Talk:2012 IIHF World Championship

Shouldn't Slovakia be ahead of Finland now in their group? Slovakia has +8 DF, Finland +7.

Something wrong with the cites: third goes to U-18 women's world championship scores and fourth has a 'no news_id given' text there. Don't know what is the point with the fourth cite, as the groups are already on the second cite. 82.141.119.195 (talk) 03:27, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Advancement

Kazakhstan

Kazakhstan is not yet eliminated from advancing (although it is unlikely to happen). If KAZ win all their remaining games and CAN, FIN and SWI win all their games left after that, the standings will be

• Can 16
• Fin 15
• Swi 15
• Kaz 9
• Svk 6
• USA 5
• Fra 3
• Blr 3

With four games left; USA-Blr, Svk-Blr, Blr-Fra and Svk-Fra. One way those games can end that will end with a KAZ advancement is

• USA 3p vs BLR
• BLR 3p vs SVK
• BLR-FRA: FRA wins in OT, 2p to FRA, 1p to BLR
• FRA 3p vs SVK

Which would lead to this final table:

• Can 16
• Fin 15
• Swi 15
• Kaz 9
• USA 8
• Fra 8
• Blr 7
• Svk 6

So KAZ can still qualify.Lejman (talk) 15:03, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Russia

Russia is not QUITE certain to qualify yet. They can still end up in a three-way tie on 12 points with Czech republic and Germany, where each team has 3 points in their meetings (Rus beat Germany, Czech republic can beat Russia, Germany can beat Czech republic), which would then get decided on goal difference. - Lejman (talk) 21:20, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, this is my fault, sorry. I don´t understand, why I didn`t see this possible three-way tie. Thanks for correction.--CZMajkl (talk) 22:05, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

I think that Russia will be qualified if CZE gets 3 points against Italy. Am I right? --CZMajkl (talk) 01:03, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Russia is qualified after CZE defeated ITA

I don`t see any scenario, where Russia can be eliminated now. Russia can be only tied with Latvia or Norway or can be in three-way tie with GER and LAT. Russia has maximum number of points from matches against LAT, GER and NOR, so I think is qualified now.

Sweden can be eliminated eg. in tie with LAT or three-way tie with LAT and GER because SWE didn`t play against LAT yet. --CZMajkl (talk) 16:58, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Tie Breakers

Where are the tie-breaking rules within a division?Juve2000 (talk) 03:38, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

1. points against all other tied teams (in other words, head-to-head, if it's two teams) 2. goals for/against difference overall . . . eventually, if nothing else can break the tie, it's IIHF ranking.

But anyway, somebody has already slated Canada into 1st place in the Helsinki group and into the 13:00 quarterfinal game. Though that's likely where they will be, it's not a guarantee. Firstly, USA could still finish 1st--they won the head-to-head game with Canada and therefore hold a tiebreaker, and in fact they could still beat them in points if Canada loses in regulation against Belarus. As well, no matter what happens, Finland will play in the 3rd quarterfinal game. Though their chances are playing Canada in the quarters are remote, they are possible if Canada finishes 2nd and Finland 3rd OR Canada finishes 1st and Finland 4th (Finland would lose a 3-way tie with USA and Slovakia on goals for/against difference). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.208.128.117 (talk) 05:53, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Tie breaking rules are explained in detail here18abruce (talk) 09:17, 15 May 2012 (UTC)