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This fish is also marketed under the names tra & swai (Pangasius Hypothalamous) The other "trade name" that has come to life recently is Ponga and that typically refers to (Pangasius Pangasius). The only "true" Basa fish is the species Pangasius Bocourti. The common consumer in the USA probably has never even heard of the terms Basa, swai, tra, or Ponga. This is largely due to the fact that distributors buy this product from other distributors and importers, then turn around and sell it to their end users (restaurants, markets) as Grouper or Catfish. It is definitely NOT Grouper! People (esp. in the southeast US) would be shocked as to how many fried grouper sandwiches they have consumed in the past year were actually one of these Pangasius species. Although it is taxomically a catfish, it is NOT the same species as domestic US Channel Catfish (Ictalurus Punctatus). They may be similar, but definitely not the same. The other issue that you run into is fwith foreign countries processing these "other" fish with certain chemicals, and antibiotics that are not allowed for use in the USA per the Food and Drug Administration. A recent example of this has occured in Louisiana, Alabama, and Mississippi. There have been Chinese Catfish imports that are being seized for containing flouroquinolones (antibiotics) and Crystal Violet (a coloring agent) {{unsigned|66.203.86.226}}
This fish is also marketed under the names tra & swai (Pangasius Hypothalamous) The other "trade name" that has come to life recently is Ponga and that typically refers to (Pangasius Pangasius). The only "true" Basa fish is the species Pangasius Bocourti. The common consumer in the USA probably has never even heard of the terms Basa, swai, tra, or Ponga. This is largely due to the fact that distributors buy this product from other distributors and importers, then turn around and sell it to their end users (restaurants, markets) as Grouper or Catfish. It is definitely NOT Grouper! People (esp. in the southeast US) would be shocked as to how many fried grouper sandwiches they have consumed in the past year were actually one of these Pangasius species. Although it is taxomically a catfish, it is NOT the same species as domestic US Channel Catfish (Ictalurus Punctatus). They may be similar, but definitely not the same. The other issue that you run into is fwith foreign countries processing these "other" fish with certain chemicals, and antibiotics that are not allowed for use in the USA per the Food and Drug Administration. A recent example of this has occured in Louisiana, Alabama, and Mississippi. There have been Chinese Catfish imports that are being seized for containing flouroquinolones (antibiotics) and Crystal Violet (a coloring agent) {{unsigned|66.203.86.226}}


Per http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101020225-203513,00.html
"...ichthyologists have found that U.S. catfish and Vietnamese basa are virtually indistinguishable genetically."
[[User:Ewlyahoocom|Ewlyahoocom]] ([[User talk:Ewlyahoocom|talk]]) 04:33, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

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Catfish

If further research agrees, this may need to be re-catagorized out of Catfishes. According to the externally linked article, the fish looks, cooks, and tastes differently from any catfish. It does not have the typical wide flat mouth, nor does it have "whiskers". It's scientific classification does not identify it as a catfish.

--TecBrat 13:42, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's in the family Pangasiidae (unless where I found that was wrong), which is one of the Catfish families (see the article). It is different from the normal kind of "catfish" we find at the grocery store here, though. Scott Ritchie 08:13, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You are correct. This "basa fish" is a catfish species of the shark catfish family. No matter what people think, it is a catfish taxonomically speaking. --Melanochromis 23:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

More fradulent bias found in Wilipedia. The fact is that in side by side blind taste tests the Vietnamese Basa tastes almost identical and actually better than american channel catfish. Simple fact.

Quoted from http://www.nola.com/newsflash/louisiana/index.ssf?/base/news-17/112344461913630.xml&storylist=louisiana "He said the free catfish attracted 102 people Saturday. On Sunday 200 people had taken the taste-test by 5 p.m. Of those, 49.5 percent chose the Vietnamese fish, 46 percent chose the U.S. catfish and 4 percent saw no difference.

Sample said 52 percent of the female liked the Vietnamese basa and 47 percent of the males preferred it."

So you can see this free Wikipedia Encyclopedia has been misused again and further effort needs to be taken here to prevent misguided political and racist bias from getting in here. Thank You!

When bringing the term "racist" into this fishy debate, are we talking about "fish racism" here? Does one type of catfish have disdain for other types of catfish? Hoserjoe

This fish is also marketed under the names tra & swai (Pangasius Hypothalamous) The other "trade name" that has come to life recently is Ponga and that typically refers to (Pangasius Pangasius). The only "true" Basa fish is the species Pangasius Bocourti. The common consumer in the USA probably has never even heard of the terms Basa, swai, tra, or Ponga. This is largely due to the fact that distributors buy this product from other distributors and importers, then turn around and sell it to their end users (restaurants, markets) as Grouper or Catfish. It is definitely NOT Grouper! People (esp. in the southeast US) would be shocked as to how many fried grouper sandwiches they have consumed in the past year were actually one of these Pangasius species. Although it is taxomically a catfish, it is NOT the same species as domestic US Channel Catfish (Ictalurus Punctatus). They may be similar, but definitely not the same. The other issue that you run into is fwith foreign countries processing these "other" fish with certain chemicals, and antibiotics that are not allowed for use in the USA per the Food and Drug Administration. A recent example of this has occured in Louisiana, Alabama, and Mississippi. There have been Chinese Catfish imports that are being seized for containing flouroquinolones (antibiotics) and Crystal Violet (a coloring agent) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.203.86.226 (talk • contribs)


Per http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101020225-203513,00.html 

"...ichthyologists have found that U.S. catfish and Vietnamese basa are virtually indistinguishable genetically."

Ewlyahoocom (talk) 04:33, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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