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You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Snooker world rankings 1976/1977 § Requested move 11 June 2024. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:31, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Infoboxes
editDoes anyone know what has happened to all the infoboxes? They have all changed visually and (IMO) now look awful. Alan (talk) 10:38, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Short answer: Bug.
- Long answer: Responsive Vector 2022 is out, the idea is to make Vector 2022 more usable on mobile... I think. Not sure. It's supposed to apply Minerva (i.e. mobile) styling at small resolutions but it's doing it at all resolutions instead. Snowmanonahoe (talk · contribs · typos) 11:33, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- They seem to be back to the way they were now. What is going on? Alan (talk) 20:08, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- It was a bug, and the bug got fixed. Snowmanonahoe (talk · contribs · typos) 20:12, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- They seem to be back to the way they were now. What is going on? Alan (talk) 20:08, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- The actual issue you saw was a bug as far as I can tell. It's not super uncommon. Looks like it's fixed now. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 21:24, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Task T367463 on phab if you are technical. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 21:26, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
2025 World Champs sponsor
editFor those unaware, Cazoo entered administration officially earlier this month. While WST still continues to list Cazoo as a principal partner of the tour, and as a sponsor of the World Championship, I doubt that this will remain, as I'm sure the administrators will be trying to make the business meaningful [even though the writing is on the wall, figuratively, for the brand as a whole]. Based on this, how do we want to approach this situation regards to how everything is written on the 2025 World Snooker Championship page? Do we remove all references to Cazoo being sponsor of this event, until we're given confirmation by WST that they are remaining as sponsor for this edition, or place a note somewhere to say that this is in doubt due to its administration? --CitroenLover (talk) 19:44, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Neither. If there are sources (especially the official ones) that say they are sponsoring the event, then we should also say that. We are not here to theory out what is happening. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:48, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- The only source suggesting they are is a couple of static pages (ie the tickets and tournament pages on WST's website) which can have this label changed at any time and without warning. I don't think a piece of text on a very generic page about a tournament counts as a meaningful source that they are going to be a sponsor: remember that last years' UK Championship had no sponsor mentioned until the eleventh hour when it became MrQ, but if a piece of text on a generic page constitutes a meaningful source, I guess it needs to remain... despite the unlikeliness of Cazoo sponsoring anything lol. --CitroenLover (talk) 19:57, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
Michael White
editMichael White (snooker player) will need updating and all other parts of the wiki updated, as he has just been sentenced in a court of law in Swansea today. He has already been deleted from the players page on the wst website, despite starting the season in the Championship League. Since he’s technically a pro, being deleted from existence on the players pages is a massive red flag that he has just been banned from the sport, and we’re likely to get a statement from wst/wpbsa to confirm. This is confirmed through a Facebook post by his [presumably former] wife, which i won’t link here to avoid harassment of the individual. —CitroenLover (talk) 21:43, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Idle speculation at the moment, so nothing to do except reverting inappropriate edits. Nigej (talk) 06:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- No longer speculative; the statement has been posted https://wpbsa.com/wpbsa-statement-michael-white/ CitroenLover (talk) 09:09, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Nigej question to ask: should we bother having the column in the performance table for this season for White, considering he played just one tournament before being removed from the tour? It would make more sense to just migrate that information to a heading that says "he played in the 2024 championship league at the start of the season and succeeded in the first group stage, but lost in the second group stage. This would be the only snooker he would play in the season, as he was subsequently removed from the WPBSA and WST after being jailed for assault against his former partner.", rather than having a column containing just tons of "A", "WD" or "DNQ" --CitroenLover (talk) 19:03, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- I take your point. Probably I'd be inclined to have a column for this season but not a big issue for me personally. Nigej (talk) 06:01, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Nigej question to ask: should we bother having the column in the performance table for this season for White, considering he played just one tournament before being removed from the tour? It would make more sense to just migrate that information to a heading that says "he played in the 2024 championship league at the start of the season and succeeded in the first group stage, but lost in the second group stage. This would be the only snooker he would play in the season, as he was subsequently removed from the WPBSA and WST after being jailed for assault against his former partner.", rather than having a column containing just tons of "A", "WD" or "DNQ" --CitroenLover (talk) 19:03, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- No longer speculative; the statement has been posted https://wpbsa.com/wpbsa-statement-michael-white/ CitroenLover (talk) 09:09, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- We might need to also take him off the current rankings, but until the WPBSA update them he's still going to be listed. Sad stuff. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:15, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Lee Vilenski request that the article about Michael White be protected from further edits, as its being repeatedly vandalised by anon IP's. -- CitroenLover (talk) 10:20, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
2024 British Open - redirects to the golf
edit@Nigej: There is a redirect ([1]), created by Randy Kryn on 8 July, which links the 2024 British Open to the 2024 Open Championship golf.
Some pages, including the season article (done by an IP user) and the template (done by me), have had the link changed to British Open, which are wrong and should be reverted.
I want to create the 2024 British Open article soon because the qualifying matches get under way next week, on 31 July.
Could we get this redirect deleted please? Alan (talk) 09:39, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- There's no need to delete the 2024 British Open article, you can simply edit it as normal. Add a hatnote as has been done at 2023 British Open. Given that all previous British Open snooker tournaments follow the same naming convention I'd have thought that this was a valid thing to do (although I see that British Open redirects to The Open Championship). Nigej (talk) 10:38, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Nigej: Surely the redirect (not the article) needs to be deleted. Alan (talk) 11:09, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Nigej: I just tried to create the 2024 British Open article, but the redirect won't let me. It just keeps taking me to the golf. I don't understand why Randy Kryn made the redirect in the first place. Please could we get the redirect deleted? Alan (talk) 13:35, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- OK - I get it now. I just created the article by changing the redirect page. Sorry - getting old and stupid. Alan (talk) 14:08, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Nigej: I just tried to create the 2024 British Open article, but the redirect won't let me. It just keeps taking me to the golf. I don't understand why Randy Kryn made the redirect in the first place. Please could we get the redirect deleted? Alan (talk) 13:35, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Nigej: Surely the redirect (not the article) needs to be deleted. Alan (talk) 11:09, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
George Ganim
editBit of a longshot, probably. I don't have access to any decent newspaper databases at the moment. I'm trying to find out why Australian player George Ganim was originally listed in the 1987–88 snooker world rankings but then seems to have dropped out. I can only assume that, like Perrie Mans, he resigned from the WPBSA between the time the list was published in Snooker Scene and it appearing in the Benson and Hedges Yearbook. Any info/sources? Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 01:12, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
Wuhan dates
editSee the tournament talk page. Alan (talk) 13:57, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
British Open qualifiers
editThe WST live-scores site ([2]) appears to be screwed up again. This is getting really annoying. Alan (talk) 09:33, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- It seems to have just come to life. Alan (talk) 10:24, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- ... but there's no frames data for the Thepchaiya Un-Nooh v Alexander Ursenbacher match. Not even CueTracker has them. Does anyone know if there were any centuries? Alan (talk) 12:03, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- No centuries. Youtube: [3] Nigej (talk) 13:32, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you - none at all today so far then. Alan (talk) 13:47, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- No centuries. Youtube: [3] Nigej (talk) 13:32, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- ... but there's no frames data for the Thepchaiya Un-Nooh v Alexander Ursenbacher match. Not even CueTracker has them. Does anyone know if there were any centuries? Alan (talk) 12:03, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Turkish Masters
editSuggest that Turkish Masters be replaced with {{R with history}}
pointing to the 2022 Turkish Masters, with any relevant information placed into a category for "Legacy" (namely, the information regarding the non-existent 2023 edition and the presumption that it could have been on the 2024 calendar). We already have similar for the WST Classic and WST Pro Series, although arguably it would be better if we did not use the year-based naming convention for single-edition tournaments, as it implies the tournament has been held more than once. --CitroenLover (talk) 18:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC)