ISIS claiming responsibility Scu ba (talk) 23:07, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Done Authorities have announced the suspect is linked to IS. Kcmastrpc (talk) 00:46, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
RD: Russell Malone
editRecent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
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- Nominated by Flibirigit (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Robby.is.on (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Noted jazz guitarist. Needs more citations to be ready. Flibirigit (talk) 00:00, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose unsourced discography and couple of cn tags. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 04:39, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
RD: Peter Lundgren
editRecent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Tennis World USA, ATP Tour
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- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:6C5A:3B46:FCA7:E9D5 (talk · give credit)
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Swedish tennis player and coach of Roger Federer. His death was announced on this day. 240F:7A:6253:1:6C5A:3B46:FCA7:E9D5 (talk) 17:58, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Some more background information on Lundgren himself in the prose would be nice, his upbringing and a mention of his death is all that is really needed. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 18:50, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support The article looks good and the person is definitely notable enough to post. 27.96.223.192 (talk) 22:22, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support article meets the bare minimum requirement. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 04:40, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) Summer Koshien
editThe following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Blurb: Kyoto International wins the 106th Summer Koshien. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Kyoto International wins the 106th Summer Koshien for the first time ever.
News source(s): NHK Kyodo KBS World AP-Yonhap
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- Nominated by Meganinja202 (talk · give credit)
- Oppose Sensationalism isn’t allowed for ITN. Pretty sure we don’t post school tournaments here either. 27.96.223.192 (talk) 10:05, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- If March Madness is allowed, i see no reason for it not be, specially when its a notable event that has various articles about it, even Major League Baseball has wrote a article about the tournament and its relevancy. Meganinja202 (talk) 12:21, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose We really should not be posting any amateur level sports in the first place, but keep in mind that for March Madness, the huge number of people that watch that across the globe has an impact of why we post it. However, that definitely cannot be said for a high school-level tournament that has little global coverage. --Masem (t) 12:44, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- how about highly cultural events principle? Summer Koshien is a very important tournament culturallly in Japan and its known around the world in part by various productions made about the tournament (check In popular culture) Meganinja202 (talk) 16:24, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose good faith nom, but not known or covered globally as a sporting event. Natg 19 (talk) 15:39, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- had you guys checked the The popular culture tab ??? it is litteraly known by many forms not just by the direct broadcast of the tournament itself, I am sure lot of people know about the tournament thanks to ace of diamond or major Meganinja202 (talk) 16:19, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- As I mention below, these 2 mangas/animes are still Japanese coverage, which does not demonstrate worldwide or global significance. Natg 19 (talk) 17:14, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- had you guys checked the The popular culture tab ??? it is litteraly known by many forms not just by the direct broadcast of the tournament itself, I am sure lot of people know about the tournament thanks to ace of diamond or major Meganinja202 (talk) 16:19, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Not important enough for ITN. Tradediatalk 16:04, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose nowhere near meeting ITN significence criteria, not least because there isn't even a separate article for the event (the linked article is to the general event Japanese High School Baseball Championship which barely mentions it. This feels like a WP:SNOW close. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:25, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Theres a group of users (including myself) that updates stuffs about the tournament annually, but is not dedicated enough to make annual articles about the tournament, i dont know if counts but the ja and the zh|the zh language wikis has separated article every year , i plan to translate them in a future when i have more of a free time Meganinja202 (talk) 16:37, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- There is no need for you to reply to every other oppose !vote. Please stop. Duly signed, ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 16:50, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- I am replying beacuse it seems clearly some editors dont know about the cultural impact of the tournament, litteraly a person made its judgement saying that he feels "there has not much enough articles" about the tournament, i feel that without a counterpoint, it may be a unfair vote...
I heared that the ITN people were too demanding, but i feel that is TOO MUCH demanding and request shoud be put more thought into it, sprecialy due its cultural impact Meganinja202 (talk) 17:03, 23 August 2024 (UTC)- There is a cultural aspect, but it is still within Japan, and covered in Japanese media or Japanese entertainment. ITN tries to highlight events that have a worldwide/international impact or approach, and unfortunately Summer Koshien does not meet the bar. There are few news articles outside of Japan covering the results of this tournament. Natg 19 (talk) 17:12, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- I am replying beacuse it seems clearly some editors dont know about the cultural impact of the tournament, litteraly a person made its judgement saying that he feels "there has not much enough articles" about the tournament, i feel that without a counterpoint, it may be a unfair vote...
- There is no need for you to reply to every other oppose !vote. Please stop. Duly signed, ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 16:50, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Theres a group of users (including myself) that updates stuffs about the tournament annually, but is not dedicated enough to make annual articles about the tournament, i dont know if counts but the ja and the zh|the zh language wikis has separated article every year , i plan to translate them in a future when i have more of a free time Meganinja202 (talk) 16:37, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose The nomination has multiple issue. First of all, the topic is quite niche and appears to have no international coverage. Second, there is no independent article on the just finished season. Third, the nominated article is in a poor shape as the majority of the content in the article is unsourced. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 17:28, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
August 22
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(Posted) RD: Sphen
editRecent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS News
Credits:
- Nominated by 193.165.236.224 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Notable pair of penguins, article seems to be in good shape. 193.165.236.224 (talk) 13:16, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support the article has been significantly updated and there is specific coverage of the death of Sphen. As such, I believe this meets the threshold of ITN. Note: a separate article is not required for ITNRD, as per
Individuals who do not have their own article but who have significant coverage on an article about a group (e.g. one member of a musical group) are eligible for a recent deaths entry on a case-by-case basis.
, which I believe is met here. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:22, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support RIP to one of the most unusual queer icons. The article is in a good shape and looks ready to be posted however, his death was announced yesterday as I read it in the today's morning paper. I think this entry should be moved to August 22nd. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 17:20, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Done. Natg 19 (talk) 17:25, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Posted -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:41, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) Canada railroad shutdown
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Blurb: Canadian rail freight traffic shuts down after the Canadian National Railway Company and Canadian Pacific Kansas City fail to reach an agreement with the Teamsters union. (Post)
News source(s): The Wall Street Journal
Credits:
- Nominated by ElijahPepe (talk · give credit)
- Oppose the article is literally 2 sentences long. RachelTensions (talk) 05:46, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose article is a stub and news is not something that is blurbworthy. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 09:19, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Rail strikes are not unusual and I don't see that this one is particularly more noteworthy. Black Kite (talk) 09:21, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Article is a stub and such events are not uncommon. Editor 5426387 (talk) 13:18, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Article is currently a stub, and noteworthiness has not been demonstrated. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 13:34, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Oppose The article is a stub which makes this nom a non-starter. In terms of notability, as a Canadian, this is big news in my city and is being very widely discussed. However, I accept that it is currently regional news and thus not sufficiently notable for ITN. If the rail strike persists and causes a cascading economic impact, we should revisit. FlipandFlopped ツ 14:15, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support on notability, once the article is properly expanded. As the WaPo headline says, Huge Canadian railway work stoppage threatens U.S. economy. Nsk92 (talk) 14:46, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose — Local dispute. STSC (talk)
- Oppose as the article is a stub. However, if the strike ends up causing significant economic damage, then I might reconsider. Gödel2200 (talk) 17:27, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose The shutdown didn't even last a day. Johndavies837 (talk) 00:52, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Mike Lynch
editRecent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNBC
Credits:
- Nominated by Kcmastrpc (talk · give credit)
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Bayesian (yacht) sinking victim that was missing has been found. – Kcmastrpc (talk) 12:17, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article looks detailed and well sourced. Flyingfishee (talk) 13:10, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support With the blurb nom closed, we should promptly RD this. FlipandFlopped ツ 15:23, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Posted Looks solid to me. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:43, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment So the story is evolving now into a criminal investigation. I don’t know if this rises to the level of ITN blurb; but it’s certainly interesting.[1] Kcmastrpc (talk) 14:42, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- I would say not... it's in the news, and generating lots of headlines, but the lasting impact and wider effects of this are fairly limited. — Amakuru (talk) 15:57, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
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RD: David Anfam
editRecent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ARTnews
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- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:7157:6A0D:C1D6:975F (talk · give credit)
- Created by Strattonsmith (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit) and Strattonsmith (talk · give credit)
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English art historian, curator and author. 240F:7A:6253:1:7157:6A0D:C1D6:975F (talk) 11:47, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Support while article is fully sourced and meets bare minimum requirement, I would still suggest a bit more expansion. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 16:29, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
RD: Roger Cook
editRecent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): This Old House's website
Credits:
- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:5D40:44D2:9C5E:9E6 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Seasider53 (talk · give credit) and Dmoore5556 (talk · give credit)
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American landscaper and star of This Old House. 240F:7A:6253:1:5D40:44D2:9C5E:9E6 (talk) 15:11, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Oppose the article needs a bit more expansion and there are couple of issues with some of the cited sources such as a Facebook source. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 17:36, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
RD: Nick Mileti
editRecent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS Sports
Credits:
- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:5D40:44D2:9C5E:9E6 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by TheCorriynial (talk · give credit), Normantas Bataitis (talk · give credit), Bob305 (talk · give credit) and Vycl1994 (talk · give credit)
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Founder of Cleveland Cavaliers. 240F:7A:6253:1:5D40:44D2:9C5E:9E6 (talk) 13:33, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose couple of paragraphs ending without a footnote and Publications sections sourcing. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 17:38, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Al Attles
editRecent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:
- Nominated by Natg 19 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by CalDoesIt (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Former NBA player and coach. In good shape. Natg 19 (talk) 00:13, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support article appears alright to me. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 09:18, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Sufficient quality.—Bagumba (talk) 10:55, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Posted -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:48, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Bill Pascrell
editRecent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2]
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- Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
- Updated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)
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Member of the US House – Muboshgu (talk) 16:24, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article seems well sourced and no tags on it. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 17:17, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- Wait
there are couple of paragraphs ending without a footnote and Caucus memberships section needs more sourcing.ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 17:23, 21 August 2024 (UTC)- Support article is ready now. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 09:09, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support @PrinceofPunjab: Fixed up sourcing issues. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:42, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- Posted -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:54, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
RD: Nell McCafferty
editRecent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Irish Times
Credits:
- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:6C49:608C:B2F6:5005 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by INgIEroC (talk · give credit)
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Irish journalist and feminist campainger. 240F:7A:6253:1:6C49:608C:B2F6:5005 (talk) 13:41, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose early life section is unsourced and so are some of the other paragraphs. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 17:24, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- I've updated some of the references to be up to date now @PrinceofPunjab Duck Dur (talk) 21:44, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Duck Dur early life section still needs a bit more sources and Bibliography section is missing ISBN codes. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 09:07, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- I will update them later today Duck Dur (talk) 11:50, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Duck Dur early life section still needs a bit more sources and Bibliography section is missing ISBN codes. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 09:07, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- I've updated some of the references to be up to date now @PrinceofPunjab Duck Dur (talk) 21:44, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) 2024 Yemen floods
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Blurb: Floods in western Yemen results in the deaths of at least 61 people and the displacement of 6,042 families (Post)
News source(s): Anadolu Agency
Credits:
- Nominated by Abo Yemen (talk · give credit)
- Created by Noble Attempt (talk · give credit)
- Support The floods are a notable event, and the article is thorough enough for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 13:08, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
Support death toll is significant enough and article is in a good shape.ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 17:25, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- Upon further thinking, I change my vote to Oppose now too due to insufficient updates. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 09:10, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Last update was for August 18. Stephen 19:19, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Doesn't seem to be in the news. A news search for "flooding" turns up stories about recent flooding in the Balearics, Bangladesh, Connecticut, Korea, Japan, Sudan, etc. Not seeing anything at all about Yemen. Andrew🐉(talk) 19:46, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per Andrew Davidson. FlipandFlopped ツ 14:17, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose The article does not make it clear that significant flooding has occurred very recently, and the death toll applies to floods more generally taking place throughout July and August. Gödel2200 (talk) 17:25, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support on notability. BilboBeggins (talk) 21:34, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Stale There's worldwide coverage of this--- more than a week ago. That's when this should have been posted. --Masem (t) 21:45, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Stale per above This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 22:18, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
August 20
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RD: Maryvonne Le Dizès
editRecent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Strad
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- Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)
- Created by Rigg (talk · give credit)
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Violinist of the Ensemble intercontemporain for more than 20 years, collaborating with founder Pierre Boulez and other composers, commissioning new works, teaching for decades - and had no article until her death became known on 20 August (only one in Russian which we didn't consult). There could be more detail about recordings but I'm out for the day. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:19, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support article looks good enough to me. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 16:32, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
RD: Atsuko Tanaka
editRecent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Official Statement by Hikaru Tanaka on Twitter
Credits:
- Nominated by Tofusaurus (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Japanese voice actress. Tofusaurus (talk) 13:16, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
Comment if you take out the tables with her roles, there is very little article left. JA-wiki seems to have more thorough information about her life that could be translated and used.Jaguarnik (talk) 17:34, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Support, the article has been made much better.Jaguarnik (talk) 03:39, 23 August 2024 (UTC)- Comment I’ve tagged the article as a stub. Schwede66 07:56, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose surprised at the almost fully sourced filmography tables, but article needs a bit more prose. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 17:35, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support I've added a lot of sourced prose translated from the jawiki page; should be of sufficient quality. ミラP@Miraclepine 23:59, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
RD: Sam Landsberger
editRecent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3], [4]
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- Nominated by Happily888 (talk · give credit)
- Created by Totallynotarandomalt69 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)
Article needs updating
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Happily888 (talk) 12:01, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose article is barely a stub. Natg 19 (talk) 16:23, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Tragic, but there is almost no prose to the article. I can count the sentences in it on my fingers. Not good nor lengthy enough for RD. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 01:38, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose article is a stub. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 17:34, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose stub article with practically no information about his life, created after death, borderline notability if any. Black Kite (talk) 09:23, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Maria Branyas
editRecent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS News, El País
Credits:
- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:900E:954A:2704:19B9 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by MIDI (talk · give credit) and INgIEroC (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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American-born Spanish supercentenarian. 240F:7A:6253:1:900E:954A:2704:19B9 (talk) 11:44, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Oldest Living Person, RIP MyriadSims (talk) 14:32, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Oldest person alive dies is notable. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 17:18, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article is good and sourced, has been since previous title holder died. And we did list her in RD. TheCorriynial (talk) 17:36, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support A good article with biography and archive photos. Trepang2 (talk) 19:05, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support page meets requirements. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 21:28, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Posted Memory eternal. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:38, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Post posting support RIP, article quality appears fine. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 23:02, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
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2024 Kiribati parliamentary election
editBlurb: Taneti Maamau's (pictured) Tobwaan Kiribati Party wins the most seats in the 2024 Kiribati parliamentary election but not enough to form a government outright (Post)
News source(s): [5][6][7]
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- Nominated by Scu ba (talk · give credit)
Article needs updating
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It may be a minor country, but it was still a national election. Article could use an update to the infobox, as well as an aftermath section. Scu ba (talk) 02:49, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose The article contains a bunch of unsourced tables, and doesn't mention the results of the election in the lead. Gödel2200 (talk) 17:20, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Two days later, and it's still a somewhat sad looking election article. Schwede66 05:52, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) Superyacht sinks
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Blurb: The superyacht Bayesian is sunk in a storm and the missing passengers include tycoon Mike Lynch (Post)
News source(s): BBC
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- Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
- Created by Stephan Schulz (talk · give credit)
Article updated
- Comment The article (Bayesian (yacht)) should probably be Sinking of the Bayesian as the yacht itself isn't notable, only the event. The article is, regardless, currently a stub. Black Kite (talk) 20:12, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose good faith nom. One dead + several missing does not rise to the level of an ITN blurb. Additionally, article quality is nowhere near adequate. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:12, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose as comparatively trivial. An RD nom for Lynch may be in order soon, though. The Kip (contribs) 21:40, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. Just a human interest story that's a tad more notable because it involves someone of note. But fatal vehicle incidents are fairly routine. The target article probably shouldn't even have been created. DarkSide830 (talk) 01:01, 20 August 2024 (UTC)'
- Soft oppose but note that this would be an appropriate form of RD blurb - the death as an event is notable This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 01:38, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose blurb, Support RD per Orbitalbuzzsaw. FlipandFlopped ツ 13:37, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose blurb, Oppose RD as Lynch has not been confirmed to be dead. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:49, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose all the things Tragic accident, notable person is probably dead, and if confirmed, RD makes sense. However, his impact on this world and untimely death do not rise to level of ITN blurb. Kcmastrpc (talk) 14:01, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose blurb, support RD if death confirmed. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 15:17, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
RD: Phil Donahue
editRecent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC News (USA)
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- Nominated by Staraction (talk · give credit)
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American talk show personality. Staraction (talk | contribs) 14:02, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support I don't see any citation-needed or other issues that would prevent this from being listed pbp 15:40, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose a couple of cn tags, The Phil Donahue Show section does not have a source. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ਗੱਲਬਾਤ 15:54, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose due to citation needed tags. Suonii180 (talk) 17:41, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support, Donahue reinvented the talk show format and brought the concept up a level or two. Randy Kryn (talk) 23:20, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Every person with an article is deemed notable enough for RD. So the only issue to be discussed here relates to the quality/sourcing of the article (see WP:ITNRD). Tradediatalk 16:55, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support CN tags seem to be resolved Kcmastrpc (talk) 16:57, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- As of now, I can see 4 "citation needed". Tradediatalk 22:30, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
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