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:The current wording seems very exaggerated and tends to ridicule, or at least unprofessionalize, Wikipedia's description of NYC as an influential world city by engaging in nonsensical neologism.-- [[User:Maxeto0910|Maxeto0910]] ([[User talk:Maxeto0910|talk]]) 10:21, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
== Is [[Newark Airport]] in NYC? ==
Seems weird to have it there in the infobox in equal footing with JFK and LaGuardia, which both sit clearly in Queens. If we’re being literal in the infobox, then Newark Airport shouldn’t be there. If we’re representing the broader area or concept of NYC in the infobox, there should at least be an explanatory footnote. Thoughts? [[User:Mrbeastmodeallday|Mrbeastmodeallday]] ([[User talk:Mrbeastmodeallday|talk]]) 13:25, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
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1. Was Manhattan Island really bought for a very small amount of currency (be it $24, one string of wampum, etc.)?
No. Charles Gehring, Director of the New Netherland Project, explains this myth in a video (skip ahead to 3:03) by the New York State Museum. In it, he says, "This is one of the biggest myths...pure fabrication. It says in the records that it was 60 guilders worth of goods. 60 guilders worth of goods would have been a lot of hard goods that the Indians couldn't produce themselves. You couldn't place a price on the...things that they were unable to make, the things they didn't have the technology for. The $24 figure was attached to the document when it was translated in the 1880s. The translators looked up the rate of exchange at the time and 60 guilders was $24. Nobody has ever even adjusted that for inflation over the years, so you not only have an incorrect rate of exchange, but the whole idea of what 60 guilders would have been worth to the Indians at the time is totally wrong."
Keepin' it real: The greatest deal in history never actually was. 2. Why is New York City classified as having a humid subtropical climate?
According to NOAA's 1981–2010 normals, Central Park in Manhattan has a January daily average temperature of 32.6 °F (0.3 °C) and in July, this figure is 76.5 °F (24.7 °C). This, in combination with its generous annual precipitation of 49.9 inches (1,270 mm) means the city itself falls under the humid subtropical regime of the Köppen climate classification (see this map). Locations in this regime in general do not have winter snow cover that is reliable enough to augment cold air masses; the "subtropical" designator is only part of the climate type's name and does not mean that the city (or the surrounding region) is in the subtropics, nor that winters here are mild. |
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change MWiki08 (talk) 07:35, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 09:22, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
City of New York
Would it be appropriate for the first line to be "The City of New York, also known as New York City to distinguish it from the State...", as this would match the charter? –Zfish118⋉talk 17:16, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- No. The charter uses a lower case "c" when it uses the phrase "city of New York". Station1 (talk) 16:08, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
Makes sense. Editdone (talk) 09:42, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
Postcodes
@Station1: My contribution was reverted with the reason "doesn't seem confusing, zip codes never end in 00" (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_York_City&diff=1085304363&oldid=1084969572). But not every reader are from the US and know that. For example in France, postcodes can end with 000, that's why I think my contribution can be kept to avoid confusion. --Baptx (talk) 18:50, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- The list currently reads "100xx–104xx, 11004–05, 111xx–114xx, 116xx". That indicates all Zip codes beginning with 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 111, 112, 113, 114 and 116 serve NYC, even if not all possible 5-digit combinations within each series are used. If we were to change 100xx to 10001, we would also logically have to change 101, 104, 111, 116 etc, since none of those end in 00 either. Station1 (talk) 19:08, 29 April 2022 (UTC) Chicago and Philadelphia are similar to New York. The other way to do it would be a long list like at Miami, but I think this is better. Station1 (talk) 19:21, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
Capital of the world
A while ago, I changed the sentence "New York City has been described as the cultural, financial, and media capital of the world, and is a significant influence [...]" to "New York City has been described as a major cultural, financial, and media center, significantly influencing [...]" beliving the second version to be more objective. One user even thanked me for that but later my edit was reverted several times by another user, who did not provide a sensible explanation for his action. NYC is already described by the term "capital of the world" just about two sentences after the contentious one. I think one mention is enough, since there is no technical capital of the world, and the repetition feels unnecessary and clunky. Furthermore, arguably, cities like London may also deserve the spot, and there is a whole article explaining why NYC, London, and others could be considered the world's capital (Caput Mundi). The sentence itself also makes little sense to me. A capital city is a capital city, there are no official media or financial capitals, and since these terms are rather figurative, maybe they should not be in a knowledge source trying to be as objective as possible. Finally, to my mind, the user revering my edits is biased and emphasizes the term "Capital of the world" to prove NYC is superior for some reason. I am writing this section to hear other opinions, maybe of more experienced users. So, am I right or wrong? Szymioza (talk) 14:26, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- I must absolutely agree, there is nothing to add to the argumentation. I think I was even the user who thanked you.
- The current wording seems very exaggerated and tends to ridicule, or at least unprofessionalize, Wikipedia's description of NYC as an influential world city by engaging in nonsensical neologism.-- Maxeto0910 (talk) 10:21, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
Is Newark Airport in NYC?
Seems weird to have it there in the infobox in equal footing with JFK and LaGuardia, which both sit clearly in Queens. If we’re being literal in the infobox, then Newark Airport shouldn’t be there. If we’re representing the broader area or concept of NYC in the infobox, there should at least be an explanatory footnote. Thoughts? Mrbeastmodeallday (talk) 13:25, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
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