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== Hyperboloid? == |
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It's claimed here that the central vault (which is circular in plan view), and the vaults around it, are [[hyperboloid]]s. They're not, they're paraboloids. Gaudi did use a handful of hyperbolic arches in linear vaults, but not here and not as domed vaults in rotation (that works for parabolas, not for hyperbolas). [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|talk]]) 15:58, 10 October 2018 (UTC) |
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== Official name: ''Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família'' == |
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You may have noticed I've removed ''"Basílica i"'' from the lede sentence as well as the infobox. This is because its official name does not include this part. |
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# The [[:ca:Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família|Catalan-language]] and [[:es:Templo Expiatorio de la Sagrada Familia|Spanish-language]] Wikipedia use ''Temple Expiatori'' and ''Templo Expiatorio'' respectively. |
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# Directing a Google search toward the official website lists zero results for ''Basílica i Temple Expiatorio'' as evidenced here: <span class="{{#if: |plainlinks}}"><!-- |
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# This issue was previously raised on the article's Spanish-language Wikipedia talk page as well. A user actually contacted Carme de Miguel of the Temple's Educational Service, who confirmed ''"Temple Exiatori de la Sagrada Familia"'' is the correct name. See [[:es:Discusión:Templo Expiatorio de la Sagrada Familia#Basílica y Templo Expiatorio|Discusión:Basílica y Templo Expiatorio]]. Run it through a translator if necessary. |
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[[User:Jay D. Easy|Jay D. Easy]] ([[User talk:Jay D. Easy|talk]]) 21:07, 23 March 2019 (UTC) |
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== Bells == |
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Hello, I just want to expand these reliable sources for "Bells" section, which they mentioned "carillon". |
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* https://blog.sagradafamilia.org/en/divulgation/bell-towers-and-central-towers/ |
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* https://sagradafamilia.org/en/-/el-carillon-de-la-sagrada-familia-vuelve-a-ofrecer-el-repertorio-ordinario |
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* https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2004ASAJ..115.2529Y/abstract |
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* https://www.barcelona-metropolitan.com/features/history/the-bells-of-barcelona/ |
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* https://www.barcelonaobertura.com/es/2023/03/las-campanas-de-la-sagrada-familia-de-barcelona/ |
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[[Special:Contributions/112.204.217.93|112.204.217.93]] ([[User talk:112.204.217.93|talk]]) 04:34, 12 October 2023 (UTC) |
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== Bonet i Armengol == |
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The article contains the text "...was the son of Lluís Bonet, Jordi Bonet i Armengol. Armengol began introducing computers...". In English usage for Catalan surnames, Jordi's surname would normally be given as "Bonet", not "Armengol". See for example his [https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/06/21/renowned-architect-who-worked-on-barcelonas-iconic-sagrada-familia-dies-aged-97/ Euroweek obituary]. Unless there is evidence that he actually used the surname "Armengol" (I can't find any), I think the normal usage should be followed. In the context, however, "Bonet" would be confusing (does it refer to Lluis or Jordi?). Maybe just use "Jordi"? If not, "Bonet i Armengol". The point is very minor, but may be the reason why the link to [[Jordi Bonet i Armengol|Bonet i Armengol's wikipedia page]] is missing. [[User:Urilarim|Urilarim]] ([[User talk:Urilarim|talk]]) 21:10, 7 December 2023 (UTC) |
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Bells
Hello, I just want to expand these reliable sources for "Bells" section, which they mentioned "carillon".
- https://blog.sagradafamilia.org/en/divulgation/bell-towers-and-central-towers/
- https://sagradafamilia.org/en/-/el-carillon-de-la-sagrada-familia-vuelve-a-ofrecer-el-repertorio-ordinario
- https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2004ASAJ..115.2529Y/abstract
- https://www.barcelona-metropolitan.com/features/history/the-bells-of-barcelona/
- https://www.barcelonaobertura.com/es/2023/03/las-campanas-de-la-sagrada-familia-de-barcelona/
112.204.217.93 (talk) 04:34, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
Bonet i Armengol
The article contains the text "...was the son of Lluís Bonet, Jordi Bonet i Armengol. Armengol began introducing computers...". In English usage for Catalan surnames, Jordi's surname would normally be given as "Bonet", not "Armengol". See for example his Euroweek obituary. Unless there is evidence that he actually used the surname "Armengol" (I can't find any), I think the normal usage should be followed. In the context, however, "Bonet" would be confusing (does it refer to Lluis or Jordi?). Maybe just use "Jordi"? If not, "Bonet i Armengol". The point is very minor, but may be the reason why the link to Bonet i Armengol's wikipedia page is missing. Urilarim (talk) 21:10, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
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