Talk:Greece

Macedonia request for comment

The Centralized discussion set up to decide on a comprehensive naming convention about Macedonia-related naming practices is now inviting comments on a number of competing proposals from the community. Please register your opinions on the RfC subpages 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. (Page 5 deals with the conventions most directly affecting this article.)

Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:18, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Just a note about the language "Macedonian" which by some linguists is identified as a dialect of Bulgarian (a Slavic language) some linguists identify it as Serbo-Croatian ( also a Slavic language) therefore is extremely confusing and does not comply with history as we know it. Since the Slavic people did not come to occupy the Balkan penninsula until a thousand years after the death of Alexander the Great of Macedon how can a Slavic language be termed "Macedonian?" It's like Papua New Guinea claiming they have changed their ethnicity to Queenslanders and changing their country's name to Queensland and naming their language as Queenslandish! I find this an usurpation and falsification of Greek history and territory and a gross miscarriage of truth and justice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.131.9.241 (talk) 11:17, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Greece, the land of light

There is a missing section explaining that Hellas means THE LAND OF LIGHT and implies that the rest of territories were submerged into intellectual darkness/barbarism. 87.219.85.254 (talk) 00:12, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Lead

We've missed out the fact that Ancient Greece (?) invented fire, light, oxygen and everything else.

On a more serious note, the lead reads like an advertisement for visiting Greece.

Firstly, Western drama was made famous by Shakespeare more so than by Ancient Greece.

Mathematical principles where articulated in the East as were major scientific discoveries which facilitated later Western advancements. The claim to being the birthplace for political science is equally disputable. This needs to be fixed, methinks, Interestedinfairness (talk) 20:40, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Can you put references where your mouth and original research are? man with one red shoe 20:41, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Sports / Soccer team

Since the article is protected, I make a comment here. In the sports section, it is stated that the national soccer team is currently ranked 20th, which is not valid (it was true sometime in 2007, when this was posted) - current rank is 11th. Since FIFA ranking changes continuously, either somebody should regularly update this paragraph, or - perhaps better - takes off entirely the ranking info and simply provides link to the FIFA ranking site. Skartsis (talk) 07:24, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

The article is currently only semi-protected, so you ought to be able to edit it. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:31, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

OK, thanks! Skartsis (talk) 07:34, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Ancient philosophy

The segment on ancient Greek philosophy is somewhat limited, esp. the section dealing with the Presocratics. A more apt name(though 'Presocratics' is a name still being used), would be the Materialist Philosophers of Ionia, the region now known as the southwestern coast of Turkey, (the part of Turkey facing Greece, right across from the island of Rhodes). The term "materialist" is a philosophical term referring to a branch of philosophy advocating that matter precedes spirit. Most notable philosophers of Ioania were three, namely: Thales, Anaximandros, (or Anaximander), and Anaximenis. All three believed that life originated from either, water, air, soil, fire, or from all four substances taken together. They all came from the then known Ionian city states of Miletus, and Alikarnassus (modern day Turkish town of Bodrum). Their ideas were kept alive by such other later day philosophers as Heraclitus (all is in a state of flow - ΤΑ ΠΑΝΤΑ ΡΕΙ), Epicurus, and Democritus, the father of the atomic theory. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.132.118.239 (talk) 18:53, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Hello, welcome and thanks for your suggestions. Please feel free to propose some text to be added or reworded in the article. Unfortunately the article is currently semi-protected, so you will not be able to edit it directly, but if you place some proposed text here, somebody else will add it for you. Just keep in mind it's only supposed to be a summary article and the amount of coverage needs to remain balanced with all the other topics without making the total article too large. The main Ancient Greek philosophy article is of course much more detailed. Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:15, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

The map

The map that you have in this article indicates the FYROM as republic of "macedonia" Since Greece has not accepted this name for FYROM it is not right to have this map here. Please change or remove it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.107.205.213 (talk) 13:26, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Not sure we ought to individualize for Greece (or any other country), even if this is the Greece article; that's just not how we do naming conventions here. For the last couple of years we've been using Republic of Macedonia — all other uses elsewhere follow from what this main article is called. El_C 13:34, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey, El C, nice to see you back! It seems you missed a bit of fun, though :-) -- Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:41, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

"Previously on Wikipedia ethnic battles..." :-) J.delanoy^gabs_adds 13:48, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Ah, the fun you miss when you're away for a year... El_C 14:36, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

For those who missed it, the matter of Macedonia's name has been decided for Wikipedia purposes at WP:MOSMAC2. No more "FYROM" in Wikipedia. (Taivo (talk) 17:29, 3 August 2009 (UTC))

famous persons

i think is good to put some photos of famous greeks ,such as theodorakis and callas in the field of music,.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greco22 (talk • contribs) 18:23, 5 August 2009 (UTC)