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===Articles created/expanded on March 18===
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====New Fairy Tales (1844)====
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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on March 18

New Fairy Tales (1844)

A top and a ball (both with human facial features) lay among other toys in an illustration by Vilhelm Pedersen, Andersen's first illustrator.

Created by SutherlandStreet (talk). Nominated by SutherlandStreet (talk) at 22:22, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Jawa Report

Created by Epeefleche (talk). Nominated by Epeefleche (talk) at 21:50, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Firmat

  • ... that a swing in a children's playground in Firmat, Argentina led police to call scientists who were left "baffled"?

5x expanded by The Phantom In Church (talk). Self nom at T21:39, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cape Sparrow

Rotund little bird with a thick bill and bright markings

5x expanded by Innotata (talk). Self nom at 21:31, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wilbrahams Cricket Club

  • ...that Wilbrahams Cricket Club finished in 8th position in the Cambridgeshire Cricket Association Senior Div 1 after previously securing 3 successive promotions?

Created by BurtonH0123 (talk). Self nom at 21:23, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GRB 991216

Created by Look4light (talk), Cryptic C62 (talk). Self nom at 20:31, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Portrait of Angel Fernandez de Soto

Created by JuneGloom07 (talk). Self nom at 20:19, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Hexis Racing

A Hexis Racing Aston Martin DBRS9

Created by The359 (talk). Self nom at 19:57, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


The Natural Order

5x expanded by Staxringold (talk). Nominated by Staxringold (talk) at 19:51, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Volta Laboratory and Bureau

The stairs and front entrance to an impressive Renessaince Revial era institutional building, with brass plaques on both sides of the portico.
The 1893 Volta Bureau building in Washington, D.C.

5x expanded by Harryzilber (talk). Nominated by Harryzilber (talk) at 19:46, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]



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Sexual Healing (South Park)

A man wearing a black suit jacket and gray tie smiles as he speaks into a microphone.

5x expanded by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 15:50, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dome F105

  • ... that the Dome F105 Formula One car completed more than 900 kilometres (560 mi) of private testing, yet was never entered in a Grand Prix?

Created by Midgrid (talk). Self nom at 15:47, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Gandan Sumtseling Monastery

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Nvvchar (talk) at 10:20, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • - I checked the bit about the fifth dalai lama so



Minet el-Beida

A gate that pierces the city walls and probably led down to the water-front - although the site is now quite a way from the sea.

  • ... that it was the chance discovery, in 1928, by a local farmer in Minet el-Beida that led to the excavation of ancient Ugarit (pictured) in Syria?

Created by Zozo2kx (talk). Self nom at 09:38, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for verifying. I added a photo of the walls of Ugarit. I am afraid the site itself (Minet el-Beida) has little distinguishable ruins anymore, and certainly nothing modern as its a protect area. I will expand a little more on the history of the site and significance of the findings there, and try to find a scenic photo of the bay. Yazan (talk) 16:08, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Utility room

5x expanded by TitanOne (talk). Self nom at 05:59, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • This is problematic. This is a paid-access citation but I would expect it to be an article about utility rooms becoming more popular than laundry rooms, not about language change as the Wikipedia article seems to claim. Utility rooms (by that name) were a common feature of houses where I grew up in Middle America. Rmhermen (talk) 14:39, 18 March 2010 (UTC) .... and if I wanted etymology I think I'd go to wiktionary as the article advertises. Its an unusual subject for an encyclopedia Victuallers (talk) 17:06, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SS Empire Cedric

Created by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 04:39, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Treaty (song)

Created by User:Dan arndt (talk). Nominated by User:Dan_arndt (talk) at 04:27, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John Toner

Created by Grondemar (talk). Nominated by Grondemar (talk) at 04:10, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Jacob Kamm

5x expanded by Tedder (talk). Self nom at 02:59, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

...(alt) that steamboat and railway investor, Jacob Kamm, died five years after being hit by a cyclist? - Say who he is and don't include every detail? Victuallers (talk) 12:16, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 17

Walsh-Kaiser Company

  • ... that the Walsh-Kaiser Company shipyard was originally run by a company that had no shipbuilding expertise?

5x expanded by Ktr101 (talk). Nominated by Ktr101 (talk) at 03:34, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh well, I'll change it then.
  • ALT1:...that after the original owner of the Walsh-Kaiser Company shipyard showed incompetence, a shipbuilding and a construction company were brought in to finish the job?

Pitcher (container)

Eleanor Roosevelt's water pitcher

5x expanded by TitanOne (talk). Self nom at 02:03, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Johnnie Bassett

Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 01:27, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Chonan

Created by Ed! (talk). Self nom at 00:32, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ethics AdviceLine for Journalists

Created by E2eamon (talk). Self nom at 00:20, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Typhoon Nida (2009)

Created by Jason Rees (talk). Self nom at 23:44, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Las Damas Romanas

Juan Luna’s Las Damas Romanas.

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 23:12, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Annunciation to the shepherds

Annunciation to the Shepherds by Gaddi Taddeo

Created by Radagast3 (talk). Self nom at 23:10, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ulnaby

Created by Storye book (talk). Nominated by Storye book (talk) at 19:49, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Tetarteron and Histamenon

Obverse and revers of gold coin, showing busts of Christ and crowned emperor

Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 18:20, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Washington Bottom Farm

5x expanded by Caponer (talk). Nominated by Caponer (talk) at 17:56, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Villa de Zaachila

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 17:33, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rubén Jaramillo

Created by Malik Shabazz (talk). Self nom at 17:10, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Basilikon

Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 14:56, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sera Chöding Hermitage

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Nvvchar (talk) at 11:22, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Green Mada’in Association for Agricultural Development

Created by Gobonobo (talk). Self nom at 10:32, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Valentine Kiss and Sayuri Kokushō

Created by Nihonjoe (talk). Self nom at 08:24, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Norrie May-Welby

  • ... that in March 2010 Australia became the first country in the world to officially recognise a 'non-specified' gender, when Norrie May-Welby was found to be neither a man nor a woman?

Created by Mais oui! (talk). Nominated by Mais oui! (talk) at 05:55, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tom Cruise Purple

5x expanded by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 05:18, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Cattle and Cane

Created by Dan arndt (talk). Self nom at 05:12, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Yanko Sakazov

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 02:20, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Orvieto Papacy

A sixteenth century well

Created by Savidan (talk). Nominated by Savidan (talk) at 02:09, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Hoka Hey Motorcycle Challenge

  • There are no inline citations (including the hook).

Alfrredo Navarro Salanga

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 01:14, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 1: ... that Alfrredo Navarro Salanga, author of the Filipino novella The Birthing of Hannibal Valdez, was a three-time Palanca Memorial Awardee? - AnakngAraw (talk) 16:13, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT 2: ... that Alfrredo Navarro Salanga, a three-time Palanca Awardee and author of The Birthing of Hannibal Valdez, was also known as "Daddy Giant"? - AnakngAraw (talk) 16:13, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maurice Sanford Fox

  • ... that Maurice Sanford Fox is an American geneticist and molecular biologist who studied the efficacy of breast cancer treatments many years before it became a hot topic?

Created by Pjurgensen (talk). Self nom at 01:10, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Pairwise summation

  • ... that pairwise summation of a sequence (breaking it in half and summing each half separately first) greatly reduces rounding errors?

Created by Steven G. Johnson (talk). Self-nom by Steven G. Johnson (talk) at 16:42, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 16

Fedexia

Created by Grundle2600 (talk), Smokeybjb (talk). Nominated by Smartse (talk) at 18:43, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Harry Crosby

ALT1 ... that Harry Crosby who had an open marriage with his wife Caresse Crosby, and published early works of struggling writers like James Joyce and Ezra Pound, committed suicide in a pact with his lover?

5x expanded by Btphelps (talk). Self nom at 15:05, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Siege of Leith

  • Comment: alts welcome

Created by Victuallers (talk), Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk). Self nom at 23:03, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thx - happy with alt Victuallers (talk) 09:50, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Billie Jean black sequin jacket

Created by DinhoGauch10 (talk). Self nom at 21:18, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:DYKalt

I think that this would be a better hook because it shows not only Michael’s love for his black sequin jacket, but also his fansDinhoGauch10 (talk) 04:21, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Manawan, Quebec

Created by P199 (talk). Self nom at 16:12, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Muckaty station

Created by Hamiltonstone (talk). Self nom at 10:49, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Erschallet, ihr Lieder, erklinget, ihr Saiten, BWV 172

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 09:46, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have two concerns with this nomination: 1) The article needs to be copyedited (I'm short on time this week or I'd do it myself). 2) Hook fact doesn't seem particularly interesting. Is there something that might be more interesting about this cantata? Maybe that he originally wrote it in C major, moved it to D major with the first revision, and then moved it back to C major? Or something else? If these are addressed, I recommend adding it to the 3/21 holding area for Bach's 325th birthday. cmadler (talk) 13:54, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The hook fact may not seem interesting to you but ask the Bach fellows who claim that he would ALWAYS close with a chorale, - compare this from Cantata (highlighted by me): "The essential point, however, in Bach's church cantatas is that they formed part of a church service. Many of Bach's greatest cantatas begin with an elaborate chorus followed by a couple of arias and recitatives, and end with a plain chorale. This has often been commented upon as an example of Bach's indifference to artistic climax in the work as a whole. But no one will maintain this who realizes the place which the church cantata occupied in the Lutheran church service. The text was carefully based upon the gospel or lessons for the day; unless the cantata was short the sermon probably took place after the first chorus or one of the arias, and the congregation joined in the final chorale." So I think the hook is quite a statement. - But I will keep thinking. - The C - D - major thing is simple: tuning was different in Leipzig, so he switched, but then it got too high for the choir, and he switched back. That would be for specialists only. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:17, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't really think the key was that big a deal, of course the meaning and significance of key and tonality has changed over time and depending on tuning (equal tempered, just tempered, etc.). But without a certain degree of familiarity with Bach's cantatas it's not apparent that closing with a repeat of the opening chorus is remarkable; it's common in many forms of music (and perhaps even in cantatas by other composers?) to conclude with a repetition of the opening, or at least a restatement. Maybe this hook can be reworded, as we did with BWV 191 ("around 200 cantatas in German but only one...in Latin?") to make it clear the degree to which this is unusual? cmadler (talk) 15:22, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I wouldn't know immediately a polite way to be more explicit, found that rude enough a way of fighting the so-called "plain chorale". (I don't know a single chorale of Bach - and I know some - that I would describe as "plain".) - I thought about: that Bach loved the piece so much that he still reworked it more than 15 years later, whereas the common thing to do was to compose a new one each year if possible. Would need to be phrased ... ideas welcome for both. (btw I'll be off tomorrow.) o.k. trying one more variation on the theme - and certainly we did the repeat in 2000 and heard interesting comments, nobody believed that it had been Bach himself who wanted it that way, at least in 1714, - no repeat in 1731.:
That's much "hookier" but reads like synthesis. Hekerui (talk) 20:17, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Timbuwarra

Created by Ser Amantio di Nicolao (talk). Nominated by --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 02:35, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Georges de Regibus

A well-built white man with a moustache and short hair wearing a light shirt and a wreath on his head.

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Nominated by TodorBozhinov (talk) at 21:58, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

UdiWWW

Created by Smallman12q (talk). Nominated by Smallman12q (talk) at 20:40, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Dorofei

Created by Russavia (talk). Self nom at 16:14, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1

Lionello Cecil

Created by Aiken drum (talk). Nominated by Aiken drum (talk) at 14:35, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: someone else created it, but it was basically a word for word copy of another web page. I have rewritten it somewhat. Aiken ♫ 14:35, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Walter Cornock

Created by 8lgm (talk). Self nom at 12:27, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thirty pieces of silver

Created by StAnselm (talk). Nominated by Radagast3 (talk) at 11:50, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AN/PSQ-20

A soldier walking in a forest, wearing grey-green camouflage and helmet, holding a gun with both hands. A yellow colored night vision device is attached to his helmet.

Created by Chamal N (talk). Self nom at 11:21, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Martyrs' Lane

5x expanded by User:NovaSkola (talk). Self nom at --NovaSkola (talk) 08:02, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bracken, Texas

Created by William S. Saturn (talk). Nominated by William S. Saturn (talk) at 07:59, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A new reference has been added, and the claim is also made in the Batcon.org page at the bottom of the paragraph. --William S. Saturn (talk) 19:30, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't be comfortable referencing a claim as strong as this with sources like these. While they may be Wikipedia-reliable, I would prefer an actual peer-reviewed or otherwise academic source if I were to write the article. Ucucha 01:08, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
doi:10.1093/icb/icn051 says it's one of the largest colonies in their study area, and ISBN 9780801434754 that it is the largest bat colony in the world. Ucucha 01:22, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I added another reference, which also supports the claim. It is probably one of the most reliable sites on the web: Handbook of Texas Online. --William S. Saturn (talk) 04:35, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I changed the wording of the hook to "colony", which aligns it with the Handbook's wording and is less vague. Ucucha 12:56, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Art Pavilion in Zagreb

  • ... that the Art Pavilion gallery was originally built for an exhibition in Budapest and then transported to Zagreb, where it was re-built in 1898?
  • Comment: Expanded from 602 characters to around 3,300

5x expanded by Timbouctou (talk). Self nom at 06:23, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Carlos Alonso

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 04:50, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Otumba de Gómez Farías

  • ... that the town of Otumba, Mexico has an annual Donkey Fair where the animals feature in fashion shows and costume contests?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 03:42, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tyler Seguin

5x expanded by Captain Courageous (talk). Nominated by Captain Courageous (talk) at 03:13, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Im counting 2664 characters to the created size of 1214 which doesnt qualify under a 5x expansion. Sadly the article was re-created March 4th and posted here March 16th and is more than 5 days old. The last issue is the sourcing provided in the article indicates he is a co-recipient and not the sole winner. I do believe the hook would also require a source indicating that he is the sole winner of the award the way the hook is written, otherwise the hook should mention Taylor Hall as well. Ottawa4ever (talk) 19:20, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph H. Allen

Engraving portrait of a man with wavy hair, bushy eyebrows, and a large beard; man is wearing a suit and facing to his left.

Created by UpstateNYer (talk). Self nom at 02:28, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Eoplectreurys

5x expanded by Kevmin (talk). Nominated by Kevmin (talk) at 01:27, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, date, and reference are good. I thought that "series" was an obscure botanical term for a taxonomic rank below genus, but I see that it is also an obscure term within some invertebrate classifications for a taxonomic rank above family. I realize that most people probably won't be confused by this, as they will be unfamiliar with either definition, but I still think that the hook will make more sense to a general audience if we remove "series". Millifolium (talk) 00:26, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gowardia

  • ... that Gowardia, a lichen found in arctic and alpine tundra on both sides of the world, is named after the lichenologist Trevor Goward?

Created by Millifolium (talk). Self nom at 00:15, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Israeli naval campaign in Operation Yoav

Created by Ynhockey (talk). Self nom at 00:01, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Noah Marullo

5x expanded by J Milburn (talk). Nominated by J Milburn (talk) at 00:18, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Javier Arias Stella

Created by Arcadian (talk). Self nom at 17:48, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Overall length look ok now, but the article looks sort of incomplete to me because of the very short sections. Is it possible to expand or combine some of them? But there are more important issues to be fixed: The source given for the foreign minister fact is a blog, and the part about involvement in the Paquisha War is uncited. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 02:08, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • They can be expanded, yes, and i'm working on that. The reference for the foreign minister fact was replaced with two others, and a reference was added for the Paquisha War fact. SilverserenC 02:44, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 15

Sean Reilly (Louisiana politician)

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Nominated by Billy Hathorn (talk) at 04:15, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Never Before (album)

Created by Kohoutek1138 (talk). Self nom at 20:00, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fang Island

Created by Gongshow (talk). Self nom at 17:27, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


MUZU TV

Created by Candlewicke (talk). Self nom at 02:13, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Hengelbrock

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 13:52, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Battles of Wenden (1577–1578)

Created by Skäpperöd (talk). Nominated by Skäpperöd (talk) at 23:15, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Adolf Karl Ludwig Claus

Even hexagon in which the diametric corners are connected.

Created by Stone (talk). Self nom at 18:38, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Coucoucache, Quebec

Created by P199 (talk). Self nom at 12:57, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


James Cumming

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 11:45, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • -I can't find the source for this. Your reference to The 1702 chair of chemistry at Cambridge: transformation and change states page 318, yet the book has 318 pages. Are you sure it is on the last page?Smallman12q (talk) 21:12, 16 March 2010 (UTC) The "318" is the number of pages (pp means pages) - I missed adding p.146 (which I have now added) sorry and thx for review Victuallers (talk) 22:08, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • The pp paramater isn't meant for that, its meant to indicate multiple pages fro example 5-7, whereas the p paramater is for a single page. I'm not sure if you are aware, but there is a citation tool at http://reftag.appspot.com/ that will make it much much easier to cite google books=P.
  • Now as for the source, I looked at page 146, and was a bit perplexed as to the lexical ambiguity of their sentence, despite the fact that this was a Cambridge University Press publication . It states "...and frequently executed a cat with an electric shock." How does one interpret this? Was a cat frequently executed via electrocution in that it had multiple lives...or was it that the professor electrocuted a single cat at a time? Your current phrasing "where he was known to electrocute a cat?" implies that there was a single cat which was electrocuted multiple times by the professor. The text, however, appears to implie that by executing a cat, that he killed one cat each time. This really isn't your fault, but rather the author who introduced lexical ambiguity by using poor grammar.
  • There's also the question of "entertaining". The source states that "Cumming literally shocked audiences with an electric shock". Although from a sardonic viewpoint, this could be considered entertaining, I'm not quite sure if "shocking" people would be considered entertainment here on wikipedia...(this is of course debatable).
  • It was a most interesting read...to see that a dept. chair would condone and partake in such behavior is indeed of interest=P.
  • I hope you do not find me to be an adversary, but here at Wikipedia we do try and strive for accuracy when possible. I cannot rate this DYK nomination because I have edited the article and would not like to create a COI(conflict of interest), however, another editor is free to evaluate this DYK nomination.Smallman12q (talk) 00:37, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Sorry, I have only read this thread and haven't seen the article at all, but I oppose the hook, merely because it would naturally induce negative reaction in most readers, not to mention cat lovers. In other words, I don't see a need for selecting negative facts of questionable notability for the main page. Materialscientist (talk) 01:04, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No problem with the "frequently executed a cat" - as any fule kno you cannot execute an individual cat more than once. Don't see any issue with shocking his audiences either. Sounds quite jolly. DuncanHill (talk) 01:02, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict)I have started a thread at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#Lexical_Ambiguity.Smallman12q (talk) 01:07, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Green Lantern (film)

Created by TriiipleThreat (talk) and Wildroot (talk). Nominated by TriiipleThreat (talk) at 04:32, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alkali Lake Chemical Waste Dump

Created by Duff (talk), Tedder (talk). Nominated by Tedder (talk) at 02:55, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

America is in the Heart

5x expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 01:58, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Frankish Papacy

Created by Savidan (talk). Nominated by Savidan (talk) at 01:00, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Walter Lappert

  • ... that Walter Lappert started an ice cream company at age 61, and on Kauai, with a population of only 40,000 people, he sold out his first batch of 17,000 liters in just two weeks in 1983?

Created by Alawa (talk). Self nom at 22:57, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tambouras

illustration of a man in pantaloons, playing a stringed woooden instrument with a long, thin neck

Created by 187.59.18.121 (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 22:48, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • ALT 1 -
As it will appear exotic and interesting to many readers, I would simply state something about the instrument itself. - I.M.S. (talk) 23:24, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I agree with ALT 1; I will endeavour to improve the referencing; as it was created by a (changing) IP, I may not be able to contact them to improve references - from discussions with them, I believe that they are going to create an account, so I will try. I will also try and source at least some of it, in-line, myself.  Chzz  ►  23:53, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed? I have added inline citations to support at least all the facts given in ALT1.  Chzz  ►  00:39, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I was going to point out the inline citation problem as well. The article looks great now (hook fact is sourced). - I.M.S. (talk) 02:23, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

David Holman

5x expanded by Benjiboi (talk). Self nom at 22:19, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1882–83 West Bromwich Albion F.C. season

Created by Jameboy (talk). Self nom at 22:04, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Allan Walters

Head-and-shoulders portrait of a caucasian man in dark tie, white shirt, and dark jacket with pilot's wings on left-breast pocket

  • ... that RAAF pilot Allan Walters (pictured) made use of his aerobatic skills while courting his wife-to-be in 1930, performing stunts above the church where her father was rector?

Created by Ian Rose (talk). Nominated by Ian Rose (talk) at 21:15, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Toxotes chatareus

Side view of a silvery-gold fish with four brown stripes occupying most of the centre foreground, with a dark background. The fish is arrowhead-shaped, with a pointed snout and large eye

5x expanded by Intelligentsium (talk). Self nom at 21:05, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: Image probably needs to be cropped to remove the watermark, but I'm not sure how to do that. Intelligentsium 00:12, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Date, length, and refs are good. I'd change the hook to say what this animal is, in case it doesn't get a picture:
  • I also think that as cool as their fecundity is, spitting water at their prey is way cooler. How about a hook like:
  • ... that the seven spotted archerfish can hunt terrestrial insects by spitting a stream of water at them to knock them into the water, even when they are up to 1.5 meters away?
Millifolium (talk) 06:42, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Watermarked images are copyrighted. Cropping the watermark is not a solution.--Wetman (talk) 14:19, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The copyright holder has licensed the image under a license appropriate for Wikipedia. The terms of that license include permission for the creation of derivative works, such as a version with the watermark cropped away. Ucucha 14:26, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I removed the watermark. Millifolium (talk) 17:15, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Minuscule 658, Minuscule 659, Minuscule 661

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 19:01, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lango Sinkamba

Created by Aridd (talk). Self nom at 17:58, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Causes of the May Revolution

Joseph Bonaparte

Created/expanded by MBelgrano (talk). Nominated by Venustas 12 (talk) at 17:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mohini

alt = A wooden nude woman, wearing garlands and holding a flower and parrot, leaning on a stick. Two bearded nude maen with erect penises pointing to her, with folded hands held above their heads.

5x expanded by Redtigerxyz (talk). Nominated by Redtigerxyz (talk) at 14:19, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I prefer the wooden sculpture. But if nudity is an issue, I suggest the other one. Though the latter image is not used in the article, an image showing the whole sculpture is used, but that one does not look good in 100X100 px. --Redtigerxyz Talk 14:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NOTCENSORED. Pick whatever image more effectively illustrates the article. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 14:17, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Commented 1 image. --Redtigerxyz Talk 19:07, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sixteenth government of Israel

Created by Number 57 (talk). Self nom at 13:55, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Carlbury

5x expanded by Storye book (talk). Nominated by Storye book (talk) at 12:37, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


William Hutcheon Hall

Created by Spellcast (talk). Self nom at 09:04, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sebacina

A white crust covers the base and low branches of a plant.

  • …that the fungal genus Sebacina (S. concrescence pictured) includes species that can encrust the stem bases of living plants?

Created by RunningClam (talk). Nominated by Sasata (talk) at 06:34, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Viterbo Papacy

Palazzo dei Papi di Viterbo

Created by Savidan (talk). Nominated by Savidan (talk) at 06:31, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hungargunn Bear It'n Mind

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 00:18, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone

Created by YixilTesiphon (talk). Self nom at 17:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 14

MyTwoCensus

Created by 24.132.199.175 (talk). Nominated by Fetchcomms (talk) at 20:21, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Possum

5x expanded by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 12:57, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Richard Stapley

Created by Scanlan (talk). Self nom at 01:54, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Cécile DeWitt-Morette

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 09:26, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Weekend Wogan

Created by TheRetroGuy (talk). Nominated by TheRetroGuy (talk) at 12:50, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kevin Reilly (Louisiana politician)

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oryzomys nelsoni

5x expanded by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 22:01, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Euryoryzomys emmonsae

5x expanded by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 22:01, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


John Erskine Clarke

Created by Motmit (talk). Self nom at 21:32, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Leith Hall

  • ... that Leith Hall in Aberdeenshire, Scotland is said to be haunted by the ghost of Laird John Leith, who was shot in the head on Christmas Day in 1763 during a drunken brawl?

Created by Himalayan Explorer (talk). Nominated by Himalayan Explorer (talk) at 21:19, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Christopher Bruun

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 19:50, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Rosales Saga, Tree (novel), The Pretenders (novel), Mass (novel)

Author of the Rosales Saga

  • Comment: Quadrupled hook nominations

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 19:42, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Power of Madonna

A middle-aged woman with wavy blonde hair smiles, gazing to her right

Created by Frickative (talk). Self nom at 19:08, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello (Glee)

Created by Frickative (talk). Self nom at 19:08, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Karl Ludwig Giesecke

Self nom by hhbruun (although the article has been substantially expanded by Opus33) at 19:28, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Taklung Monastery and Riwoche Monastery

Created by John Hill (talk), Himalayan Explorer (talk). Nominated by Himalayan Explorer (talk) at 14:24, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thistle, Utah

An arial picture of of a de-stabilized mountain sliding and creating a dam and lake. Various construction activity is present to the left of the slide area.

5x expanded by Davemeistermoab (talk). Self nom at 08:23, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: One of the key sources for this hook is currently down. Google's cached version [4] can confirm the hook in the interim.Dave (talk) 08:23, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Site is back up.Dave (talk) 16:43, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Acute exacerbations of chronic bronchitis

Created by Mikael Häggström (talk). Self nom at 07:22, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

German submarine U-78 (1940)

5x expanded by Coldplay Expert (talk). Nominated by Coldplay Expert (talk) at 05:53, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Araneagryllus

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 01:34, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 13

Throne of God

John Ricord

Kamehameha III

  • Comment: moved to main space March 13 after developing in user space for a few days

Created by W Nowicki (talk). Nominated by W Nowicki (talk) at 00:45, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Treaty of Seringapatam, Third Anglo-Mysore War

Created by Magicpiano (talk). Self nom at 14:40, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Neville Bertie-Clay

5x expanded by Dumelow (talk). Nominated by Dumelow (talk) at 12:21, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Drs. Foster & Smith

  • ... that Drs. Foster & Smith, a US$250 million pet supply company, initially refused to spend any money on internet advertising, despite launching its online operations the same year as Pets.com?
  • Comment: article was developed outside of mainspace over a period of time & moved into mainspace today

Created by ThaddeusB (talk), DFSBrent (talk). Nominated by ThaddeusB (talk) at 04:32, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am considering trying to bring this article up to GA status in the future. As such, if the reviewer is willing to assess the article and/or provide constructive criticism I would much appreciate it. Thanks, ThaddeusB (talk) 04:32, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Into Temptation (film)

  • ... that writer/director Patrick Coyle first publicly showed his 2009 film Into Temptation at the hospice where his father stayed?

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 04:27, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Erioderma pedicellatum

Leafy blue-green lichen and reddish liverwort growing on tree

5x expanded by Millifolium (talk). Self nom at 00:22, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bridge of Flowers (bridge)

Bridge of Flowers

  • ... that the Bridge of Flowers, originally built as a trolley bridge, was covered in plants after plans for demolition or reuse of the bridge were discouraged due to cost and the use of the bridge as the carrier of a water pipe?

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 21:55, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. I found one sight but it triggered the spam filter, but another one was solid. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 16:34, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bamba Sutherland

  • ... that Princess Bamba, the last of the family who ruled the Sikh Empire, was said to have "lived like an alien in her father’s kingdom"?

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 20:58, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Colorado State Highway 35

Created by Pzoxicuvybtnrm (talk). Nominated by Pzoxicuvybtnrm (talk) at 20:43, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date checks out. The problem is that the DYK checker comes up 696 characters of prose (lists and tables don't count), far short of the 2000 characters minimum. You have several days to expand the new article. Royalbroil 22:46, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Boekenweek

  • Comment: The subject is also of interest because the event is currently being held till March 20, 2010.

Created by Simeon (talk). Self nom at 20:38, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Viajero

F. Sionil José

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 18:57, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2001 Angola train attack

Created by De Administrando Imperio (talk). Self nom at 18:39, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Antonio Alice

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 18:35, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Flader J55

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 16:55, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Twice Blessed

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 15:39, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chenowth Advanced Light Strike Vehicle

Created by Chamal N (talk). Self nom at 15:29, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agrimonia gryposepala

Created by Glorioussandwich (talk). Nominated by Minimac (talk) at 08:52, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ron Gomez

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:41, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

State of War (novel)

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 02:54, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Need third opinion here - I am not happy with most references, some statements (State of War was also called as "one of the finest novels of 1988" - by whom? is enotes.com respectable?) and maybe even notability of this novel (most Google hits are from book publishers, who would obviously promote a book they print). Materialscientist (talk) 23:55, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • On a quick glance, the sources linked at Questia and Goliath seem legitimate, though the citations in the article need to be fixed (for example, Questia is a link for a "[j]ournal article by Rocío G. Davis; World Literature Today, Vol. 73, 1999", and the citation in the article needs to reflect that; likewise for the article at Goliath). The Enotes, DirectEssays, and Amazon links should be removed as citations entirely, which leaves us without a citation for the hooked fact. Like you, I'm dubious about the notability of this novel. cmadler (talk) 14:48, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on March 12

Siobhan Magnus

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Nominated by Ktr101 (talk) at 03:38, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gustav Storm

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 23:43, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Noncoding DNA

5x expanded by Scientizzle (talk). Nominated by Scientizzle (talk) at 21:16, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Devil's Brood

Created/expanded by Truthkeeper88 (talk). Nominated by Truthkeeper88 (talk) at 01:07, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date and length OK. The only online citation for the imprisonment that I can see is a blog - unless I've missed something. The main ref for the imprisonment is offline. So I'm accepting the offline citation AGF.--Storye book (talk) 11:13, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1901 Michigan Wolverines football team

1901 Michigan Wolverines football team

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 19:49, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, date and image all check out. But it's difficult to verify all the points in the hook as it's a complex article, and those online links which I accessed did not bear out the hook, apart from the 550-0. One of the online citation links is broken. So please could you copy the hook into the header, with all the appropriate citations alongside? If you let me know on my talk page when you done it (quote name of article), I can then update the review. Thanks.--Storye book (talk) 10:57, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Confederate war finance


Add alt-text!
Add rollover text!

  • ALT1:... that one of the ways that the Confederacy financed their military effort during the American Civil War was by issuing money which paid interest?
  • Comment: Maybe "92 times over" should be replaced by "by 9200%". Alt image for first hook could be the Confederate money (after "printing money" in the hook). An image for the alt hook could be the Confederate dollar stamped to indicate that interest had been paid. Other hooks can be generated from the article.

Created by Radeksz (talk). Nominated by Radeksz (talk) at 12:04, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Five-dollar bill issued by the Confederate States of America
I'm fine with any of that. The two note image is nice (though I always like graphs - but that's just me).radek (talk) 15:46, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Exidia glandulosa

A clump of gelatinous, brain-like, shiny black lobes growing on a rotting piece of wood

5x expanded by RunningClam (talk), Sasata (talk). Nominated by Sasata (talk) at 06:19, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Piercebridge, Piercebridge Roman Fort

Piercebridge village green

5x expanded by Storye book (talk). Nominated by Storye book (talk) at 10:35, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ridgeway Hill Viking burial pit

Created and self-nominated by ChrisO (talk) 10:15, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • "...although Oxford Archaeology project manager David Score noted, that without analysis of all of the bodies, it was impossible to know for certain that all the decapitated men were Vikings.

Villiers High School

Created by Cubic22 (talk), SpacemanSpiff (talk), and Drmies (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 05:33, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hey, all you nice and smart folks at DYK, help me out here. I'm inclined to remove the entire "and some of them..." phrase--it's not very elegant, and the hook becomes nice and short. But what I'm concerned with is that the resulting hook may sound--callous? judgmental? when in reality the school seems to be doing pretty good. Your suggestions are appreciated. All you hookwriters and -editors: Materialscientist? Dravecky? Ucucha? Or the God of DYK, Alansohn? Drmies (talk) 21:05, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I see what you mean. Here a possible less "callous" sounding hook:
Let me know what you think. Jujutacular T · C 22:12, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
To me, that sounds like English is the first language of the windows but not of the doors. Ucucha 00:02, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Changing it into "... 92% of students at West-London's ..." would solve that problem, though. Ucucha 00:04, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds good to me. Thanks to both. Speaking of sounds, both of you are overdoing it on the U sounds in your user name--lighten up a bit, will ya. Drmies (talk) 03:54, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'll make a request at CHU immediately :) Jujutacular T · C 00:10, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
for ref fact when you agree. I'd suggest "one in ten children speak English as their first language at ..." Victuallers (talk) 13:52, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Piercebridge

Piercebridge

5x expanded by Storye book (talk). Nominated by Storye book (talk) at 22:14, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • This article has also been nominated as a double DYK (see nomination above, in same 12 March section)

Citadel of Damascus

Citadel of Damascus

  • ... that the Citadel of Damascus (pictured) in Syria is unusual in that it was built on flat ground, at the same level of the rest of the city of Damascus, instead of being placed on the top of a hill?

5x expanded by Zozo2kx (talk) and Zoeperkoe (talk). Self nom at 20:11, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Works for me. Yazan (talk) 16:53, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • In Syria its location is unusual, actually, and that's also what the reference to the hook says. How about:
ALT2 ... that the location of the Citadel of Damascus (pictured) on flat ground is unusual because castles in Syria were usually built on the top of a hill? Zoeperkoe (talk) 16:03, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Piercebridge Roman Fort

Piercebridge Roman Fort

5x expanded by Storye book (talk). Nominated by Storye book (talk) at 18:32, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • This article has also been nominated as a double DYK (see nomination above, in same 12 March section)

Paro Taktsang

  • ... that the nickname of Paro Taktsang (pictured) in Bhutan, "The Tiger's Nest", derives from the legend which tells that Padmasambhava founded a meditation cave there after travelling on a tigress?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Himalayan Explorer (talk). Nominated by Himalayan Explorer (talk) at 18:21, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Leslie Barrett

Created by Cryptic C62 (talk). Self nom at 05:04, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The theatre was the American Mime Theatre if anyone wants to try for a double hook. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 05:04, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 11

Palace of Omurtag

Excavated ruins at the Palace of Omurtag

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Nominated by TodorBozhinov (talk) at 09:10, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GCV Infantry Fighting Vehicle

Created by Marcus Aurelius Antoninus (talk). Self nom at 00:43, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    • There is nothing in the article which says that this is the first US Military vehicle to have non-lethal weapons. Do you have a source that says this is the first? Also, the hook should say "is planned to" instead of "will" as this vehicle is still five years away from prototype and there's no way to know what it may have in the end. New Hampshirite (talk) 01:53, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This source says it will be the first tactical vehicle with a less lethal weapon. Other strategic vehicles in the US Military, such as recovery vehicles, refueling vehicles, and transporters might have less lethal weapons but I've never heard of it before. I can manually check the weapon suites of other U.S. Military vehicles if you want me to. Marcus Aurelius Antoninus (talk) 19:59, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Room & Board

Created by SusanLesch (talk). Nominated by SusanLesch (talk) at 23:33, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for being rude (just asking questions which will likely fall onto our heads later), but I don't understand the main hook, the alt hook, why this company is notable, and why this nom isn't a promotion of that company. Materialscientist (talk) 07:28, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Materialscientist. Good question. I suppose it is promotion of a company. I rescued this article from deletion, and think if Wikipedia has an article about Pottery Barn (and other commercial entities) then we should have this one too. The hook was just a cool fact that I happened to find in The New York Times. I don't mind switching hooks or pulling this nomination if you'd like me to. -SusanLesch (talk) 00:52, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2: that for Room & Board, designer Vladimir Kagan built a facsimile of his sofa that Christie's had sold for $190,000?

List of historical opera characters

Created by JackofOz (talk). Self nom at 11:17, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chee Kung Tong Society Building

Created by 293.xx.xxx.xx (talk). Self nom at 03:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Almond Blossom Cross Country

Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Self nom at 02:40, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date and length check out, but citation link for hook is a blacklisted link. Could you find an alternative valid online link for the citation - or an alternative hook with verifiable citation?--Storye book (talk) 17:02, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • I spent a good half an hour trying to find a better cite but I found nothing. The site is blacklisted for spam reasons, but the linked article has obvious value for the article. The problem is a strange one: the reason is so obvious that no other sources seemed bothered to state the obvious! What can I do? Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)Join WikiProject Athletics! 17:06, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Or maybe not as that's blacklisted too! Let us pursue with the less elegant hook of:

Knut Kleve

5x expanded by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 00:27, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ave Imperator, morituri te salutant

5x expanded by FT2 (talk). Self nom at 00:06, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

lots of different wordings discussed...

(Note: ALT2 critically states it was a salute compared to ALT1. But it's 8 characters over when rendered. Any scope to trim it? - FT2)

I like the idea of ALT2 better, it invokes a nice image. But it seems grammatically backwards. Maybe ALT3: "... that after receiving the salute Ave Imperator, morituri te salutant from a group of condemned, Roman emperor Claudius ran around a lake entreating them to fight?" BTW, great work on the article! --Stephan Schulz (talk) 00:21, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A useful idea, re-ordering it. How about a synthesis, ALT4:
"... that the only known time the salute Ave Imperator, morituri te salutant was given by condemned men, Roman emperor Claudius was so upset by their response he ran around a lake entreating them to fight?"
Also within length and makes clear the key encyclopedic point - it is only known to have been recorded once in history. I like this one. FT2 (Talk | email) 02:18, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, better. Two minor problems. It's the only time the salute was given, not just by condemned men, and they did not respond to it, but to Claudius' first response. Another synthesis:
ALT5: "... that the only known time the salute Ave Imperator, morituri te salutant was given, Roman emperor Claudius was so upset by the fighters performance that he ran around a lake entreating them to fight?"
200 chars rendered, including the "..." and the "?". --Stephan Schulz (talk) 10:46, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Closing in on it I think. It wasn't their "performance" but their response to his reply, which is awkward to express. Try ALT6 which might fix it:
"... that the only known time fighters saluted Ave Imperator, morituri te salutant, Roman emperor Claudius was so upset at their wish to avoid battle that he ran around a lake entreating them to fight?"
I'd like to make "fighters saluted" into "that fighters saluted", or "fighters saluted with", but its 2 chars over. Note though the extra space ("...<spc>that")
What's a nice single word for "wish to avoid battle"? FT2 (Talk | email) 11:47, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm. We can lose the "Roman" - emperor Claudius is enough. That gives us 6 chars to play with. "wish to avoid battle" could go into "lack of fighting spirit" or "lack of fighting". "Fighting" is better than "battle", as it's not a real battle, I think. I also think the original "pleading with" procured a more vivid image for me. But what about:
"... that the only known time arena fighters saluted Ave Imperator, morituri te salutant, the battle was so lackluster that emperor Claudius ran around a lake pleading with the men to fight?" Short enough that we can even squeeze in "Roman again". Or go with "the performance" instead of "the battle", i.e.:
ALT7: "... that the only known time arena fighters saluted Ave Imperator, morituri te salutant, the performance was so lackluster that Roman emperor Claudius ran around a lake pleading with the men to fight?"--Stephan Schulz (talk) 12:34, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Lacklustre doesn't work for me. Two options:
ALT8 "...was so upset at their refusal to kill that he ran around a lake pleading with the men to fight?"
ALT9 "...had to run around a lake pleading and threatening before the men would fight?"
(Just noticed the original page was wrongly titled as well as incorrect, hence page moved from "Ave Caesar..." to the original source text's "Ave Imperator...") FT2 (Talk | email) 02:20, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
New problem: I like both new suggestions equally and cannot decide which to prefer ;-). Very good! --Stephan Schulz (talk) 09:30, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"Had to run" might carry a certain hook that "ran" doesn't, and "was so upset [...] refusal to kill" does too. FT2 (Talk | email) 14:03, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Can some third party please do the verification? Everything looks good to me now... --Stephan Schulz (talk) 09:30, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Nice and hooky and all that, but the running around is only according to Suetonius. The other writers don't mention it. Verified as far as it goes though (there's probably some tick graphic for that, feel free to add it on my behalf). Yomanganitalk 16:44, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yomangani's quite right; making the Caesars look ridiculous was a hobby and delight for Suetonius; we're a few miles from the realm of facts here but I can see no problem with this if the hook acknowledges its source. Haploidavey (talk) 00:38, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 10

Hungry Bentley

  • ... that Hungry Bentley is said to have that name because of poor food?
  • Comment: alts welcome
  • note - moved back from April Fools

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 18:29, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jimmy Sexton

5x expanded by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 21:45, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes, my mistake. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 03:05, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

R v Burgess

Created by LittleT889 (talk). Self nom at 23:34, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Canigou Cambrai

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 22:54, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Frank T. Johns

  • ... that Frank T. Johns, Presidential nominee of the Socialist Labor Party, died trying to rescue a drowning boy following his first speech of the 1928 campaign?

5x expanded by Carrite (talk). Self nom at 19:19, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

San Bartolo Coyotepec

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 18:58, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Underwater Archaeology Branch, Naval History & Heritage Command

Created by Leachers1987 (talk). Nominated by Ukexpat (talk) at 16:54, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Need one citation per paragraph. A number of paragraphs are lacking one.Thelmadatter (talk) 15:31, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Leachers1987 has been adding them. OK now? – ukexpat (talk) 14:37, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John Evan Thomas (1810 - 1873)

  • ... that Welsh sculptor John Evan Thomas was so often confused with English sculptor John Thomas that the authorities removed English Thomas's statue Boadicea to Wales, damaging it en route before it was realised that the statue was not Welsh Thomas's work?

5x expanded by Storye book (talk). Nominated by Storye book (talk) at 11:53, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Binding selectivity

5x expanded by User:Petergans (talk). Self nom at 11:16, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The hook needs to contain a wikilink to the article. Stonemason89 (talk) 15:52, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done Calmer Waters 17:30, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"is of major importance" is kind of vague. Also, there are unreferenced paragraphs in the article.--Carabinieri (talk) 02:21, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Both of these observations arise out of the fact that this article presents an over-view of a very broad topic. Each section has a general reference. References are not given for topics covered in detail in the {{main}} links. Petergans (talk) 07:50, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 9

Aiphanes minima

5x expanded by Guettarda (talk). Nominated by Guettarda (talk) at 17:58, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Colleen LaRose

Created/expanded by Andycjp (talk) and Epeefleche (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 14:31, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Nancy Nathanson

Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 22:13, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bad (Michael Jackson song)

5x expanded by Crystal Clear x3 (talk). Self nom at 21:46, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Not quite a 5x expansion yet. The article had 3337 characters of readable prose on 25 February and now has 10927 characters, a 3.27x expansion. You'll need to expand to at least 16685 characters before it's eligible. -- BigDom 22:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've just added an expansion on the article, does my recent editions to the article consist of a 5x expansion now? Thanks, Crystal Clear x3 [talk] 02:10, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What A Guy!

Created by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 23:05, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Kennedy in Palestine (1948)

Robert Kennedy

  • ... that in 1948 in one of his reports from Palestine Robert Kennedy (pictured) wrote "The Jews with their backs to the sea, fighting for their very homes...On the other hand, the Arabs say:Religious Crusade"?

Created by Mbz1 (talk) and George (talk) Self nom at 16:50, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You sure did. You called Robert Kennedy writings "rant", and have chosen to ignore at least three reliable sources for the hooks only. --Mbz1 (talk) 16:15, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Currently uncertain whether this one will survive the AfD or not, but numerous editors have expressed concerns about the article's lack of neutrality including myself, and I don't see the problems being resolved quickly. Therefore I am opposing promotion of this one, regardless of whether it survives the AfD or not. Gatoclass (talk) 05:17, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It is incorrect to say the least. Tiamut, who added POV tag, has agreed to remove it, and it was removed from the article. The only reason of you comment is I just do not like it. It is the time to stop the insinuations, isn't it? If you'd like to continue constructive discussion about so called "the article's lack of neutrality" I invite you to share your concerns at the article's discussion page, where it belongs. --Mbz1 (talk) 16:34, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's not an "insinuation" to express the view that an article is POV, it is part of one's responsibility as a wikipedian to do so where appropriate. I don't know what Tiamut's view is, but that's her affair, I am of the view that the article is still POV and I have a right to express that view as much as anyone else.
Should the article survive the AfD, I may indeed propose some changes on the talk page or even make some changes myself. Until that time however, I am not inclined to waste my time trying to fix an article that may soon be deleted. But in any case I am under no obligation to try and NPOV articles proposed for DYK, that is the responsibility of the article creator and if you fail to do so, that really isn't my problem. Gatoclass (talk) 22:30, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And BTW, it is not the case that Tiamut agrees the article is now NPOV, she only said she would stop adding the tag since you keep removing it. But she clearly still has concerns about the article, as expressed in her last post at the talk page, here. Certainly, I would tag the article myself except that would make me responsible for trying to fix it, and that's not a responsibility I am inclined to take on right now. Gatoclass (talk) 22:41, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Half of the truth is not the truth, you know. She said: "...and you've made an effort to improve it, so I won't replace it for now. I may return to the issue with more specific concerns in the future though." (highlighted by me), but so far she did not. Once again it is not the right place to discuss the neutrality of the article. I understand you do not want "to waste your time trying to fix an article that may soon be deleted. " Then may I please ask you to stop wasting your and mine time here?--Mbz1 (talk) 23:54, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Half of the truth is not the truth
Quite, but perhaps you should have taken your own advice before implying that Tiamut now approves of the article. As for time wasting, seems to me you are the one who has wasted a great deal of everyone's time by writing an article that was immediately nominated for AfD on the basis of numerous apparent inadequacies, and which others have had to spend a considerable amount of time trying to rectify, so I hardly think you are in a position to accuse others of this particular vice. And finally in regard to your other comment, while this is not a venue for discussing particular problems in an article, it is certainly appropriate to note that an article may have problems which exclude it from promotion, without which we would not have a DYK process at all. Gatoclass (talk) 00:56, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Tra-ta-tra-ta-tra-tttt. Would you please stop lying as right now? I said "Tiamut, who added POV tag, has agreed to remove it, and it was removed from the article". Where did I say "Tiamut now approves of the article?" The article was nominated for deletion by a very biased user, who lied in the deletion request, and I could prove it. Now, I consider your statements about the article to be a discrimination against my English and my writing skills. Stop it!--Mbz1 (talk) 01:44, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
So having already accused me of bad faith with the WP:IDONTLIKEIT comment, you are now accusing both myself and others of lying because they disagree with you? Sorry, but you are not doing your case any favours at all with such attacks. But for the record, I repudiate the charge that I "lied" about anything. Quite frankly, I think that if anyone has misrepresented the facts in this discussion, you have. You claimed Tiamut "agreed to remove the tag", when all she really did was acquiesce in your repeated removal of it, while expressing continued concerns about the article. You implied I was the only one with NPOV concerns about the article, when a look at the AfD page shows that numerous editors have expressed similar concerns.
Obviously, you are irritated that I have opposed promotion of this article. But misstating the facts in order to mount baseless personal attacks is not going to help your cause. Gatoclass (talk) 02:51, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I will never ever ever accuse anybody in lying because we disagree. If I stated something like that, it means I could confirm it with many evidences. Please take your concerns about my "personal attacks" to any board of your choice, and I will easily prove that I had rather good reasons to say what I said, and now please stop it.--Mbz1 (talk) 05:42, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Um, sorry, but calling someone a liar is transparently a personal attack and there can be no dispute about that. And claiming you have "many evidences" that I am a liar is just digging the hole deeper. I'm not going to report you to a noticeboard about these attacks because I can't be bothered with the wikidrama, nor would I want to burden the community with such nonsense, but what I can do is remind you that if you persist in trying to personalize disputes, it will only be a matter of time before you find yourself sanctioned for such behaviour. Gatoclass (talk) 06:12, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I did not accused you in a bad faith. You did, when you first called the article "a rant", and then accused me that I made Kennedy "sound like a cheerleader for Zionism". Guess what, Kennedy was a strong supporter of Israel. Please see that pro-Arab book page 651. It clearly states that for Kennedy Jews were good, and Arabs were bad. I assure I had no influence on Robert Kennedy at all. It is his words, that you just do not like.--Mbz1 (talk) 06:36, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, and I withdrew that remark as soon as you complained, as I realized it was potentially offensive. But it seems you are still hanging onto it. Just one more thing you are apparently not prepared to WP:AGF about. Gatoclass (talk) 09:13, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No it is not appropriate to note "that an article may have problems which exclude it from promotion, without which we would not have a DYK process at all." not without providing any example from the article anyway , and not without adding to that statemnet of yours "In my opinion".--Mbz1 (talk) 02:04, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I already stated what I felt was wrong with the article at the AfD. But for your benefit, I will repeat those concerns here. Firstly, the article consists almost entirely of quotes from Kennedy's articles, which in this case are a primary rather than secondary source. Secondly, it entirely excludes the commentary about these articles from the available secondary sources. Thirdly, the commentary about Kennedy's assassination is WP:COATRACK. Finally, secondary sourcing for this article is extremely thin, to the point that its viability as a standalone article is questionable (a position held by numerous contributors at the AfD). So hopefully now it is clear to you and anyone else what my objections to this article are. Gatoclass (talk) 03:01, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The quote from the article: "Sirhan happened to see a documentary about Kennedy in Palestine in 1948. Later in his murder trial Sirhan Sirhan testified: "...I hoped he will win Presidency until that moment. But when I saw, heard, he was supporting Israel, sir, not in 1968, but he was supporting, it from all the way from its inception in 1948, sir..."" page 658 page 103. Otherwise, if the article survives Afd, may I please ask a closing admin to check out the "thin" sources and external links in the article itself. Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 05:29, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Comment whatever the result of the deletion request, the DYK hook is very biased and out of context. You can change it , as a bare minimum to have some sort of neutrality to "The Jews with their backs to the sea, fighting for their very homes, will accept no compromise....On the other hand, the Arabs shall crush forever the invader [... and] carry on the fight". The Jews are seen by the Arabs as invaders, that's why they say that...--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 15:44, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'll think about other hook, if the article will not get deleted. Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 05:31, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bikini Barista

Created by Milowent (talk). Self nom at 15:38, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Haha. There are anecdotes in the news coverage about the coffee not being the best at some places, but yes, I agree that "making" would be better.--Milowent (talk) 20:16, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Unless you hold this for April Fool's Day (where I think it would fit nicely), in which case the first phrasing is more fun.--Arxiloxos (talk) 21:53, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Moved article from "Bikini Barista" to "Bikini barista", and changed capitalization in the hook proposal. I like the idea of using this on 4/1. cmadler (talk) 13:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
4-1 is fine by me! And thanks for fixing the capitalization.--Milowent (talk) 13:52, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

British Hero of the Holocaust

Sir Nicholas Winton, October 2007

Created by MickMacNee (talk). Self nom at 22:47, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(alt)
for cut down hook Victuallers (talk) 19:25, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I can't think of anything better given Ericoides' observation, but the original idea of the hook was to point out the fact it was mostly posthumous contrasting it with his age, so if anyone has a short way of making it more accurate...., otherwise, I guess its the shorter one suggested by Victuallers.... MickMacNee (talk) 22:03, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Mainly" or "more usually" rather than "otherwise" may be appropriate. Actually I think most readers would appreciate the correlation between posthumous and the age of your subject matter, without any 'nudge' in the precise wording. My 90 year old mother-in-law spent her early married life in the Channel Islands under German occupation - so this subject matter strikes a real chord with me. Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:56, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've drawn a total blank here. I honestly cannot think of anything exciting for a hook that highlights what I originally intended. I suggest two options - if the hook is selected with the image, then we go with:
  • and if the image is not included, then:

Lars Aspeflaten

5x expanded by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 22:45, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What Is a Man Without a Moustache?

SongMeanings

Created by Gary King (talk). Nominated by Gary King (talk) at 20:51, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Captain Bill McDonald

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Nominated by Billy Hathorn (talk) at 20:48, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT:... that Captain Bill McDonald of the Texas Rangers, as a youth during the Reconstruction era in Texas, was tried and acquitted of treason?

Solar Turbines

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 15:39, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Point Lonsdale Lighthouse

Created by Maias (talk). Self nom at 13:23, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

May Day Eve

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 00:59, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure about this, but I have also bolded the "married" part linked to Marriage and wedding customs in the Philippines. I am reverting/cancelling my withdrawal of the nom for Marriage and wedding customs in the Philippines on March 4, 2010. But I originally nominated/suggested it on 28, 2010 (See history here) If not, you may debold it, as you wish. But I hope this will be reconsidered. Thank you. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:59, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The purpose is to create a double-nom in good faith. - AnakngAraw (talk) 01:07, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 8

Bamba Müller

Bamba Muller, Cinderella

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 18:29, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sven Moren, Noregs Ungdomslag

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 23:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Falkuša

Created by GregorB (talk), Sir Floyd (talk), Grifter72 (talk). Self nom at 21:10, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of National Historic Landmarks in Missouri

5x expanded by Fetchcomms (talk). Self nom at 23:54, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Laryngeal cleft

  • ... that around 1 in 10,000 to 20,000 births have a laryngeal cleft, meaning that they have a gap between the oesophagus and trachea, which allows food or fluid to pass into the airway?

Created by Belovedfreak (talk). Nominated by Carabinieri (talk) at 19:06, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pyridoxamine

5x expanded by Scientizzle (talk). Nominated by Scientizzle (talk) at 17:44, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pretty Baby....

5x expanded by AnemoneProjectors (talk). Self nom at 00:17, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • According to the cited source, it was "the first time in British soap history" that this was done. No claim is made regarding soaps in other countries. I've updated the article and the hook with this clarification. cmadler (talk) 13:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Barro negro pottery

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 19:41, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Almost. Was at 1470 before expansion and current at 6221 characters of prose. Need 7350 to meet 5x. Calmer Waters 03:03, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I should have it now. Thelmadatter (talk) 19:19, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
7282. I have decapped Barro Negro; correct me if I'm wrong. Materialscientist (talk) 12:59, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Dang, I cant find more informtion.... up to you guys if you want to let it slide. Yes it should be decapped.Thelmadatter (talk) 23:35, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Grace, Replaced

Created by ThinkBlue (talk). Self nom at 20:54, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Barack Obama religion conspiracy theories

Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Nominated by Stonemason89 (talk) at 18:08, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT: ... that although US President Barack Obama is a Christian, al-Qaida chief commander Ayman al-Zawahiri has advanced a theory that Obama secretly "pray[s] the prayers of the Jews"? Stonemason89 (talk) 15:54, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps we can even leave out the part that says he is a Christian from the hook. And please confirm that there are no BLP concerns with this hook. Ucucha 16:12, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1968 in the Vietnam War

Dead VietCong Shock Trooper

created by Esemono (talk). Self Nom.

*ALT1 ... the week of February 11-17, during 1968 in the Vietnam War saw the most 543 Americans killed in action, and 2547 were wounded.
  • ALT2 ... that during the week of February 11-17, 1968 in the Vietnam War American forces suffered the most casualties with 543 KIA and 2547 wounded?
The hook is about the Americans but the article is about the Vietnam War i.e. there were Vietnamese people in the Vietnam war too not just Americans. -- Esemono (talk) 01:43, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • If you don't mind that, then it's OK. I was just pointing out a disjunction between text and image that bothered me. Of greater concern is that neither hook is grammatically sound. Could you please rewrite them? Ericoides (talk) 15:39, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • In your lede you say "The year also became the deadliest of the Vietnam war with the 27,915 ARVN soldiers killed and the Americans suffering 16,592 killed." You give cites for these. Should that bit be deleted then? I'm confused. Ericoides (talk) 17:29, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry, that was my stupidity. What about (assuming it's OK to have a category as a link (I'm not sure it is)):
ALT4 ... that 1968 in the Vietnam War was the deadliest year in the war for America and its Vietnamese allies? Ericoides (talk) 08:39, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds fine but I like my original and ALT2 hook better -- Esemono (talk) 13:32, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough, they are ungrammatical and don't make much sense; I'll let someone else take over. Ericoides (talk) 13:37, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think the problem is that 1968 in the Vietnam War does not really work as part of a full sentence. Can we pipe the link?
ALT5 ... that 1968 was the deadliest year in the Vietnam war for the United States and its Vietnamese allies? --Stephan Schulz (talk) 13:49, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT6 ... that 1968, with 16,592 killed, was the deadliest year in the Vietnam war for the United States? --Stephan Schulz (talk) 13:49, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 7

Anna Fitziu

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by Another Believer (talk) at 03:19, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oskélanéo, Quebec

5x expanded by P199 (talk). Self nom at 19:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


World Junior Squash Championships

Created by Arteyu (talk). Nominated by Arteyu (talk) at 13:01, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1922 Vallenar earthquake

5x expanded by Mikenorton (talk). Nominated by Ceranthor (talk) at 04:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've added a cite as requested, I've not been able to find any sources that quote numbers for deaths from the earthquake rather than the tsunami - the USGS summary page is all there is. Mikenorton (talk) 22:02, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Aryabhata's sine table

Created by Krishnachandranvn (talk). Nominated by Carabinieri (talk) at 19:15, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moorefield and North Branch Turnpike

Created by Caponer (talk). Self nom at 22:59, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Christopher O. Ward

Created by Offenbach (talk). Self nom at 18:08, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

August 8-9, 1993, tornado outbreak

Created by Marcusmax (talk). Self nom at 16:23, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Filipino cartoon and animation

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 03:43, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Very dubious hook: the only reliable-sourced statement I see in refs is "about 90 percent of American television cartoons are now produced in Asia" (CNN; maybe I missed some other?); I don't see where the second part comes from (Bill Dennis quote?). Materialscientist (talk) 06:25, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I inserted a ref for the first suggested hook above: see page 7 to 8 of http://www.tholons.com/nl_pdf/150508_philippine_Animation_Industry.pdf - AnakngAraw (talk) 17:20, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
How about this hook, ALT 1: ... that most televised American cartoon animations are now developed in Asian countries such as the the Philippines? - AnakngAraw (talk) 16:44, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT 2: ... that most televised cartoon animations in the U.S. are now Philippine-made because of the Filipinos' familiarity with Western humor? - AnakngAraw (talk) 18:36, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I don't observe reliable support for the strong statement that most cartoons are produced in Philipines. The pdf above is hardly a reliable source. The ALT1 phrasing is too obscure, even if we replace "such as" with more appropriate "including". Materialscientist (talk) 00:18, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I now turn to you and perhaps better from others for suggestions. Other editors other than you may have a more positive look on this issue. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:27, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I would be happy if you first reflected in the article the split up (even approximate) in cartoon production between the Asian countries, with reliable references (well, we don't need other Asian countries, but both CNN refs you provided so far talk about Asian countries, not Philipines in particular). This would allow developing a justified hook. Materialscientist (talk) 00:37, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT 3: ... that the first Filipino-made cartoon series for television, Panday, was created by Gerry Garcia in the 1980s? - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:46, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT 4: ... that the first Filipino full-length animated film, Adarna, was created by Gerry Garcia in the late 1990s? - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:46, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Added something from the CNN ref, thus suggesting also ALT 5: that approximately 90% of televised cartoon animations in the U.S. are now made in Asia? - AnakngAraw (talk) 01:07, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
and ALT 6: ... that American animation companies are setting up more cartoon studios in the Philippines? - AnakngAraw (talk) 01:07, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It seems as you're trying to squeeze out refs that you had whereas I thought the breakthrough should come with new references. ALT5 is not relevant (calling Philipines Asia), ALT6 is too vague. ALT 3: refs says "first animation series" - doesn't sound same as "first cartoon" (individual one). Materialscientist (talk) 08:05, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

added "series" for ALT 3. Forgot/overlooked that one. - AnakngAraw (talk) 12:39, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Clara Gregory Baer

  • ... that Clara Gregory Baer's 1895 rules for women's basketball referred to the jump shot, a shot not used in men's basketball until decades later?

5x expanded by Sphilbrick (talk). Self nom at 18:37, 13 March 2010 (UTC) --SPhilbrickT 18:37, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jhalkaribai

5x expanded by Shivashree (talk). Self nom at 09:04, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for expansion (verified). We'll see what can we do on such short notice. Meanwhile, I have the following concerns: the article abruptly ends her life description on ".. and declared herself to be the queen Laxmibai" leaving us suspended in the most interesting moment, wondering what happened to her then? Also, when and how did she die? Some phrasing needs brushing up, though this is a more technical issue. Materialscientist (talk) 09:54, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have added some information in the Life section. Shivashree (talk) 11:20, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You've added a single sentence "Jhalkaribai lived long thereafter and died as a very old woman" which doesn't sound encyclopedic and doesn't solve the problem indicated above. Materialscientist (talk) 08:10, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
To say "the English army" (repeating the error in the article) would be misleading, as there was no English army at the time and even the British Army was not the main combatant on the "English" side. The later reference in the Jhalkaribai article to "the company army" (that is, an army of the East India Company) is sharper, but see Presidency armies. Moonraker2 (talk) 12:05, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • company army would be okay rather than English army.

(alt) ... that Jhalkaribai fought with the East India Company army in disguise as Queen Laxmibai of Jhansi during the Indian Rebellion of 1857 to let the queen escape easily out of the fort? Shivashree (talk) 11:33, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a paragraph to the life section about her marriage and introduction to Queen Laxmibai. However, despite a long search, I could find no sources about her later life. Whatever I could find revolves around her fight with the tiger, her resemblance with the queen, and the incident of her disguise. It is obvious given that Jhalkaribai's story had never been a part of mainstream historiography. After her only contemporary reference by Vishnubhat Godse, we could find her first reference in Varma'a Jhansi ki Rani written almost after 100 years in 1951. Most of what is written about her in the last two decades has been written viewing her importance sociopolitical aspect rather than keeping an objective historical view. Even the history textbooks describe her story as "trivia" and complete it in one or two sentences (See this). I will try to find sources directly from someone who is acquainted to the subject. The life section of the article can be considered complete till we could find some reliable sources. Shivashree (talk) 03:31, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Offline refs AGF for the alt hook (online ref confirms the fact, though). We can include only what reliable sources say, after all. I believe this is good enough to go, unless Materialscientist or anyone else has any objections? ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 13:22, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 6

Draft Ron Paul movement

Created by GageSkidmore (talk). Nominated by Another Believer (talk) at 03:29, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Thomas Wiswall

Created by DiverDave (talk). Self nom at 05:02, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of Rhodesian and Zimbabwean football champions

Created by Cliftonian (talk). Nominated by Cliftonian (talk) at 16:08, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Verified article creation and length. This statement needs to be supported by an inline citation. There is currently a debate over whether the citation can appear in a list/table/chart or whether it must appear in prose; however, in this article no citation is given that I can find. cmadler (talk) 13:42, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Citation is given in the general references at the bottom of the page. I'll add some clarification on the matter. – Cliftonianthe orangey bit 16:21, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Holly Graf

  • ... that Navy Captain Holly Graf was relieved of command for creating an environment of fear on her ship but that she admits swearing to "intentionally pressurize the situation"?

Created by Ipromise (talk). Self nom at 04:12, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • 1st Alt: ... that US Navy Captain Holly Graf commanded USS Winston S. Churchill and later USS Cowpens before being relieved of her command on January 13, 2010? Moonraker2 (talk) 15:48, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • This has several issues: 1) bare URLs need to be replaced with formatted citations. I personally recommend {{cite}} or {{cite web}} as they are quite easy. 2) I'm concerned about this article from a WP:BLP perspective. Given that she's recieved numerous awards, and had 25 years of military service before being relieved of command (23 years of service before even becoming a commanding officer), I'm concerned that this article (and both proposed hooks) focus excessively on the recent negative events. (DYK rule 4 states, "Articles and hooks which focus unduly on negative aspects of living individuals should be avoided.") Because of this issue, the article will need quite a bit of work to become DYK-eligible. cmadler (talk) 13:33, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Muriel Dickson

Created by 4meter4 (talk), Ssilvers (talk). Nominated by Ssilvers (talk) at 19:18, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A Puro Dolor

5x expanded by Jaespinoza (talk) 10:18, 6 March 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 10:10, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Notes: The article was re-directed by PeaceNT to the Son By Four article. "A Puro Dolor" was created by Magiciandude under the title "Purest of Pain", which I re-directed to it's current title "A Puro Dolor" .Jaespinoza (talk) 10:18, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 5

Ladd & Co.

19th-century general in uniform

  • ALT1:=... that Ladd & Co. was behind the first commercial sugar plantation in Hawaii and failed international land deal?
  • Comment: moved from user space March 5; picture optional of course since article is not about him but the company and its American founders

Created by W Nowicki (talk). Nominated by W Nowicki (talk) at 19:29, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A Portrait of the Artist as Filipino

5x expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 03:59, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Verified article length, expansion, and hook fact, however, this article is classified as a stub. Also, although the hook fact comes from the New York Times, I am uncertain about the reliability of other sources used, and I'd like a second reviewer to take a look at that aspect. cmadler (talk) 13:16, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Biggest Elvis: A Novel

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Unsure about about notability here. Most of the references seem to be snippets (for instance, the NPR one is a single sentence, and the NYT one that's cited 6 times is little more than a plot summary, and the one from the Kenyon College alumni bulletin is little more than a passing mention) or Amazon/B&N listings. This caught my eye because I've taken a class with Kluge before, and I always approach articles relating to people I know with an extra degree of skepticism... rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 05:13, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Added these. See Pretenders to the King's Throne, and What happened on August 04, 1996 Los Angeles Times. - AnakngAraw (talk) 16:38, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Man (Who Thought) He Looked Like Robert Taylor

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I think it's pretty clear from the article that this is what the novel is about but can you put a sentence that corresponds directly to the hook in the article (presumably in the lede) and source it? radek (talk) 04:00, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The hook is based on reference number 2 (at the very end of that ref site); I quoted that already as seen in article ref section. - AnakngAraw (talk) 08:50, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed placement of ref mark too to show which belongs to what sentence. - AnakngAraw (talk) 09:02, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The reference appears to be a newsgroup FAQ. I'm not sure that qualifies as a reliable source. Is there anything in the Ty source that good be used to source it?radek (talk) 09:14, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This source might work [5] though I'm not 100% sure it's RS either.radek (talk) 09:23, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Or even better this [6], which is clearly a reliable source. Can you incorporate it into the article?radek (talk) 09:26, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Refs suggested works out. Thanks. Incorporated done also as requested. - AnakngAraw (talk) 09:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
, good to go.radek (talk) 10:03, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article is based on references which IMO clearly fail WP:RS criteria. Materialscientist (talk) 11:05, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think the Ty source in the article is reliable but a lot of the inline citations are to stuff that may not be. I would suggest replacing as much of the lesson plan and usenet sources with Ty (which is actually available online here [7]) and the source I gave above. The introduction to Santos' own works, since its written by a someone else can also be used [8]. Or this one [9].radek (talk) 11:38, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dinopanorpidae, Dinokanaga, and Dinokanaga

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 08:26, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tweak again into triple nomination for the family and both genera in the family.--Kevmin (talk) 19:17, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Commented on the Dinopanorpa talkpage, Dinokanaga page wordsmithed.--Kevmin (talk) 23:48, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pinki Pramanik

Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Self nom at 07:32, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't there something more positive, maybe regarding her achievements? I don't really think we should be talking about how she was harassed on the main page. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 10:27, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 4

Coenurosis

  • Comment: I'm still cleaning up the references in this apparent first article by a rookie wikipedian. I might continue on Thursday or Friday. Please feel free to beat me to this. :-) --PFHLai (talk) 22:33, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Created by Kbechelli (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 22:33, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Article needs some cleaning up. For example, the "Morphology" section says "The following are pictures of coenurosis cysts, some which have been surgically removed from humans and others that have been removed from animals after death", but the article contains no pictures (this makes me wonder if the article was copied from another source?). Also, the body of the article needs to be wikified. cmadler (talk) 18:27, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chromatin immunoprecipitation

Created by Shengliu (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 23:55, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lion class battlecruiser

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 23:38, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hook's at 215. Not sure how to shorten it, except use something generic like "ships" to cover the targets, removing most of interesting aspects of the hook. Everything else checks out though.radek (talk) 04:18, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Best I can come up with now is "that the British battlecruiser HMS Lion fired seven torpedoes at the German battleships, the battlecruiser Derfflinger and the light cruiser Wiesbaden, during the Battle of Jutland without success".radek (talk) 04:26, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mayor of Manukau

  • Comment: Moved into mainspace on 4 March.

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 11:05, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 3

Rudy La Scala

  • ... that singer-songwriter Rudy La Scala began his musical career with a band named Las Explosiones de Goma?

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 23:00, 3 March 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 22:59, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: that singer-songwriter Rudy La Scala had the best-performing Latin single of 1990 in the United States?
That is the reason I did the ALT version of the hook. The ALT is based in the Billboard Year-end charts of 1990.Jaespinoza (talk) 06:37, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not concerned about the reliability of the hook, but about the article not satisfying DYK standards, because it's not based on third-party sources.--Carabinieri (talk) 18:23, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This article has been really hard to do. I didn't find any source about the singer-songwriter (Billboard, Allmusic, Google Books). The main reason to do the article is that he had two number-one songs in the Top Latin Songs chart, and I want to take that list to FL status. Any sugestions?. Jaespinoza (talk) 20:23, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
When there are no such sources, then perhaps the subject is not notable, and shouldn't have an article at all. Ucucha 20:26, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Except that, per WP:BAND, he is almost certainly notable; he meets several of the criteria and meeting just one suggests notability. This leads me to suspect that sources probably do exist, but that they might not (yet) be online and probably aren't in English. I suggest that he should have an article, but that due to the current sourcing issues, he shouldn't be approved for DYK. cmadler (talk) 20:34, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

William Milman

Created by Motmit (talk). Self nom at 21:32, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If he went into a shop to order an MB waistcoat, then presumably he wanted to wear it. Seems he was an interesting person for all sorts of reasons which is why I put him forward. I'm not concerned about what happens to any nominations once I've submitted them, so over to you. The last eye-catching hook I did got 8600 hits - the generally boring straightforward ones have averaged about 600. Motmit (talk) 12:00, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, but I would go for an eye catching fact, "presumably he wanted to wear it" is guessing. Materialscientist (talk) 09:58, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

History of vice in Texas

  • ... that when law enforcement officials cracked down on vice in Texas during the 1940s and 1950s, some of Texas' most notorious crime figures moved to Las Vegas to help establish major casinos such as the Sands Hotel?

Created by Mcorazao (talk). Self nom at 20:34, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've been trying to verify the hook, but without success. From online sources cited in the article, I can verify that two Texans who were involved in gambling ended up in Las Vegas (Jake/Jakie Freedman was an owner of the Sands, although in one place is described as its front man[10][11] and casino owner Benny Binion was a "Texas outlaw" who was proud of his police record and served time in Texas prison after establishing a Las Vegas casino[12] [13]). (Some other sources aren't available online.) However, I can't find an indication -- in either the article or the sources -- that these were "some of Texas' most notorious crime figures" or that they moved to Las Vegas after a crackdown on vice in Texas. I like the hook, but I'm wondering if we need alternate wording or a different hook altogether. --Orlady (talk) 03:01, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I added a couple more citations to help. Here are some quotes that talk a little about the crackdowns.
  • "There was a crackdown on Texas gambling after the war. There had been twenty-seven casinos in the Dallas area during the war." -Thompson (2001), p. 21.[14]
  • "... Wilson won the position of attorney general in 1956. Wilson looked upon gambling in Galveston as the symbol of vice in Texas ... Wilson ... swooped onto the island in June 1957 and closed forty-seven clubs ..." - McComb (2008), p. 33.
  • "the state watched a 1951 grand jury investigation [in fort Worth] ... The jury indicted more than 16 gamblers ... Eventually ... gamblers found it easier to go to Las Vegas where gambling was legal ..." - McComb (2008), p. 33-34.
Some stuff about Binion:
  • Gatewood, Jim (2002). Benny Binion: The legend of Benny Binion, Dallas gambler and mob boss.
  • "Benny ... opened a casino game at the Southland Hotel, and ... established a leadership role in the Dallas numbers game.
    ... some felt they could stay [in Dallas] and try to it ride out [the crackdowns] ... Binion did not. He packed up his family in 1946 and went to Las Vegas." - Thompson (2001), p. 21.[15]
On the Maceos
  • "Galveston, under the influence of Sam and Rosario (Rose) Maceo, exploited the prohibition of liquor and gambling by offering illegal drinks and betting in nightclubs and saloons. -Handbook of Texas: Galveston, TX[16]
  • "Rosario "Rose" and Sam Maceo surfaced as the underworld leaders in Galveston." - McComb (2008), p. 33.
  • "...total income from Maceo operations was $3,329,000 in 1948, $3,433,000 in 1949, and $3,835,000 in 1950." - McComb (1986), p. 185.[17]
On Freedman
  • "By the 1930s, Jakie Freedman's was the place for the young to go in the spirit of adventure. ... This was a very handsome, very expensive, and very illegal gambling casino." - Johnston (1991), p. 323[18]
  • "The prince of Houston's gambling is Little Jakie Freedman, ..." - Fuermann, George (1951), p. 166.
  • "Jakie Freedman ... owned a large piece of The Sands in Las Vegas." - Miami News (1958)[19]
  • "Gala Sands Opening Tonight Greeting the thousands of well-wishers, principal owner Jake Freedman ..." - Las Vegas Sun (1952)[20]
Anyway, I can go on. I think you should focus on the ALT version, BTW. I took out the "moved to Las Vegas" since that could be interpreted as actually setting up residence in Vegas which was not true of the Maceos. As far as "some of Texas' most notorious" unfortunately there is no simple list of Texas top crime figures of that era that I know of. But I believe their notoriety and significance in Texas' vice is more than established.
Please let me know what more you need.
Thanks.
--Mcorazao (talk) 15:51, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting reading! I haven't had the time to do a thorough review yet. However, while you've convinced me that there were vice crackdowns in Texas, and some of the most notorious gambling and prostitution operators moved their operations from Texas to Las Vegas, that's not enough to support the DYK hook. The hook needs to be supported by the content of the article, and the article content needs to be supported by the sources cited in the article. Are the sources that you cite above also used in the article? --Orlady (talk) 19:49, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Though certainly anything that will get this through DYK is ok, my personal opinion is that a statement like this doesn't say much. Cities all over the U.S. (and the world) have had vice districts like these so that is nothing particularly unique. The fact that Texas organized crime figures had important roles in founding major venues on the Vegas strip, to me, is more interesting and more unique. But again, if this is what it takes to get through DYK I'm ok with it. --Mcorazao (talk) 16:12, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I am confident that this article can go to DYK with a really interesting hook. (There's been a lot of interesting vice in Texas!) It's just that reviewing it requires a lot of uninterrupted attention. --Orlady (talk) 19:36, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There are some really interesting points in the article, but I'm having a hard time phrasing them to include the link to the article. For example:
  • Fort Bend County for a time registered more liquor licenses than all other businesses combined.
  • So many immigrants to the state were criminals and others fleeing the law from other parts of the U.S. that in many communities it was considered impolite to ask too many details of a person's past.
  • Though prostitution was illegal in most cities it was not only tolerated but accepted; bordellos were commonly licensed, and the businesses and prostitutes were "taxed" by way of regular fines that were imposed upon them.
  • In San Antonio, following the practice in other parts of the U.S., an annual guide was published for the city's Sporting District ranking the brothel's according to quality and cost.
  • In 1906 Dallas city commissioners created the "Frogtown" district northwest of downtown officially making prostitution legal, in contradiction to state law.
Any of these could make interesting hooks, they just need to be worded properly to include the link to the article. cmadler (talk) 20:16, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 28

Tiger Raj Singh

Created by Nikki311 (talk). Nominated by Nikki311 (talk) at 02:50, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm always still against "Here is a fact about somebody/aProduct in the news lately we want to promote" - this being a prime example. It would need a hook, not just a fact, to make it interesting enough for people to click through and read. Sherurcij (speaker for the dead) 00:20, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The AFD seems to be leaning to "keep", but I copyedited the article and it is now under 1500 b. Ucucha 13:56, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Special occasion holding area

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

Articles created/expanded for March 21

Gächinger Kantorei

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 14:43, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

suggesting to post it on the composer's 325th birthday, still celebrated ("Old Style Date") 21 March. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:57, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • / The first is for Gächinger Kantorei which appears to check out on references, dates, and length but has a few paragraphs with no references at all. The second is for Bach-Collegium Stuttgart, a stub of just 1099 characters of prose. - Dravecky (talk) 23:38, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I added a few references to Gächinger Kantorei. Please be specific as to what else should be referenced. Requiem of Reconciliation or Die beiden Neffen - I thought the respective articles are reference enough. I could list many more festivals according to the Oregon reference. I might also refer to reviews such as [21], quote: "Helmut Rilling's Bach still has not received the acclaim it surely deserves, particularly from the critical community in English-speaking countries. The reasons are not hard to fathom: he hasn't toured or conducted frequently outside of Germany (aside from the Oregon Bach Festival, one of America's best kept musical secrets), and his work competes directly with the many authentic instrument groups in the U.K. and France, and so faces an uphill battle against some pretty entrenched musical interests. But there's no question in my mind that he is one of our great Bach conductors, and this new recording of the B minor Mass bears this out." As to Bach-Collegium: I would have preferred to treat the two ensembles in one article, as Amsterdam Baroque Orchestra & Choir, but the (many) red links had them separate. Should I really repeat more of the choir information in the orchestra article. (I don't like redundancy.) Thanks for your interest! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:22, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Gerda, I'm glad to see you still here and improving our English-language coverage of German music(ians)! If you think the Bach-Collegium Stuttgart would be best addressed within the Gächinger Kantorei article (which makes sense, given the close relationship), merge it in as a section of its own, and then make Bach-Collegium Stuttgart a redirect to that section. That way the links will point to the correct portion of the article. If you want to go this route and need help, drop me a line on my talk page. Thanks, cmadler (talk) 15:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for this sensible suggestion. I looked at it but found it tricky to include the orchestra as a separate entity into the Kantorei (btw: any good English term for that kind of a choir?) because even after the orchestra was founded the Kantorei did many programs with other orchestras. Therefore I suggest
  • Sorry, I don't know a simple English term for that. The best I could do would be to call it a "professional mixed choir primarily performing sacred music" -- a description, not a term. cmadler (talk) 16:34, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Semi-professional? (Meaning, either paid, but at a low level, probably not the participants' primary job, or sometimes meaning unpaid but consisting of members who are mostly professionals in that field, such as an orchestra made up of university instructors.) cmadler (talk) 18:43, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, sort of. See (new) ref 5, all quote: "They're very musical. ... They have a distinct sound - that is, less vibrato than you have in other choirs. Their dexterity, their musicianship, their sensitivity is first-rate. Having worked with Rilling over many, many years, they have an expressiveness and an understanding of interpretation, particularity of Bach repertory, that really is wonderful." - Saltzman's not the only one singing the choir's praises. It's abilities are readily apparent to anyone - especially to critics - who has listened to Rilling's recordings. Together with their orchestral partner, the Bach Collegium, they have recorded all of Bach's cantatas and passions - some 200 in all - on CD. ... They have also sung many world and European first performances including "Litany" by Arvo Part, and "Requiem Versohnung" and "Deus Passus" by Wolfgang Rihm. ... Yet, for all its visibility - the choir sings 60 to 70 concerts a year - Rilling points out it "is not a professional chorus in the way that they would make their living from that. They are getting paid expenses and hotels and so on, but they are not really paid people. It is a challenge for them to be in that chorus." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2, suggest holding this for March 21 anniversary. Struck through other hook proposals so they aren't accidentally selected. Added "first complete" to ALT2, as that's the really remarkable part. cmadler (talk) 14:30, 12 March 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Gloria in excelsis Deo, BWV 191

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk), Eusebeus (talk). Self nom at 20:18, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The fact about the early Christians having used that symbol is true, but to mention it also in the hook would make it too long, right? Also it is not part of this article, the first one about a Bach cantata with the new format for the article name, adding the number to the German (or, as in this one and only case, Latin) title. - I doubt, by the way, that the hook fact is so commonly known. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:08, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
But You'd have to cit this fact in the main article. -- Esemono (talk) 11:54, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • We could use this [22] stating that there is A Latin cantata "... no surprise that there is a generous collection of Latin church music in the Bach treasury, including two versions of the Magnificat, four Lutheran Masses (five if you include the Missa* BWV 232), a Latin texted Cantata (BWV 191) and for many the ultimate Bach work, his Mass in B minor ..." - but I personally don't like the wording that Bach "shamelessly" reworked, in there. Or this [23] (click on "full text") - but that's liner notes which my esteemed co-writer doesn't approve ... - Or you just look at the complete list and see the one Latin among all the Germans and two Italian ones (203 & 209). Proposing therefore (also because "cantata" is a rather poor article I would not like to link to, - a more specific "Bach cantata" in preparation):
  • ALT2 ... that Gloria in excelsis Deo, BWV 191, a sacred cantata of Johann Sebastian Bach, is the only one of his cantatas set to a Latin text? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:34, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I also found one more, and this review states it also. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:54, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thinking further: "sacred", "Latin" - quite heavy stuff for main page, and redundant, - assuming that many people might know that "Gloria in excelsis Deo" is both. Also it's not so interesting that Bach wrote only this one cantata in Latin (reworking what he had written in Latin before), but surprising that he wrote one in Latin at all. So I suggest to return to the original hook or perhaps
  • Length and article creation are fine, and ALT4 is a good hook, except that I can't find that fact cited (or even explicitly stated) in the article. Please add it in, with a citation, and this will be ready to go. cmadler (talk) 13:05, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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