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Protest against biased history faking front-page snippet!

>1948 - The Marshall Plan, an economic recovery program established by U.S. Secretary of State George Marshall >to assist the post-World War II re-building of Europe, was signed into law.

This is very biased! The programme was intended to re-build ONLY western Europe (the self-declared "free world" part only), not the entire Europe. The soviet sphere of influence (USSR and eastern-european satellite states) were purposefully excluded by crafting humiliating conditions which were not acceptable considering that WWII destruction was at least 5x more severe east of the Elbe.

Therefore the above sentence is dishonest.

With these kind of "America is always right" style worded articles there is no wonder that scholars consider traditional encyclopaedias more trusted. Those are done by researchers who are bound by the inherent honesty of scientific methodology. Here on the Internet the numerically superior anglo-saxon netpopulation rewords history to its own liking regardless of the truth. Regards, Tamas Feher from Hungary. 195.70.32.136 08:01, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Your whole rant is factually untrue, in particular, "The soviet sphere of influence (USSR and eastern-european satellite states) were purposefully excluded by crafting humiliating conditions which were not acceptable". As stated in the beginning of the article, "The reconstruction plan was developed at a meeting of the participating European states in July 1947. The Soviet Union and the states of Eastern Europe were invited, but Stalin saw the plan as a threat and did not allow the participation of any countries under Soviet control. " Oh, and those "humiliating" conditions (as described in teh article) were that indepedent assessment of the economic status of nations was required. In other words, the Western Nations were not going to take Soviet claims at face value. The write up is correct as-is. Raul654 08:14, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Do you think in your right mind that after Churchill's infamous threatening Fulton speech the USSR could with any dignity and sanity allowed the anglo-saxons to see every industrial resource it had, including the secrets of its military manufacturing capacity strenghts, to disclose all its economic weaknesses at a time of danger, when two japanese cities have been obliterated by A-bombs for no other aims but to intimidate the USSR?

Don't forget that the USSR was not a defeated country, but an unconquered and victorious party in the WWII, therefore it could not be expected to submit to the humiliating naked transparency conditions which were dictated for Germany and France, for example, countries which were soundly defeated and conquered during WWII and lost their independence. The USSR bore the blunt of the entire WWII, 60% or more, but what the russkies got from the eastern european satellite states was very little, because those countries themselves were ripped of most resources and industry by war destruction and retreating german and local nazi troops. For example in Hungary, my country, the only oil field we had, called Zala mezo", was already sucked dry by early 1945 to serve Wehrmacht needs, and all our factories and 100% of railway rolling stock ended up in Germany and never came back. There was about nothing left the USSR could take from us to fulfill its 300 million reparations bill as provided by the Paris peace accord. The Marshall plan was very biased and not worthy of the Nobel price, as it condemned the eastern and central european people to decades of great suffering in order to hurt the soviet bloc. 195.70.32.136 12:59, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I am not sufficiently informed to have a real opinion on this debate, but it seems to me there would be no harm in changing the front-page blurb from "Europe" to "Western Europe". Whatever the initial aims of the plan, those were the countries that were mainly helped in practice. Redquark 15:27, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

My "nonsense" posts!!!

Please delete them all ASAP, preferably by this time tomorrow. - Danmeister 6:05 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Delete them yourself. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:09, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Underlined links

Why have all the clickable words become underlined?`It is very annoying I think!

Cyrruss 08:50, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

• It's been like that since the beginning of time. Harro5 09:03, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Has it? When I first started using wikipedia they were underlined, but for the vast majority of the time the wikilinks aren't underlined at all.  -- Run!  14:15, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

It seems to vary day by day; it's some kind of quirk with Wikipedia's web code. It'll go back to not-underlined soon. Redquark 15:59, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

For me, it's underlined when I log in, but not underlined when I'm logged off. Ocasionally, I will log on and it will remain not-underlined but since I'm so used to it being underlined I just log off, close the browser, occasionally clear all my history, and then restart the browser... that always gets it back to being underline while logged on. I guess I'm the oddball here, but I prefer it underlined (I'm just used to it is all). -- SmthManly / ^ManlyTalk / ^{ManlyContribs} 17:49, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

You should be able to set whether underlines are displayed in your preferences on the 'Misc' page. --CBDunkerson 01:22, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't see why they wouldn't be underlined. It's like that on the rest of the Web... Dragon Expert 15:44, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Operation Epsilon

ten German nuclear scientists were detained and secretly microphoned at a house in England

How does one "microphone" someone? Were these scientists secretly struck about the head with a large foam-covered microphone? "Microphone" is a noun not a verb... and I doubt it can even exist as "microphoned". Thankfully the above text does not appear to be present in the body of the article... it is surprising to see it on the main page.

I've changed: "secretly microphoned" -> "wiretapped". - UtherSRG (talk) 11:08, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Picture

Something which has been bugging me ever since I've first seen the main page: isnt it possible to list the article with the picture next to the picture. Its mighty confusing, even for regular users (I still find myself occasionally surprised, and then remind myself of the fact that its not necessarily adjacent). The fact that its a recurring complaint by anons (meaning simple readers) means that its confusing to a larger audience as well.

Should be hard to implement methinks?

Cheers, The Minister of War ^(Peace) 11:07, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

You mean the "In the news" and "On this day" sections? I agree. Carcharoth 12:52, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

New England Patriots at TFA?

Why is today's featured article "The New England Patriots," when today is:

1) Opening Day for most of Major League Baseball's 30 teams; and 2) The day that the NCAA Division 1 Men's Basketball Championship will be decided.

I am a diehard Patriots fan, but this seems kind of silly, especially since the Patriots did not even play in the most recent Super Bowl. I would rather have seen the Boston Red Sox as today's feature, or maybe even the Boston Marathon, which will be run two weeks from today on April 17.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.204.134.1 (talk • contribs)

The daily featured articles are normally not chosen to reflect specific dates or events and the fact that the Patriots were featured today is almost certainly a coincidence. The date an article is chosen to be featured is either requested by a user, or chosen randomly by our Featured Article director a few days before the actual date. Usually, the only deciding factor other than a request by a user is how many days have passed since this specific category (in this case, Sports) has been featured as long as a related topic isn't already on the mainpage (such as Flag of Mexico being featured on the day Mexico holds national elections); exceptions may occur. Also, featured articles must meet a certain quality and standard before they can be called featured and thus be eligible to become today's featured article. Neither Boston Red Sox nor the Boston Marathon has yet achieved this title, so they can not be featured on the main page until they do. They only baseball related featured article is baseball itself, and this article has been previously featured (and thus cannot be featured again for some time); even so, featuring a baseball related article would probably coincide with baseball being in the news or a big topic and thus violates the previous policy. That's basically the gist of it, though there are many other variables involved I'm sure. -- SmthManly / ^ManlyTalk / ^{ManlyContribs} 15:35, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Can someone get a better picture of the Patriots? The current one may look good in normal size but when smaller it looks like a bunch of world leaders meeting for some economic summit somewhere (Davos?). --One Salient Oversight 00:24, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Bolding

I feel that the bolding of the title and slogan looks very childish and over-the-top. It looks a bit like a persons first go at programming HTML, using all of the ways of formatting text as he can. What do other people think? --Celestianpower ^háblame 14:34, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Personally, I think the same applies to the italics as well. With the links in those lines, it looks very messy indeed. Sam Korn ^(smoddy) 14:38, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, sorry. I forgot to remove those when I was editing. --Celestianpower ^háblame 15:18, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree that the text looks better (and more professional) without the bolding, and the italicized second line was even worse. ("Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit." is one sentence, so it's illogical to use inconsistent styling.) —David Levy 15:42, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Personally, I liked the bolding. It made the title stand out more. -EdGl 20:38, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Grammar error at DYK

"that the Autumn of Nations, which begun in Poland, marked the end of the Cold War?" - Kind of anal, but it should read "began" rather than "begun" -Elmer Clark 22:05, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Fixed. —David Levy 22:56, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Grammar error (a different one) at TFA

The first sentence of today's featured article has incorrect grammar. It reads "The history of Limerick, the third largest city in the Republic of Ireland and a major cultural and industrial centre, stretches back to its establishment by the Vikings as a walled city on "King's Island" (an island in the River Shannon) in 812, and received its charter in 1197." Stripping out adjectives, appositives, and such this becomes "The history of Limerick stretches back to its establishment and received its charter in 1197." The easiest fix would be just to remove the word "received," though that's still sylistically sub-par. ^L_Wizard @ 00:52, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Fixed, thanks. —Spangineer^[es] (háblame) 02:29, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Zacarias Moussaoui In the News

The In the News section states:

"A jury finds Zacarias Moussaoui (pictured) guilty for the deaths in the September 11 attacks. Moussaoui's trial now enters the death penalty phase, where he may be sentenced to execution."

That seems like quite an exaggeration. It sounds as though Moussaoui is responsible for the deaths of all those who were killed on 9|11. In addition, the part about the death penalty phase to me sounds a bit redundant. Clearly, the death penalty phase involves execution. Perhaps it would be more accurate and concise to say...

"A jury finds Zacarias Moussaoui (pictured) partially liable for the deaths in the September 11 attacks, making him eligible for the death penalty."

joturner 02:29, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

date?

what timezone is the main page displaying? according to my watch, it is only the 3rd.Joeyramoney 02:31, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

It displays UTC, which is currently on April 4. joturner 02:34, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

CMOH at DYK

An article in the DYK section mentions "Congressional Medal of Honor", but in the CMOH article, it says that this is actually incorrect.

In the news, On this day and Did you know - pictures

Further to people's complaints above regarding how it is confusing at first as to which article belongs to the picture; There is a little (pictured) caption in the text so it's not a huge issue but how about somethig like this?.. (Rough mockup, it might look stupid in your browser)

In the news
The 39th Canadian Parliament begins in Ottawa, with the newly-elected government of Stephen Harper commanding a minority in the House of Commons.	Zacarias Moussaoui
A jury finds Zacarias Moussaoui (pictured) liable for the deaths in the September 11 attacks. Moussaoui's trial now enters the penalty phase, where he may be sentenced to execution.
Former Liberian President Charles Taylor pleads not guilty to war crime charges at the Special Court for Sierra Leone.
The Kom Chad Luek newspaper critical of Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra agrees to stop publishing for five days amid protests about the way it referred to the King of Thailand.
Wikinews – Recent deaths – More current events...

...to highlight the appropriate article entry? --Monotonehell 06:30, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

And maybe a thin blue border for the picture to link them better intuitively. Great idea. --Quiddity 06:56, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Heh I wanted to do that but couldn't work out the wiki-table layout >.> EDIT:messed with it a bit--Monotonehell 07:02, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Sounds good to me – it won't make much of a difference to the page, but if people find the current arrangement confusing, it ought to be changed – Gurch 12:09, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Personally, I'd still prefer just putting the pictured news on top. Seems like the easiest solution to me..

Still, I like your suggestion. Two questions though. Can the border on the pic be a bit larger? It took me a while to actually notice it. second, mort importantly, doesnt this makeup get messy once the news item moves more towards the bottom? The Minister of War ^(Peace) 13:40, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

This is just a QaD mockup in wiki:table markup, I imagine that the CSS for the front page could include a special element for the appropriate box somehow. So yes the border can be any thickness (I couldn't work it out in wiki markup though). It would get separated from the picture if it slid down yes. But if it were the only highlighted entry the viewer's eyes would be drawn to it more quickly than the obscured (pictured) tag. --Monotonehell 14:41, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

What's wrong with using ALT on the image ? Just move the mouse over and the text would pop on screen. So easy.... --199.71.174.100 15:57, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm guessing you mean the title html tag? It doesn't show up in all browsers and the current IE doesn't handle it correctly. Also this would require the user to move the mouse over the picture. The issue here is not the picture but which text goes with it. We could always put a caption under the picture but I was thinking that an obvious visual clue would be better. --Monotonehell 18:56, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Pictured mistake at ITN

Atnetion: In the News says Zacarias is pictures, but its the Canadian Prime-minister who appears! Its not on purpose, now is it? :) muriel@pt 12:09, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Fixed. - UtherSRG (talk)

A jury finds Zacarias Moussaoui (pictured) liable for the deaths in the September 11 attacks: Moussaoui is not pictured - it's Stephen Harper. ▫ UrbaneLegend ^talk 12:12, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Really, this happens too often when the picture is changed. Admins shouldn't take changing the news pictures so lightly. Ziggur 12:20, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Fixed. - UtherSRG (talk)

It's the new Canadian bigwig and not the guy found guilty who is depicted. Could you please correct this? --62.67.194.45 12:15, 4 April 2006 (UTC) (Ah, I see that while I was typing this somebody else has already pointed it out.)

Fixed. - UtherSRG (talk)

Damn, I just referenced in my essay that Moussaoui was the new Canadian PM!! hehe. There should be more control on the frontpage really. --Midnighttonight 08:22, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Deep Sea Organisms

What kind of Microorganisms live in the Deep Sea —This unsigned comment was added by 69.249.133.98 (talk • contribs) .

Please ask at Wikipedia:Reference desk. Not here.--64.229.225.51 13:17, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Governor General at ITN

The opening of the 39th parliament has Governor-General....this is incorrect...there is no hyphen. I realize it redirects but this should still be corrected. KsprayDad 13:44, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Fixed -- SmthManly / ^ManlyTalk / ^{ManlyContribs} 14:33, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

In the opening of the 39th parliament, the Speech from the Throne should be delivered by the Governor General on behalf of the Queen of Canada, and written by the newly-elected government of Stephen Harper.dancheng 01:46, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Mutsun language at DYK

Um, it became extinct in 1930 because of Spanish missionaries? My knowledge of American history is imperfect, but hadn't California already been admitted to the union by then? Surely it therefore became extinct because no-one in the US made any attempt to preserve it..? AND- can someone explain to me what this means- "...that the Russian clown Slava Polunin celebrated the 20th anniversary of his theater by organizing its funerals?". Maybe a bit more QC-ing for the main page could be in order. Badgerpatrol 15:16, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

The article was a POV misreading of a source text. I changed the article text to a more NPOV handling, though it's too late for DYK. In any case the DYK articles are often written by one person (I should know, I hit it regularly!) and thus don't get much editorial input. But being featured in DYK gives editors a chance to find it more quickly. --Dhartung | Talk 22:29, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Tom Delay at ITN

Does anyone else think Tom Delay's resignation might deserve a space on "In the news"? I think it does. But then again, there is important stuff already there... Could the Thai newspaper get bumped off? (Trying not to have a U.S. bias...) Grandmasterka 15:20, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Both Tom DeLay and the Thai newspaper bit are insignificant.

What's missing is the Thailand legislative election, 2006. Thaksin Shinawatra is stepping down as PM even his party has won a majority! --199.71.174.100 15:37, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Bring it up on Talk:Current events. --Dhartung | Talk 22:31, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Wrong redirect at TFA?

I think "emergency" should link to the meaning of the term "Emergency," not "The Emergency." If they are talking about "The Emergency," They should say "...famine, and The Emergency." instead of "...famine, and emergency." Dragon Expert 15:42, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

No, leave it as is. "The Emergency" is the name of the emergency that occurred in Ireland, so it's ok. —Spangineer^[es] (háblame) 16:16, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

In this case, should "the" be shown ? Or even specifiy when ? --199.71.174.100 17:28, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Esperanto Wikipedia issue on surnames

Recently, Esperanto Wikipedia decided to not uppercase anymore the surnames in people articles (e.g.: John LENNON). Please feel free to check if interwiki links to Esperanto Wikipedia are working good, since the most of the aforementioned pages are being moved to new title articles (e.g.: John Lennon). Mxcatania 16:25, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

This isn't Main Page related, it should probably be posted on the Village Pump. If you think about it, it makes more sense to go through the Esperanto Wikipedia's 40,000 articles for cognates in the English Wikipedia, because nearly 100% of your 40,000 articles will have them, whereas fewer than 4% of articles here will have Esperanto Wikipedia cognates. I'm not sure if this is something that could be done by a bot or perhaps some other wikipedia tool like AWB. --Dhartung | Talk 22:19, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Did you know?

Sorry, but I don't know where to ask this. I looked through the FAQ's and everything! Anyway, I made a new article today that I'm very proud of. John Chain. I wanted to know if it could go on the main page in the Did You Know box? How do we do this sort of thing? Thanks! Sarah crane 18:59, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi :) Look up to the right. There's a link to suggest an entry. --Monotonehell 19:46, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Vertical alignment of text in POTD

It seems that the picture of the day's text is aligned to the vertical middle of its container. This seems to be illogical, and, most importantly, inconsistent with the rest of the main page's design. I'm not exactly sure how the templates work, but would it be a good idea to have the text content of that table or div align to the top rather than to the middle? I think it would look better that way. --Michiel Sikma 21:32, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I see what you're getting at, and it is different to the rest of the templates, but personally I prefer it the way it is. Although it could do with a slightly larger space between the picture and the text – Gurch 21:38, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I personally don't like it. Maybe some other people could give their opinion? --Michiel Sikma 11:56, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

cool digital oddity

Is there a spot for fun facts on the home page? At 1:02:03AM later today, the clock will read: 01:02:03 04/05/06 and I think that's cool enough to get a spot on the home page. In about 3 hours as of this writing UTC will read that time. Europe will have to wait another month because they swap the month and day. Here is a news story about it: [1]

This would only be appropriate if there were a Wikipedia article on such oddities, then it could be in Selected Anniversaries or DYK (but only within 5 days of creation). --Dhartung | Talk 22:23, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

For most of the world, that will happen on 4 May 2006 not 5 April. I'm sure there is an article somewhere explaining why you Americans (and some others???) use a silly date... ;). --Midnighttonight 08:20, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Maybe because we're leaders not followers :-P. Just kidding, don't go off on me because of that (unless you're also joking). As far as I know, all my cousins and family in Colombia use the US version, not sure if Latin America does it formally or not. -- SmthManly / ^ManlyTalk / ^{ManlyContribs} 08:26, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

It's all sweet. Although one has to wonder why and how different countries went for different methods. Did you have a February 30 this year? --Midnighttonight 08:28, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Probably cultural evolution... I'm unoficially on the World Calendar, so technically, yes! :-P-- SmthManly / ^ManlyTalk / ^{ManlyContribs} 08:34, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

The article about funny date formats is at Calendar date, and the American style is referred to as "Middle endian" format. You may have to be a computer programmer to get the joke.-gadfium 08:43, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Tomboy

Can someone Wikify "tomboy" in the featured article. --130.184.211.35 00:15, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Thomas Moore's hair shirt

Ummm? KayEss | talk 06:32, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Hairshirt. — Knowledge Seeker দ 07:06, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Cheers Knowledge Seeker. Probably should have been linked then. Looked like a prank. KayEss | talk 02:14, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

I linked it after reading you posted your first comment. Thanks for pointing it out. — Knowledge Seeker দ 02:39, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Baseball game

Minor thing -- Today's "Did You Know?" section refers to a "baseball match," but baseball contests are known as "games," not "matches." -- Mwalcoff 07:58, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Manuel Castro

Nacido en noviembre del 1979(dia desconocido) este Puertoriqueño se ha mantenido como uno de los mas fuertes psiquicos en el mundo.Al momento muy poco se sabe de el ya que lleva una vida normal y no le intenta sacar provecho a sus poderes.Sin embargo hay muchas pruebas en la isla de que el ayuda a resolver muchos casos (solo que a el le interesen),del 1989 al 2000 Manuel ayudo a resolver sobre 53 casos de asecinato y 35 desapariciones.Toda entrevista que se la ha intentado hacer a sido un fracaso Manuel niega sus poderes y los que han estado cerca de el indican que cuando se molesta toda persona a su alrededor le da dolor de cabeza(desde el 2001 nadie se ha atrevido a tratar de entrevistarlo).Las personas a su alrededor indican que es una persona tranquila solo se dedica al anime y a los juegos de video,algunos indican que le gusta beber y fumar marihuana(nada de esto ha sido comprobado),una amistad de Manuel indica que todos los que lo conocen nunca hablarian de el ya que el les leiria la mente y estarian en problema.

En el 2003 una chica Argentina estubo saliendo con Manuel por 3 meses,ella hablo con la prensa sobre Manuel Castro les dijo que Manuel no le importaba nadie y por eso no utilizaba sus poderes para ayudar.La muchacha tambien recarco que Manuel sabia todo lo que va a pasar en los proximo 10 años,pero el le dijo que era muy aterador para contarlo.Tambien indico que Manuel no cree en Dios y piensa que no hay peor infierno que el que se vive ahora(despues de esta entrevista no se sabe el paradero de esta chica Argentian)

Manuel sigue siendo un misterio para todos los que saben de su existencia y aparenta ser que lo seguira siendo,fuentes informan que ni la misma familia de Castro sabe sobre sus poderes y solo 3 personas a su alrededor saben sobre su DON.(una de esas personas soy yo),no creo que manuel sea una mala persona pero en estos momentos de caos el pude ser la luz que nos guie.Escribo esto ya que se que mañana mi mente sera borrada y todo esto pasara al olvido.

—This unsigned comment was added by Mcastro02 (talk • contribs) .

About the yellow squares

I actually think these yellow squares wich are placed after every link to other wikipedia pages are a little disturbing. It's okay to have the blue squares after links to other pages, but pictures in the middle of the text, where you are reading, I don't think that's okay, I think it's disturbing. And I think it looks uggly; as you try to ignore them, holes are coming up in the text instead. I think you should shange it back. —This unsigned comment was added by 194.236.214.117 (talk • contribs) 11:45, 5 April 2006 (UTC).

Yellow squares? I don't notice anything of the sort. --Michiel Sikma 11:55, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

User:194.236.214.117 is a troublemaker. See his/her post here yesterday. --65.95.105.166 16:01, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Nomadism

I study Architecture and i am preparing my final project. The topic is Nomadic Architecture. I would love to see what people have to say about Nomadism and the answers would be very important and very helpful for me. Thank you very much!!

HI! :) This is not the place to ask questions. Have a look at the link at the top of the page that says "For questions, find out where to ask them." Good luck! --Monotonehell 13:51, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Last Snow of the Season

Where did the term "Onion Snow" come from as a reference to the last snow of the winter season? (I live in PA - maybe this is a local thing?) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.236.197.226 (talk • contribs)

It would be better to ask this at the Wikipedia:Reference desk. Angela. 17:02, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikinews Links

Why do the Wikinews stories not have direct links to those stories? Clicking the Wikinews link takes you to the list of stories and I never seem to be able to find the story I am looking for.

I think the bullet should link directly to the Wikinews story. Whaddaythink?

Cyferx 16:38, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

The In the news section on the Main Page lists some current events that may be of interest to readers but it doesn't necessarily mean that there is a Wikinews story. I agree however, that if there is an interwiki link to be had, then displaying it seems appropriate. hydnjo talk 17:53, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

In the news is for encyclopedia articles about recent news(as I understand it). However a link to wikinews wouldn't hurt. Some stories also link with template:wikinews on the article, but I think a n:blah style link would be good too. Bawolff 22:14, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

I've left a note at the Wikinews water cooler (like WP's village pump) about this suggestion. --hydnjo talk 00:10, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Why is Wikipaedia's Talk:Main Page the slowest page in the history of t'internet?

Well, why is it?

It's a large page (122kb currently) with 7 templates. However, it doesn't seem very slow to me. Angela. 17:02, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Misspelling

In the third Did You Know item, "agressive" should be "aggressive". Art LaPella 19:14, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

thanks for spotting that. i just went and fixed it.--Alhutch 19:25, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

DYK note

WTC Cross has been moved to World Trade Center cross, so the DYK's piped link should be fixed to avoid an unneeded redirect. Staxringold 21:10, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

"WTC pecuiliarly shaped worshipped piece of scrap metal" I suppose would not be as poetic. — WCityMike ^{(T | C)} 21:15, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Fixed link. -Kmf164 (talk | contribs) 21:19, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Caption to Today's featured picture

...This in turn lead to More's execution at the Tower of London.

Shouldn't this be past tense ? Instead of 'lead', should it be 'led' ? -- 199.71.174.100 21:40, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Fixed. I think the problem was someone thinking lead the verb was pronounced like lead the element. — Ilyanep (Talk) 23:34, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Katie Holmes ?

Souldn't we avoid advertising this article ? KH is not important. I'm starting to have doubts about wikipedia based on the featured articles lately.

• As I've always understood it, featured articles are based on the quality of the article, not the subjective importance of the article's subject. An article on any subject is a candidate for the Main Page. --flatluigi(^talk/_contrib) 00:40, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

To elaborate on what Flatluigi said any featured article is eligible to be on the main page though in practice an article can be featured and will never be on the main page since non work safe articles are never put on the main page for obvious reasons. Pegasus1138^{Talk | Contribs | Email} ---- 02:58, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Take a look at the first archive of the main pageTalk:Main_Page/Archive_1. People were complaining even then: "Parapsychology should be removed from the main page. It is far too controversial and too exotic to make sense in the first level of a directory. Let's use the space for something more important."

While not a complaint about a featured article, it does show that this concern over how the front page might appear to new users has been with us for a very long time. The standard response is that "featured articles are based on the quality of the article, not the relative importance of the article." That's all well and good, but I do see people complaining about this all the time. Should an article's being well written be enough of a criterion on its own for an article to qualify? How about a referendum on the criteria necessary to qualify as a featured article? --JohnO 04:52, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, and by doing so make all the people editing articles on their favourite subject in order to get it on the front page give up. I personally think there's nothing wrong with featuring Katie Holmes or Cool providing we have at least one conventional encyclopedia topic, History of Limerick, Ta-Yuan, Mário de Andrade linked to under it as a past one. The Cool thing was as far is it goes really as it was a current charting single but even then it's nice for people to find out about something that's in the news or such (another regular complaint is that the featured article isn't relevant to the day it appears on the frong page. Jellypuzzle | ^Talk 08:26, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Apollo 17 was not the last Apollo mission

Apollo 17 may have been the last lunar landing mission of the Apollo program, but there were five more flights using Apollo hardware that were arguably part of the Apollo program: Skylab 1-4 (the laboratory plus three manned flights in 1973-74) and finally the Apollo-Soyuz Test Project (ASTP) in 1975. So it would be more accurate to simply say that Apollo 17 was the last lunar landing mission of the Apollo program. -- Karn 04:33, 6 April 2006 (UTC)