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:Yeah kiddie goths think that 69eyes and HIM are Goth. Pseudo-goth. They think that any music group with dark clothes is a goth group. But they don't know the stylistic elements of Gothic rock. Without a typical psychedelic rock and post-punk sound the music is definitely no Goth rock. You're looking for the third wave of Gothic rock? Look [http://www.discogs.com/label/Strobelight+Records there] --~[[:user:Menorrhea|Menorrhea]] [[Image:Pffffft.gif|25px]] 10:47, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah kiddie goths think that 69eyes and HIM are Goth. Pseudo-goth. They think that any music group with dark clothes is a goth group. But they don't know the stylistic elements of Gothic rock. Without a typical psychedelic rock and post-punk sound the music is definitely no Goth rock. You're looking for the third wave of Gothic rock? Look [http://www.discogs.com/label/Strobelight+Records there] --~[[:user:Menorrhea|Menorrhea]] [[Image:Pffffft.gif|25px]] 10:47, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

There was a piece of trivia on this page that i deleted because it more so applied to Jyrki only, as opposed to the whole band. I put it on Jyrki's personal, SEPARATE page. I hope no one minds...if someone does then i could change it back. Rock on!!!

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Names

I've noticed that some articles about bands will have the members' real names and then nicknames in quotations, if no one minds, I'm going to do that to this article. (So like, "Jussi Heikki Tapio 'Jussi 69' Vuori".) If someone thinks that should be written differently, then by all means, do something, but for now I think it would make the article a tad bit more encyclopedic if we had their real names.--FaerytaleMalice 09:13, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Genre

In their official Myspace their genre is discribed as gothic/rock so keep it!Also in their official site is mentioning about that.Xr 1 19:45, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Myspace is irrelevant. The genre-tags in myspace are very limited. --~Menorrhea 22:49, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes but in their site they consider theirselves as Goth band.Just read the whole biography.Or I have to citate. "The future turned goth" is said there. And Because you don;t think they are a gothic group that doesn't mean the really aren't!I asked about goth group and everyone said them!

The 69 Eyes' opinion is irrelevant. Many gothic rock groups didn't use the term Gothic rock, e.g. Sisters of Mercy, Fields of the Nehilim etc. But they were Gothic rock bands. Today, there are many new groups such 69 Eyes or HIM. They use the term Gothic rock, but they're not really Gothic rock. That's funny, but it's real. The 69 eyes is a typical Sleaze Rock group with an influence of Metal. --~Menorrhea 13:08, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Their music is dark,mostly slow,melodic and gothic.They have goth appearance.People describe them as goth rock,even as goth metal(see in www.allmusic.com , and they describe theirselves as goth.So I concider them as a goth band.

GOTHIC ROCK described an old music genre, based on the foundations of POST PUNK, PSYCHEDELIC ROCK and GLAM ROCK.
The 69 eyes don't use elements of those genres. They're a sleaze rock / hard rock / dark rock band with a strong metal influence. --~Menorrhea 22:32, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh...Just stop kidding yourself.There have been three waves of goth rock so it has changed in years.And first when I visited the article it was written GOTH ROCK.Well I guess you have changed this.Why since people consider them as goth?Or you are a true goth an you want to keep things like they was in the 80s?And another thing.Wikipedia works with sources.No sources-no genre.Where in the Internet they are said to be sleaze rock/glam rock/whatever NOW???If you find it I'll not change the genre.But if you not I'll change it everytime you remove goth!Xr 1 07:18, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah kiddie goths think that 69eyes and HIM are Goth. Pseudo-goth. They think that any music group with dark clothes is a goth group. But they don't know the stylistic elements of Gothic rock. Without a typical psychedelic rock and post-punk sound the music is definitely no Goth rock. You're looking for the third wave of Gothic rock? Look there --~Menorrhea 10:47, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Trivia

There was a piece of trivia on this page that i deleted because it more so applied to Jyrki only, as opposed to the whole band. I put it on Jyrki's personal, SEPARATE page. I hope no one minds...if someone does then i could change it back. Rock on!!!