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::[[WP:GAN/I#Fail]] i mean [[User:48JCL|<b style="color: #004d5c; text-shadow: 2px 2px 4px;font-family:Trebuchet MS">48</b>]][[User talk:48JCL|<b style="color: #007d96; text-shadow: 2px 2px 4px; font-family:Trebuchet MS">JCL</b>]] 13:59, 5 July 2024 (UTC) |
::[[WP:GAN/I#Fail]] i mean [[User:48JCL|<b style="color: #004d5c; text-shadow: 2px 2px 4px;font-family:Trebuchet MS">48</b>]][[User talk:48JCL|<b style="color: #007d96; text-shadow: 2px 2px 4px; font-family:Trebuchet MS">JCL</b>]] 13:59, 5 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:::@[[User:48JCL|48JCL]], normally yes, but as part of the July Backlog drive, I’m letting a more experienced reviewer concur with my evaluation first before I close it. [[User:Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d|Dr. Swag Lord]] ([[User talk:Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d|talk]]) 20:50, 6 July 2024 (UTC) |
:::@[[User:48JCL|48JCL]], normally yes, but as part of the July Backlog drive, I’m letting a more experienced reviewer concur with my evaluation first before I close it. [[User:Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d|Dr. Swag Lord]] ([[User talk:Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d|talk]]) 20:50, 6 July 2024 (UTC) |
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::::I went and looked at the article before checking this review and had the same first bad taste in my mouth at "internationally recognized". '''This is a quickfail''', and it's not even close. |
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::::This is nominator {{u|Gumballhead1of2}}'s first visit to GAN, so I'd like to further dissect some of the issues that leave this page very far from meeting multiple Good Article criteria: |
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::::* '''The sourcing is overwhelmingly primary.''' There is an ''image'' cited as a source for some reason, alongside multiple links to IMDb. There are some secondary sources that look promising, including a 1997 feature in the ''Los Angeles Times'', a 2010 book review in ''The Independent'', and coverage of her exhibitions in different cities. I encourage the nominator to trade up to reliable sources in news media, books, and scholarly literature (which I suspect might exist). While they do not have 10+ edits in the last month, if they were to do so, they would qualify for [[WP:TWL|Wikipedia Library]] access, which would help in procuring the needed higher-quality sourcing. |
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::::* '''The impact of promotional editing is still reflected in the prose.''' It's puffier than a puff pastry, and much of its language is not encyclopedic. If you've come from a PR background, as I suspect, this is going to be an adjustment for you. Trading up in sourcing will also help you avoid the copyvio issue. |
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::::* '''Image licensing.''' A [[WP:VRT|VRT ticket]], like the one Gluckstein provided for her image, needs to be supplied for the book cover. I do not know if Gluckstein, and not her publisher, would have authority to create that ticket. |
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::::Pinging [[User:Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d|Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d]] to have this nomination closed. [[User:Sammi Brie|<span style="color:#ba4168">Sammi Brie</span>]] (she/her • [[User talk:Sammi Brie|t]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sammi Brie|c]]) 10:58, 7 July 2024 (UTC) |
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Dr. Swag Lord: Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d (talk · contribs) Hello, I intend to review this article later. 09:34, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Image copyright: File:DIGNITY In Honor of the Rights of Indigenous Peoples Book cover.png needs VRT permission as it is a book cover not in the PD or under a suitable CC.
- Neutrality: Looking at the history, the article has suffered from lots of WP:PROMOTIONAL content. While the nominator has tried to clean up such issues, I still see lots of non-neutral wording to the point where this article reads like a CV. Examples include:
- “internationally recognized portrait photographer” (common Puff wording)
- “Human rights activist” (that’s not a vio of NPOV issue in itself, but it’s not verified from the cited sources)
- “photographed award-winning annual reports”
- “used her international public platform”
- “Following this milestone”
- “raise awareness about these issues and to urge people to get involved through direct action” (we are not the subject’s PR manager)
- long list of the subject’s exhibitions
- Sources: Wayyyy too many primary sources. This amount of primary sources contributes to the above NPOV issues.
- Plagiarism/copyright: Earwig is picking up a 50% match from the subject’s book publisher (non-quoted material). And over a 30% match from ref 1. That’s not acceptable. This alone is grounds for a quick fail.
Unfortunately I will need to quick fail this article per WP:QF criteria 1 and 2. Good luck on improving the article in the future! Dr. Swag Lord (talk) 22:02, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Dr.Swag Lord, if you plan on QF this, then please read WP:GANI/F. 48JCL 13:59, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- WP:GAN/I#Fail i mean 48JCL 13:59, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- @48JCL, normally yes, but as part of the July Backlog drive, I’m letting a more experienced reviewer concur with my evaluation first before I close it. Dr. Swag Lord (talk) 20:50, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- I went and looked at the article before checking this review and had the same first bad taste in my mouth at "internationally recognized". This is a quickfail, and it's not even close.
- This is nominator Gumballhead1of2's first visit to GAN, so I'd like to further dissect some of the issues that leave this page very far from meeting multiple Good Article criteria:
- The sourcing is overwhelmingly primary. There is an image cited as a source for some reason, alongside multiple links to IMDb. There are some secondary sources that look promising, including a 1997 feature in the Los Angeles Times, a 2010 book review in The Independent, and coverage of her exhibitions in different cities. I encourage the nominator to trade up to reliable sources in news media, books, and scholarly literature (which I suspect might exist). While they do not have 10+ edits in the last month, if they were to do so, they would qualify for Wikipedia Library access, which would help in procuring the needed higher-quality sourcing.
- The impact of promotional editing is still reflected in the prose. It's puffier than a puff pastry, and much of its language is not encyclopedic. If you've come from a PR background, as I suspect, this is going to be an adjustment for you. Trading up in sourcing will also help you avoid the copyvio issue.
- Image licensing. A VRT ticket, like the one Gluckstein provided for her image, needs to be supplied for the book cover. I do not know if Gluckstein, and not her publisher, would have authority to create that ticket.
- Pinging Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d to have this nomination closed. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 10:58, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- @48JCL, normally yes, but as part of the July Backlog drive, I’m letting a more experienced reviewer concur with my evaluation first before I close it. Dr. Swag Lord (talk) 20:50, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- WP:GAN/I#Fail i mean 48JCL 13:59, 5 July 2024 (UTC)