Template talk:LGBT rights table Asia

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You may be interested in the discussion at Talk:LGBT rights by country or territory#Consistency of table headings across the continents regarding the column headers of this table. - htonl (talk) 19:25, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Malaysia

A dramatic edit was made by 219.93.35.6 regarding LGBT rights in Malaysia. You may take a look at the full edit here.

This edit does not make sense to me. Malaysia is an Islamic country with very strict laws, where homosexuality is sometimes punishable by corporal punishment. Thus, it's hard for me to believe that same-sex marriage and adoption is legal in this country. It's also hard for me to believe that the Malaysian government has passed laws banning anti-gay discrimination, as this edit claims.

Since no sources were given for this edit, I have undone it for now.

I also suggest to look at these questionable edits on LGBT rights in Malaysia. Guycn2 · ☎ 22:12, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

iraq?

according to this table same-sex sexual activity is both legal and illegal in iraq. the table indicated that it was legal until a recent anonymous edit changed it without providing references, citing paragraph 401 of the penal code. the paragraph, cited in LGBT rights in Iraq, states "Any person who commits an immodest act in public is punishable by a period of detention not exceeding 6 months plus a fine not exceeding 50 dinars or by one of those penalties". so it doesn't appear to be illegal, though it is of course possible that people are being persecuted using this paragraph, but no source has been provided. some clarification would be in order.--Exjerusalemite (talk) 21:39, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

doesn't look like there's any opposition so i'll go ahead and change the table to reflect the sources.--Exjerusalemite (talk) 22:26, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

I oppose this edit. I'll add the source. 91.196.124.230 (talk)

your source does not support the claim. please discuss here before adding unsourced material.--Exjerusalemite (talk) 23:15, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

User:Ususer445, the info you added is incorrect. paragraph 401 does not ban homosexuality. and regarding vigilantes -- this table is about rights, not about criminals targeting lgbt people. the cited references show that there is no death penalty or any other penalty for homosexuality in iraq.--Exjerusalemite (talk) 16:55, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

User:Exjerusalemite see the compromise edit. I feel that BayardFuller has made a fair middle ground edit, listing it as generally illegal, while still noting the vigilante attacks which are important as they are common and are performed by both government officials and citizens, making this distinction that it makes the action defacto illegal by way of the morality laws (much like Egypt). Ususer445 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 04:19, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

User:Ususer445, no, it is not punishable under paragraph 401 or under any other law, unless you have evidence of that. i don't know if you read the law that you are citing, it makes no mention of homosexuality. this table is about lgbt rights, so what you call "vigilante" is irrelevant -- those are criminal assault against innocent people who broke no law in their country. please discuss here before editing, you keep reinstating an incorrect version.--Exjerusalemite (talk) 05:01, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Sorry but the ILGA have considered Iraq de facto illegal like Egypt, however the Human Rights watch considered Egypt illegal but it didn't specifically says if consensual same sexual activity is legal in Iraq or not. Based on ILGA's data and From Outright action international , Iraq is de Facto Illegal like Egypt . But you know the best , if you actually know the valid sources . Just put the references in Bayu Fuller (talk) 15:56, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

User:Exjerusalemite Bayu Fuller (talk) 16:01, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

your ilga source explicitly contradicts what you're saying. it says the legal code in iraq "does not prohibit same-sex relations". it says that lgbtq people are persecuted by "self-proclaimed sharia judges" and "militias" which is irrelevant to the question of rights. this is violence committed by criminals and terrorists, not by the state. do you understand what this table is about? please establish consensus before reinstating incorrect info.--Exjerusalemite (talk) 02:45, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

No Sources for North Korea

North Korea has no sources associated with it. This is a big, big problem, and I have removed the claims as such. If anyone has reliable sources on the subject, please furnish them in the template so that they can be verified and feel free to accompany them with relevant changes. Tyrone Madera (talk) 18:00, 6 December 2021 (UTC)