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• Gliese 555 → HN Librae (currently a redirect back to Gliese 555) (move · discuss) – The majority of the references about this star prefer the name HN Librae, which, in addition to being the common name, is simpler and more informative. 21 Andromedae (talk) 12:54, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

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• Euphoria Morning → Euphoria Mourning (currently a redirect back to Euphoria Morning) (move · discuss) – This gives the article title the same name as the proper album title mentioned in the article. Motorologist (talk) 11:04, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

There's a case to be made for this, but it's not uncontroversial. 162 etc. (talk) 18:21, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

I won't move this because Euphoria Morning seems to be the WP:COMMONNAME. Additionally, the lead can be revised to start with Euphoria Morning followed by Euphoria Mourning, explaining the latter. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 20:25, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Euphoria Morning is the name that the artist himself expressed regret in choosing and made efforts to correct, according to source [5] from the article, it isn't generally accepted as the official or informal title for the album. Because the Euphoria Mourning album title was a correction rather than an simply an alternate or later title, editing the lead to match the title seems like it would require odd, unnecessary language and possibly omissions to avoid suggesting the article title should be changed too, though I'm not aware of how other cases like this are taken. Motorologist (talk) 07:00, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Being familiar with Cornell's career and this album, I think the current situation is correct and should remain as-is (except for the article's opening sentence). Even though the first edition's title was not what Cornell intended, that is the version that received pro reviews, made the charts, and attracted a Grammy nomination, so that is the official title per WP's WP:COMMONNAME rule. The reissued version has the slightly different title, but that version received much less media coverage and public notice, and the reason for the spelling change is already described adequately in the article. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:29, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• (character) → (punctuation) (currently a redirect back to (character)) (move · discuss) – This would make it more consistent with the pages that it disambiguates between, of which two end with (punctuation), zero end with (character), and one ends with neither. I figure that the See also section can include both links to character-related pages and links to punctuation-related pages. Care to differ or discuss with me? The N^th User 07:58, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

@The Nth User I don't think underscores are considered a type of punctuation. C F A 💬 15:15, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

• Ashley Cain-Gribble → Ashley Cain (figure skater) (currently a redirect back to Ashley Cain-Gribble) (move · discuss) – Cain no longer goes by her double-barrelled married name, having divorced her husband in 2022 APM (talk) 13:06, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

  Are there any reliable sources that confirm this? I don't see any cited in the article. A quick Google search turned up this Reddit thread from 2022, Is Ashley Cain-Gribble getting divorced?, but no confirmation. Most news sources that I found from 2022 still referred to her as Ashley Cain-Gribble, but the news coverage seems to drop off after she and her skating partner retired from competition. She's referred to as Ashley Cain-Gribble in this People Magazine piece from 2023, but she goes by Ashley Cain on social media. Her official website has her as Ashley Cain at the top of the page, though the bottom of the page still reads, "Ashley Cain-Gribble & Timothy LeDuc’s official website is written and produced by Ashley & Timothy...". Buffalkill (talk) 14:04, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

  Frustratingly, it doesn't appear so. They must've finalized the divorce sometime last year as Dalton Gribble will be marrying again, but I couldn't find any confirmation of this from reliable sources. It doesn't help that she shares her name with a semi-pro footballer and reality television personality who also split with his partner around the same time. APM (talk) 15:43, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

  @AmorPatiturMoras, I also couldn't find sources for that, but Ashley Cain-Gribble appears to be her WP:COMMONNAME. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 22:15, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

• Bird Island, South Georgia → Bird Island (South Georgia) (currently a redirect back to Bird Island, South Georgia) (move · discuss) – Consistent form of disambiguation with other islands in the group and per guidelines at WP:PLACEDAB. Turnagra (talk) 23:11, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Per WP:NC(), we add parenthetical disambiguation when none of the other solutions lead to an optimal article title. But there is another solution here: comma-separated disambiguation. Per the article titles policy, With place names, if the disambiguating term is a higher-level administrative division, commas are frequently used. As such, I think that this deserves discussion, as parenthetical disambiguation might be suboptimal here. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 02:56, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Black Rock, South Georgia → Black Rock (South Georgia) (currently a redirect back to Black Rock, South Georgia) (move · discuss) – Consistent form of disambiguation with other islands in the group and per guidelines at WP:PLACEDAB. Turnagra (talk) 23:11, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Per WP:NC(), we add parenthetical disambiguation when none of the other solutions lead to an optimal article title. But there is another solution here: comma-separated disambiguation. Per the article titles policy, With place names, if the disambiguating term is a higher-level administrative division, commas are frequently used. As such, I think that this deserves discussion, as parenthetical disambiguation might be suboptimal here. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 02:56, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Grass Island, South Georgia → Grass Island (South Georgia) (currently a redirect back to Grass Island, South Georgia) (move · discuss) – Consistent form of disambiguation with other islands in the group and per guidelines at WP:PLACEDAB. Turnagra (talk) 23:11, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Per WP:NC(), we add parenthetical disambiguation when none of the other solutions lead to an optimal article title. But there is another solution here: comma-separated disambiguation. Per the article titles policy, With place names, if the disambiguating term is a higher-level administrative division, commas are frequently used. As such, I think that this deserves discussion, as parenthetical disambiguation might be suboptimal here. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 02:56, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Saddle Island, South Georgia → Saddle Island (South Georgia) (currently a redirect back to Saddle Island, South Georgia) (move · discuss) – Consistent form of disambiguation with other islands in the group and per guidelines at WP:PLACEDAB. Turnagra (talk) 23:11, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Per WP:NC(), we add parenthetical disambiguation when none of the other solutions lead to an optimal article title. But there is another solution here: comma-separated disambiguation. Per the article titles policy, With place names, if the disambiguating term is a higher-level administrative division, commas are frequently used. As such, I think that this deserves discussion, as parenthetical disambiguation might be suboptimal here. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 02:56, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• Wiener Derby → Vienna derby (currently a redirect back to Wiener Derby) (move · discuss) – per MOS:AT, WP:TRANSLITERATE, and WP:COMMONNAME. Vienna is the most commonly-used name for the city and derby is a common noun. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 13:56, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

  @KingSkyLord: I think this one requires discussion. Of the two English-language sources I found, one calls it the Wiener Derby[1] and the other calls it Viennese Derby[2], "Viennese" being the correct translation of "Wiener". Station1 (talk) 18:37, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

  @Station1: For articles about association football rivalries, common practice is to use the name of the place not an adjective in the article title (e.g. Dundee derby, not Dundonian derby; South Madrid derby, not South Madrilean derby or Derbi del sur de Madrid), unless it is always only referred to what they call it in their language (e.g. El Clásico, Revierderby). Those two sources are not concrete enough to keep the article's title in German instead of English. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 21:45, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

  I notice Revierderby says "Outside Germany, it is often referred to as the Ruhr derby", and that some titles do use the adjectival form, such as Montenegrin Derby. I'm not necessarily going to oppose this if it is the convention, but I would be hesitant to move an article to a title that doesn't appear in sources without giving others the chance for input. Station1 (talk) 05:17, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• IBM AIX → AIX (currently a redirect back to IBM AIX) (move · discuss) – Shorter, more concise. AIX already redirects to this article, and WP:DIFFCAPS should allow for this. DigitalIceAge (talk) 03:45, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
  • A previous RM that is still on the talk page found no consensus for this exact move. As such, I am moving this to the "contested" area. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 04:52, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Jace Chan → JACE (move · discuss) – Jace Chan is the English name of Chan Hoi Wing, but we hope to present her under the stage name JACE on Wikipedia. Christineyuu (talk) 09:21, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

  Jace Chan appears to be her WP:COMMONNAME. Also, you said "we", do you have any relationship with Jace. If so, you have to show follow the rules t WP:COI. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 11:08, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

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