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Resignation of Barkeep49 from ArbCom

Original announcement

• Thank you for everything Barkeep. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 02:25, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
• I will miss Barkeep on the Committee, having spoken with him on so many occasions. I still resolutely believe that the Committee is enriched by diverse perspectives; I will miss his thoughts and his work for all of us.
  I wish that we didn't have to disagree so much, but I respect that Barkeep was unfailingly frank with me. Best wishes, Sdrqaz (talk) 02:47, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
• Great loss, for sure! But I take comfort that he will be watching out for us with the U4C stuff, as I don't keep up to date with, but find myself eternally worried about all the stuff that goes on outside of Wikipedia that affects Wikipedia. Usedtobecool ☎️ 02:49, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
• I understand your reasons, but I'm really sad to see you go. You've always seemed to me like the adult in the room. RoySmith (talk) 02:52, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
• thanks for your service o7 ... sawyer * he/they * talk 02:53, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
• 🫡 – robertsky (talk) 03:16, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
• As long as bar is being kept at some worthwhile establishment, I begrudgingly accept that it won't be at the dive where I have enjoyed their service of late. DMacks (talk) 03:33, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
• Thanks for your service. – DreamRimmer (talk) 03:37, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
• Thank you! Perhaps I'll get the opportunity to vote for you in an arbcom election again sometime. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:34, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
• Thanks for everything from me too! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 07:28, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
• Nice one Barkeep.Original announcement "Arbcom, now going to hell in a handcart..." 🤪 All aboard! ——Serial Number 54129 08:24, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

  ArbCom always feels like it's moments away from going to hell even when things are going well. So my presence or not is unlikely to alter that course. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:32, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

• Barkeep was, in my mind, one of my most trusted colleagues while I served, indeed he was one of the best arbitrators the committee ever had. The committee, and therefore the wider project, will need to work hard to fill this gap. Worm^TT(talk) 10:09, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

  These are very kind words that I will not hold you to when someone who is actually one of the best arbs the committee has decides to run again. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:32, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

  This is the same mindset I had. Barkeep gave advocacy a new name and was a frequent consult on odd situations that I could bounce my thoughts off with and get a well rounded response. Will be missed even if my consulting level is low these days. -- Amanda (she/her) 05:01, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

• I second everything Worm says. Barkeep's decison is most understandable, but still leaves a big hole in the committee. In the context of a frustrating thread from a few months ago, I had said on the mailing list, mostly but not entirely tongue-in-cheek, that he had been identified as the "chief of ArbCom". I wish Barkeep the best with his endeavours with U4C. Maxim (talk) 13:37, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

  These are some very kind words, though I've long thought the committee of equals approach was a strength of ArbCom's. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:32, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

• Thank you for being one of the most thoughtful members of Arbcom I've ever dealt with. ~Awilley (talk) 16:49, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
• ArbCom will be the worse off for lack of Barkeeps' presence on it. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^talk 16:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
• ArbCom (and online committees in general) work best when the members have a variety of viewpoints and can have a frank exchange of views in private but still recognise that each member is trying to do The Right Thing™. Barkeep was the master of that. I'm sorry to see you go but wish you every success with the U4C. Who knows, you might even get time to edit the wiki occasionally! ;) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:35, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
• I have always valued your honesty and integrity, even when we were in disagreement. I also understand that the being an active arb can be exhausting. This is a loss for the committee but hopefully a gain for you personally. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 17:40, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
• Goodbye Arbkeep, hello U4Ckeep! Thanks for your service. DanCherek (talk) 17:50, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
• I'm not happy to see you go, but the U4C is off to a good start with such a level-headed, thoughtful person on board. - Aoidh (talk) 19:44, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
• It's a great loss for ArbCom, but thank you very, very much for your genuinely excellent work. Even when you and I have seen things differently, I have always had the deepest of respect for you as an honest broker, and as one of the best Arbs ever in terms of communicating actively with the community. Let's all belly up to the bar, and raise a glass! --Tryptofish (talk) 21:02, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
• Thanks for all the time you've devoted to ArbCom, Barkeep. I was really glad to see you elected to the U4C and hope you can make that a success. – Joe (talk) 10:41, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
• Thank you! Alanscottwalker (talk) 17:15, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
• Slightly delayed thanks, but none-the-less big thanks for your work on ArbCom. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 19:40, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
• Thank you for your invaluable contributions and collaborative spirit. It has been a pleasure to work with you in this capacity and I look forward to future collaborations in others. We will miss you in the monthly calls. Happy trails on behalf of the Committee Support team! Sincerely, Xeno (WMF) (talk) 12:43, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
• A bit late to the party, but thank you @Barkeep49: for your work and engagement! Nadzik (talk) 11:02, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Why does ARBPIA allow userspace as an exception?

See Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Palestine-Israel articles. Doug Weller talk 10:47, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

This doesn't answer the question, but there is currently a request to change that at Amendment request: Definition of the "area of conflict" Clause 4 (b). SilverLocust 💬 18:28, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

@SilverLocust Thanks. Doug Weller talk 18:49, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Refresh of arbitration policy and procedures

Original announcement

• Regarding To approve and remove access to (i) CheckUser and Oversight tools and (ii) mailing lists maintained by the Arbitration Committee I'd be more generic than "mailing list" because this also applies to IRC, CU wiki, VRTS, and maybe other things I've missed. I'd say something like "the associated private communication channels". RoySmith (talk) 21:08, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

  Roy, the alternative venues you identify do not technically come under our aegis and so we do not control them. I think that if we were to give ourselves authority over VRTS and CheckUser wiki etc, we would be accused of a power grab . For further comments, I'd advise commenting on the consultation page. Thanks, Sdrqaz (talk) 21:17, 6 August 2024 (UTC)