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hello Bub

How's the library business? You'll see that I flicked a crumb off the surface of that Châteauesque article, which you seem to have adopted, in your legendary fashion. D is damn near halfway through law school and honing her skills on "Litigation: the Home Game", but still retains some reassuring gaps in her knowledge. It's growing colder at night and Portland around Homecoming looks like a Norman Rockwell autumn, achingly photogenic, if you can picture a Norman Rockwell autumn peopled by whippet-thin hepcats with sideburns, tattooed piercings and heavy black-frame glasses. Life is rich and strange. There are actually adult kickball leagues up here. Hope you're well, truly. --Lockley (talk) 08:03, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Quick reverts

See here I use Huggle (which I actually just tested out for the first time. It's very handy for quick reverts and warnings. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:37, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Meaning Huggle just reverts stuff fast; it's pretty easy to use and if you want, you can download it yourself and give it a try (as long as you have rollback rights.) I would like to gently suggest that you consider archiving your talk page as it's getting a bit long and approaching browser-breaking size. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:43, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Archiving This is how I do it and I have a template that you can copy and amend if you want. Let me know if this is still unclear. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:48, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Niehaus

That's a great photo of the bas-relief! I've been on a wild-goose chase. The U.S. Senate website mentions an equestrian statue of Grant for NYC by Niehaus, but I think it's a mistake. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 16:43, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

My guess is the one by William Ordway Partridge.

Not to harp on something that may already be resolved (February 2011), but what is your source for Edmond Amateis having carved the pedimental sculpture for the Buffalo and Erie County Historical Society? The Buffalo Architecture site is confusing and contradictory. Did the pediment remain blank from 1901 to the 1927-29 expansion of the building? I e-mailed BECHS in the hope of a definitive answer. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 13:43, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Okay. Here is the deal about this. First of all, it comes from these guys. [1]. Now you would do well to ask, "So who these guys, and I can't find that info on this site anyway?" to which I'd reply, "Well. no, that information is on the "You need a password (actually, two) to find that info there, and those guys are okay and here is a section from their correspondance with the folks in Buffalo, who wrote,

"Thank you for your interest in our building.  Edward Amateis executed sculptural plaques that were added to the exterior of our building in 1929 and is credited in one of our publications with the pediment as well (1930): http:// -- tinyurl.com/45qbc5p"
Does that help? Oh yes, one more thing. Neither Amateis not Niehaus "carved" anything. That was probably done by the Piccirilli Brothers.

Another fascinating factoid. When I tried to post this it turned out that http:// -- tinyurl.com/45qbc5p is on a wikipedia span blocked list? WTF? So I added two -- in the middle and you'll have to cut and paste if you want to check it. Life is just too strange sometimes Carptrash (talk) 20:33, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. That makes sense. The pedimental sculpture seems a bit too Art Deco to me to be Turn-of-the-Century. I'll share what BECHS says if they e-mail me back, and fix everything in the articles.
BTW, I notice you've been contributing to the Niehaus article for more than 6 years.[!] Me, I'm still a rookie. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 23:16, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

The curator at BECHS just e-mailed me back, saying that he thinks the sculptor of the pediment was Amateis. Their library is closed today, but he'll try to get a referenced source tomorrow. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 15:21, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

I changed "carved" to "modeled". I am impress with how many of the images I've added to List of equestrian statues in the United States are yours. Everything from Princeton, New Jersey to Prescott, Arizona. You get around. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 14:25, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Naughty, naughty

Is this the raciest figure ever modeled (not sculpted) for a war memorial? I wonder what John Ashcroft would think. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 22:25, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

As she offers her breasts, it just gets funnier when you read the inscriptions.

Above:

Iowa, her affections, like the rivers of her borders, flow to an inseparable union.

and below:

Iowa's tribute to the courage, patriotism and distinguished service of all her soldiers and sailors who fought in the War of the Rebellion.

Most enjoyable. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 23:12, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

i WILL confess that I was not sure about posting this one, but, I didn't commission it, make it or even carve it. Just snapped it. I will confess thqat the pose is still a bit puzzling to me. Carptrash (talk) 00:00, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Who knows, maybe your photo will make her famous.

She reminds me of Alexander Stirling Calder, whose statues sometimes got surprisingly sexual, but that was a generation later. Thank you for the Gettysburg equestrian pix. By any chance, did you photograph Frank Furness's 6th PA Cavalry Monument? It's a work I'd like to see better known. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 02:27, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

WWI Memorial Atlantic City, NJ

Just stopped by to thank you both for the Equestrian list, but perhaps the AC, NJ Memorial is "racier," OTOH it's also gorier. BTW, they do a bit of dairy farming in Iowa. Maybe that explains it? Smallbones (talk) 19:06, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

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Perhaps we need to start an article called

Statues to NOT visit on a first date, unless . . ..... Statues TO visit on a first date?
And while this might seem like both original research and opinion, what the heck. Carptrash (talk) 23:48, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

The Princeton wench must be Peggy Shippen Arnold, whose mad scene, semi-dishabille, discombobulated Washington and convinced him that she couldn't be part of her husband's treason. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 20:48, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

There's also War from the Sherman Monument in DC. A crone, if I ever saw one. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 20:56, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

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Categorized under Living people; Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard would have been best, as watching admins & editors deal with that most often. Cheers. Dru of Id (talk) 03:39, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

GW Carter

Thanks much for creating the entry on my Dad! So ironic that yesterday I was showing off his work to some people and the next thing I know is the person pulled out their smartphone and starts telling me about his career. I asked where on earth they got the info, and they said Wikipedia! I knew there was no Wiki entry - that is until you posted it just a couple days ago... The timing of these events are too weird. BTW the mention I make of the trotter woodcarving at the Harness Racing museum was unknown to me until three weeks ago. Our family had no idea this diorama existed, until 3 weeks ago! My father didn't know what happened to it when his parents estate was settled, and we left it's fate in limbo. I get a call out the blue only to find out find out it's in perfect condition - that is - for a carving that's over 70 years old! I would have wanted it in a museum anyway, but it it was already there for about 40 years...

Thanks for the wiki posting tips and I will be mindful of them. I do plan to post some pictures with the entry once I am passed the 4 days waiting period. The picture business does seem rather complicated though, so it may take a number of attempts to get it all to look decent.

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I have never done this before

Let's see what happens? Should I spell out my issue here or wait? Perhaps both? Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 02:55, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Okay. I have been working on this article List of monuments of the Gettysburg Battlefield and it was going along just fine. Then, yesterday (though I just found it) this edit occured.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_monuments_of_the_Gettysburg_Battlefield&diff=prev&oldid=490484553

It was probably a good faith edit by an annon user who had just enough knowledge to be dangerous. Now the article is (opinion) a mess, but because several edits have occured since that disaster, I can't undo it. Can you? Carptrash (talk) 02:58, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

So now I'll try this.

I have been working on this article List of monuments of the Gettysburg Battlefield and it was going along just fine. Then, yesterday (though I just found it) this edit occured. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_monuments_of_the_Gettysburg_Battlefield&diff=prev&oldid=490484553

It was probably a good faith edit by an annon user who had just enough knowledge to be dangerous. Now the article is (opinion) a mess, but because several edits have occured since that disaster, I can't undo it. Can you?

Carptrash (talk) 03:30, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

One can revert (more detailed instructions) to an old version of an article manually by bringing it up in the history, making a null edit on the old version, and saving it. You'll get a warning message to the effect of "This is an old version of this article. If you save you will erase any more recent changes" which tells you you're doing it right. Twinkle also has a button that allows one do do this via any diff page.

I think, though, that if at all possible this edit should be improved upon rather than reverted. The IP did add some significant content, albeit not in a very pretty way. Danger! ^{High voltage!} 07:28, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

File: St GuadensShaw Mem.jpg

Could you rename these to correct spelling? I'm not a power user and don't know how to go about that myself. Thanks, Cliffewiki (talk) 15:32, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

I missed the benches

I never noticed the benches for viewing the Cavalry Charge and Artillery sculpture groups at the Grant Memorial in D.C. Even though it was dedicated 57 years after the Civil War, the vividness of the figures must have been overwhelming for those who lived through the war or grew up hearing about it. Grant's Tomb in NYC used to be the most-visited attraction in the United States. Valley Forge and Gettysburg produce big emotions. D-Day, too. But imagine if D-Day was happening close to where you lived, and the outcome was likely to change your life, one way or the other. Veterans have a strong understanding of this, but I wish the general public did, too. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 02:18, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

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I randomly stumbled across your userpage. You're very funny. This is very refreshing as the site has seemed inundated with angry, humourless POV warriors of late (or at least the areas of it I frequent) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.228.117 (talk) 03:46, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

I think that this is a good thing. Where is your user page? Carptrash (talk) 14:07, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

You have a third thumb?

Thanks, but I haven't done that much. Just gone looking for images on Commons. It's guys like you who write the content who make the big contributions. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 15:43, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Well, if something gets challenged, I'm sure Wikipedia will take it down. My earliest posts were about architects, uploading HABS images to the Commons so they could be added to the articles. I didn't understand how important categorizing images was. Sorry, if I seemed like a jerk. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 16:33, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

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George Edwin Bissell

I added dates from SIRIS where I could. No sign of a Robert Burns statue in Ayr by Bissell. I'll come back to this. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 23:16, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

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Puebloan dwellings

Hi Carptrash, thanks for the feedback. There have been ongoing issues with that page for quite some time, and I do appreciate that my actions might seem drastic. However, the page was poorly written from the beginning, with lots of unsourced speculations about ancient cultures about things that are unlikely to ever be known for certain, unsourced statements about modern cultures that are downright false, and misinterpretations of citations from archaeological literature. Some of the more egregious stuff was already removed a while ago; I put citation needed tags on much of the rest of it a year ago and made some notes on the discussion page, it appears that the original author of the page couldn't be bothered to fix their own errors, and so I thought it'd be better to remove the unsourced speculative information, as this doesn't really have a place in Wikipedia. Of course, others are welcome to disagree with me and to restore some or all of the text I've removed, but I don't think that would be beneficial given that it is almost entirely unsourced, most of it is speculative, and some of it is downright false. Thanks for taking the time to leave me a message and hopefully this is the end of the problems with that page. --ಠ_ಠ node.ue ಠ_ಠ (talk) 21:45, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

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I didn't know the organization, just the writer. Maybe we should move to e-mail. I tried to e-mail you last week at the architectural sculpture website. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 19:03, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

I did check the email there - to no avail. Try me at eeklon at yahoo dot com. I suspect that we will have stuff to chat about. Carptrash (talk) 14:37, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

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Gettysburg

Where is that list of monuments that you need pictures of? I am hiking the whole battlefield this weekend --Guerillero | My Talk 01:44, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

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Knoxville Hiker

I an new to this but when I added the information on the Knoxville Hiker and all the inscription data it made the knoxville page very large and none of the other inscriptions were there either. So I edited my own work. Are you interested in the Hiker monuments? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbberry (talk • contribs) 21:48, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Hiker Monuments

I have added ten locations to the page and an wondering if the Everett, Mass in Middlesex county is the same location as the one located in Oak Grove Cemetery in Medford, Middlesex county, Mass? I also believe there is a Hiker Monument in Memphis, Tennessee as well. Several years ago I added many of these monument in the findagrave. com webpage and volunteers have photographed many of the ones I added today. I assume those photos cannot be added here? Jbberry (talk) 23:07, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Kitson Hiker

I must have exited and not signed in on the last edit or two? The photos are on the findagrave.com webpage and most of the photographers are funny about the photos they take so Im not going to take any of them for this page. Better safe than sorry. I believe I have them all in except one I am trying to verify in Winchester Park, AShburnham, Mass. Still not sure about that one. It is exciting to see them all on one page. Do you know if any were created and later taken down or destroyed? Jbberry (talk) 21:30, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

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A month of pouting is enough

	An end to the pout and the edit drought. Make it fast and have a draught!
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Thanks 13. I've got 3 or 4 cold ones, waiting for me in the fridge at home (work first, then play) - I converted a new wikiconvert (I think) today - life is good. Carptrash (talk) 22:56, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

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Parducci

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Yes, very much so. eeklon at yahoo dot com, if you don't already have it. Looking forward to seeing what she says. Carptrash (talk) 19:46, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

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Please see the article: Jenny Ealin Delony. It is not a copy and paste. LHBaker has made the necessary changes. Can you please correct. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmwydra (talk • contribs) 22:14, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

You mean my "newbie" is showing?!?

Whoa..."been away so long, I hardly knew the place..." (I even forgot that I had already established my account - lol!) Yep, I am no stranger to Wikipedia as a reference source, but my comments to you were my first effort to go beyond the browsing stage. Now, I have been authorized to write a Wikipedia bio for a successful and well-recognized Nashville songwriter. He's a very interesting character who actually revealed a good deal of his personal life to me since I made the offer to do this. The offer was made as a result of my being able to locate a string of references here to songs that he had either written or co-written, but all of his references were in red, meaning...well, you know. I asked if he paid a publicist to do things like this, as many do. He said, "No, have at it." He also said, "My life is an open book." and began sending me references to online interviews and details that I had only had limited awareness of, including his unexplainable and "miraculous" (by all accounts) recovery from death (by legal definition, 3X) from "full-blown" AIDS. (i.e., way beyond "HIV positive" status)

I have known and been friends with he and his wife (i.e., of some 30 years) for about a decade now, and though he credits her with being his "saving grace" and claims not to have had "gay sex" since they were married, he was pretty active in the gay community that existed in "Nashville Underground" for a good deal of his adolescence and young adulthood. Juxtapose this with being accepted early on by the Southern Gospel music and publishing industry/community, and you have the makings of a fairly incendiary "early years" segment. These days, he's seen and heard around Nashville songwriter haunts pretty routinely and divides his time between this, instructing a few select "students" in the art of writing for the Nashville market and driving his tractor on their farm.

Oh, and by the way, the chromatic harmonica is definitely a "different animal" in terms of learning to play it, let alone "master" it, as the examples you have cited have. But it IS a harmonica, nonetheless. If the distinction is between a "harp" (colloquial) and a harmonica, then I can appreciate your discernment between instruments and the players that play them. But I would bet "dollars to donuts" that either Stevie or Toots, known for their chromatic skill, could pick up a diatonic harmonica and play some Blues that would make you want to run for cover. So...what were we discussing? :) Aloha. (>]:o)~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patdahat (talk • contribs) 12:51, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

'Just Dropped In To See What Condition Your Condition Was In...

Bummer. Didn't your MD warn you about trying to change careers so late in life? The NFL place kicker role might seem glamorous at first, but difficult to sustain without Wheaties and warm-ups. Know what I mean? Take care, be pono and thanks for the Wiki guidance - always appreciated. Aloha.(>]:o.~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.22.57.142 (talk) 20:54, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Carptrash Photo

Nice hat! I bet it has some stories to tell. I should know... (http://www.facebook.com/PattheMFNHat) Aloha. (>];o)~ Patdahat (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:13, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, a good hat is like a good woman. Carptrash (talk) 21:12, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

So..... ?

I take it we have been editing the same articles.... ?

Reg.

EKM — Preceding unsigned comment added by EinarKM (talk • contribs) 16:46, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Cashwan Website

Saw that you were looking for the owners of Sam Cashwan's website. I am his great grandson (I knew him and enjoyed visiting with him in his studio). The site is owned by my family (I believe my uncle did the work for it, but I am not sure). Anyway, I can probably help or get you in touch with those who can help if I know what it is you're looking for. I believe you can contact me through my Wikipedia account?

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Hope to hear from you ! Sincerely.. Nan ( [email protected] ) Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bilingual2000 (talk • contribs) 13:17, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

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Took care of it for now. Deserves expansion and a gallery at least. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:50, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

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GLAM: Philadelphia Museum of Art update

Hi GLAM PMA folks! I wanted to update you about some recent events related to our fantastic Museum. I met Jessica Milby, PMA Collections Information Project Manager, at Wikimania in July. Jessica was looking for ways to improve articles on Wikipedia about the Museum and its artists/collections. We followed up a few weeks later at the Perelman Building in downtown Philadelphia where we discussed ways to increase participation in the GLAM/PMA project.

• The first idea is to do some outreach to the GLAM:PMA project members, including mass messages updating you all about plans and, seeking feedback about new ideas, and hearing your thoughts about what's in the works.
• The next step is a drive to improve the main Philadelphia Museum of Art article. The article is currently 'B-Class', but Jessica was confident that with the abundance of high quality sources about the Museum that it could be improved even further. Jessica recommended this extensive source from the Museum's website.
• Another idea that came out of the meeting was a project within the Museum to assess which PMA-related topics are missing articles on Wikipedia.
• One of Jessica's ideas is to have the knowledgeable curators of the Museum provide recommended reading lists for PMA-related articles. That should be a great first step to guiding editors towards the information they need to expand and improve that content.
• Also raised for discussion were some ideas about how to engage the broader community. There is interest in setting up a tour/edit-a-thon, but this remains in the preliminary stage. Would you be interested in participating in such an event?
• We have new stats! These 24 articles are all under the PMA project. I compiled the last 90-day page views and then annualized the results. PMA-related articles get almost 800,000 view per year!

See the stats!

Article Importance Class View last 90 days Views annualized Philadelphia Museum of Art Top B 22,790 91,160 The Concert Singer High B 783 3,132 Crucifixion Diptych (van der Weyden) High C 1,500 6,000 Perelman Building High C 986 3,944 The Gross Clinic High C 12,897 51,588 William Rush and His Model High C 1,038 4,152 Nude Descending a Staircase, No. 2 High Start 26,892 107,568 Rodin Museum High Start 5,323 21,292 Soft Construction with Boiled Beans (Premonition of Civil War) High Start 11,026 44,104 The Bride Stripped Bare By Her Bachelors, Even High Start 13,639 54,556 Wedding dress of Grace Kelly High Start 5,810 23,240 Étant donnés High Stub 7,464 29,856 Bird in Space High Unassessed 10,365 41,460 Diana (Saint-Gaudens) High Unassessed 1,450 5,800 Interior (Degas) High Unassessed 2,434 9,736 The Bathers (Cézanne) High Unassessed 7,166 28,664 Three Musicians High Unassessed 9,421 37,684 The Fairman Rogers Four-in-Hand Mid C 736 2,944 Anne d'Harnoncourt Mid Stub 1,266 5,064 Lansdowne House Mid Stub 3,763 15,052 Portrait of Leslie W. Miller Mid Unassessed 362 1,448 Yellow Odalisque Mid Unassessed 817 3,268 Rocky Steps Low Start 41,341 165,364 Samuel S. Fleisher Art Memorial Low Start 304 1,216 Total 189,573 758,292 views per quarter views per year

It's exciting to have a partner in Jessica Milby and there should be a lot of good work coming out the collaboration within the next 3-6 months. Please stop by the GLAM/PMA project page and leave your thoughts. What ideas do you have? How can we move forward on the above projects? I Hope you're all well. Cheers! Ocaasi 19:05, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

John Angel

Hi. I see you uploaded File:Angel at the Exeter War Memorial.jpg. I can crop it into a bio portrait if you like, although the family might not appreciate that, but as you seem to have access to more you might upload a finer portrait; the infobox is currently devoid of an image. Can you upload one?♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:30, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

De nada. I'll expand it probably tomorrow, the lead needs work. If you have some specific sources in google books or whatever with missing info please link them on the article talk page and alert me to them. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:43, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

What library do you run? Milburn has tagged the image I uploaded, such images are best uploaded to the commons with OTRS ticket. Can you arrange his with JMilburn?♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:12, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

I started Phallic architecture, dedicating the article to you of course who seemed to have problems "keeping it up" on wikipedia.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:39, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Feel free to add more thrust to the article and enlargen it.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:59, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Re:Perhaps you can help me

Hi there. I'm sorry, but these kinds of situations are a complete pain. What we need is explicit permission from the copyright holder (usually the original photographer) releasing the image under a free license. Without that, it can't really be used, and, unless it has previously been published, we couldn't even use it under a claim of non-free use. J Milburn (talk) 15:13, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

The copyright would be retained by the photographer for the rest of their life, and by his or her family for the next 70 years. Unless whoever gave it to you explicitly said so, they would not have granted you copyright (even if they said that you're free to do with it as you will- that's not the same as saying "you have copyright" or "this is in the public domain"). I appreciate how ridiculous this seems, but the decision has been made that Wikipedia should approach these questions in a very black-and-white way. J Milburn (talk) 15:41, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

I have attempted to re-establish contact with the family member who gave me the pictures and will try and get a better statement from him. I am hoping that after a decade or so his email address is still in play. Life. It is so rarely boring. Carptrash (talk) 18:08, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Trying to find them after they closed their Prodigy account might be tough. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:07, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

I just heard from Jon Angel, and everything is okay, I just need to get it formatted for wikipedia and perhaps Milburn will assist me on that. Carptrash (talk) 23:44, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

call

eek, let me know a good time to call you --Lockley (talk) 18:27, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

cool! I'll catch up with this w/e --Lockley (talk) 19:12, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for John Angel (sculptor)

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Ask Milburn, no idea.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:07, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

It was

And you're welcome. :) --Golbez (talk) 15:34, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Fixed!

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Spirit of the American Navy

Carptrash, okay please forgive me as I am not wiki savvy. I do not care to get extensive as far as posting. However, I can tell you that my father purchased what we believe is an original Visquesney Sailor in the mid to late 70's. he bought it from a collector in the Chicago area and we do not know it's original location but believe it was a Chicago area community. It has been supposed he may have been made at Chicago Bridge and Iron, as apparently, possibly, that was a local foundry for Visquesney. He came complete with 22 caliber bullet hole as like the doughboy's these pieces took alot of abuse while on public display. My folks visited Spencer Indiana where Visquesney operated, and spoke with (at the time) a retired newspaper owner who directed them to a small local museum of Visquesneys works. They also visited the rehabs of the Navy and Doughboy in Clearwater Florida. In any case our Navy Sailor is on public display inside the Brass Anchor, my families establishment in Pentwater Michigan. I certianly can vouch for his presence there the past few decades. As far as authentication that the Smithsonian or for that matter wikipedia would accept I cannot help with that. Appreciate your efforts on this subject regardless.Kolinger (talk) 23:37, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Spirit of Amerrican Navy

Hi Carptrash,

Thanks for your efforts, your starter page is at least a start! I believe I do have pictures but not the know how to post to wiki. I could of course email.. I am not located with the statue but do visit it periodically. The statue is annually moved for cleaning (around- the piece itself is only dusted of course) and next time that happens we will check the inside/underside for marks. It has a stamped plaque on the base, my father and I took a rubbing of that years ago because it is not particulary legible, so markings are nominal help. Not sure what happened to our rubbing but I can ask. My Dad is gone but Mom survives and is super sharp as of this writing. I have only seen photos of the Clearwater Florida Navy, but as I recall ours looks identical in the photos re size and color. My folks did visit that Navy as I stated earlier) The info posted with the Doughboy regarding locations of Navy are pretty much in keeping with what we were told.

Upon ruminating think I do have a column from the Oceana Times circa 1980 something.. The Brass Anchor was presented a plaque from the Pentwater Historical Society which mentions the shop contains the Visquesney Navy. Will see if I can dig that upKolinger (talk) 02:50, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

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RevDel performed and Oversight requested. I've removed the revision text for a lot of edits, since the IP signature was visible in them, as well as the editor's username for the edit performed by the IP. Not trying to be flippant — have you tried sticky traps? I've caught four mice with them in the last few months; once I get one stuck, it's a simple matter of taking it outside and dropping a concrete block on it. Nyttend (talk) 01:32, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Ran out? What do the mice do to them? My parents have been using the same few spring traps since I was little. Nyttend (talk) 01:46, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Each mouse gets to keep the trap that gets him/her. Sort of like a Viking funeral, but no boat. Or fire. Now the rat traps I do reuse. Carptrash (talk) 01:49, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Okay; didn't think of that, since I grew up knowing that the mouse would be dumped and the trap reused. Nyttend (talk) 01:57, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Sadly, we have a periodic problem with them. I set up a gauntlet of different kinds of trips, laid out in an overlapping array. Rather like a mine field. Usually works. I reuse the traps. We have been supplementing it with a warfarin based poison in the crawl space. Seems to be quite effective.. While I feel badly about dispatching the mice, the destruction that they cause to personal property (and the potential hanta virus, makes them "vermin" when they come indoors. So I would dispatch them accordingly. Many years ago, I used a "Hav-a-heart" trap to catch a large Norway rat that was in my garage. Once I caught him, the problem was how to dispose of him. I put him in the cage into a filled bathtub with predictable results. I was not going to 'catch and release' a Norway rat. OTOH, I have caught and released many possums, racoons, squirrels, birds and chipmunks. So that's my advice FWIW. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 02:00, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Never tried catch-and-release with anything (I've never caught anything except plants when angling, so can't count fish either); I really really don't like crushing a mouse with a concrete block, but it's the only way to keep it from coming back inside. Never had issues with larger animals, so I'm not quite sure how I'd deal with them. Nyttend (talk) 02:16, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

I have a "graveyard" outback with perhaps a hundred traps with 100 skeletons attached. it has evolved based on how far I can toss the trap from as far as i can wander outside with no shoes on. Probably I should consider re-using them, but my buddhist background makes the whole process marginal at best. I invented the term "assisted reincarnation" for the process and am considering a wikipedia article of the same name, though am not finding a lot of references. I did just add a reference to the Reincarnation article, a byproduct of this discussion. Carptrash (talk) 02:24, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Dr. Jack Kevorkian called it that, too. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 04:19, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

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So you mean...

...that there were three Wise Men and one Wise Guy?

Merry Christmas to you, too! Happy editing in 2013! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:12, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

I live in DC. I'm used to wise guys. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:31, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

No matter. We can send you a few - we've got plenty. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 18:41, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

The Christmas Season

...and a very happy one to you.--Wetman (talk) 17:59, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

ho ho ho indeed you betcha!

A very happy set of year-end holidays with druidic and pagan undertones to you and everyone in Carptrashia! --Lockley (talk) 19:39, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

hey mister, on your question, notability would be the only issue, but as a scholar I believe he belongs here. I'd be glad to lend my help posting it (my new articles are auto-reviewed) or just as moral support. Hope everybody's okay including you.--Lockley (talk) 05:32, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you ...

... for the Christmas greetings. I hope you had a lovely Christmas and have a great New Year's. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 03:27, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

File:Florek-wikipedia.jpg

Is this photo free? I don't believe that it is. You said that it came from a copyrighted program, so I wonder if this is your own work. If not, I'm afraid that the photo must be deleted. Thoughts? --George Ho (talk) 06:06, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

If that's the case, then {{PD-US-no notice}} IF made and published before 1978. If between 1978 and 1 March 1989 and not registered within five years after publication, then {{PD-US-1989}}. They must inform you the date of first or pre-1978 publication. --George Ho (talk) 23:03, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I want the source of where you retrieved the image. Also, I want prove that University was an author. Was it scanned or originated in the website? Even if created in 1970s, publication is different from creation. Unless the photo WAS proven to have been published first in the 1970s, I'm afraid that it may not qualify for Commons under commons:Commons:Project scope. Look at publicity images, like Three's Company. --George Ho (talk) 05:20, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Any luck yet? --George Ho (talk) 12:25, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

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Hi,

I understand your perspective on this user's recent edits, and agree. However, I think your response on their talk page might have verged a bit into biting the newbies territory. You're clearly a more experienced editor than I am, so I could perhaps be misinterpreting, and I am certainly skeptical of this user's future contributions given their edits so far. I'd be happy to discuss this further too, perhaps there is something i'm missing. -- UseTheCommandLine (talk) 19:33, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

To be fair, the substance of your criticisms I do agree with. I work very hard at maximizing the assumption of good faith, with the full knowledge that that will get abused by a few. At the same time, I don't see how WP can function otherwise. little details like the assumption of a gender -- i think they matter, despite the fact that this user said something that is almost invariably spoken by males. if we make that assumption we are complicit in normalizing those stereotypes. -- UseTheCommandLine (talk) 20:49, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Male privilege

Hi Carptrash
Hope you don't mind, I've just made a bunch of formatting changes to a talkpage edit of yours, to make it clearer to readers what 'you' were saying, and what you were 'quoting.' Another editor (usethecommandline) seems to have already misread your quote as your opinion, so I took this unusual step to make it clearer. I think your edit was entirely appropriate and hope the discussion doesn't degenerate. WotherspoonSmith (talk) 13:08, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Cory Edwards image

Hi. Thanks for pointing that out. How might I be able to determine who holds copyright on the image? The website [8] has a copyright tag at the bottom, so would that mean that he holds the copyright on all images contained on the site? If he doesn't own the copyright on the image, is there another way that I might be able to find an image of him that could be used on Wikipedia? --Jpcase (talk) 01:17, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

George Keller (architect)

... then you will certainly be led astray.
Happy New Year, Einar.
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Carl Conrads

"... best known as one of the sculptors for the National Monument to the Forefathers." — not my words.
Check out the new (old) photo I stumbled across. It implies Conrads was punctual with completing his commissions. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 01:23, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

While David Ransom states that George Keller's winning design in the 1874 competition for a Taunton, Massachusetts soldiers' monument was "never executed,"[9] I did find this 1902 Taunton monument with a statue by Conrads.[10] I wonder if this is Keller's design or that of another architect? BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 15:03, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Just some very deep dives into Google.

I came across references to a Minute Man statue at Lexington and a Nathan Hale statue at the Connecticut Capitol. Since the Lexington statue was done by Henry Hudson Kitson and the CT Capitol statue was done by Karl Gerhardt, I wonder if these were Conrads works that didn't win competitions, or were abandoned for some other reason.

David Ransom teases, dropping that there are 6 Conrads works in Cedar Hill Cemetery, but not identifying any of them. My hope is that the angel entering the Howard Pyramid is one of them.

And I wish someone would post a public-domain photo of the Samuel J. Tilden Memorial.

'Night. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 05:25, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

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Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL He may be notable enough for an article. He isn't the one that did the lions on the bridge though. I think I came across him in a review of Imredy's wife's book. I am still trying to find the other name.--Canoe1967 (talk) 19:46, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Seems Charles Marega does have an article, that is the man I was thinking of. I should see if Peggy Imredy's book in in our library system. It is linked to many libraries in Canada and I can have it brought to my local branch if I can remember my online password.--Canoe1967 (talk) 20:00, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

wayback machine is a dead link in the article. It has more detail to expand the article.--Canoe1967 (talk) 21:00, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

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well hallo Carptrash. What are you working on lately? Any good arguments I can jump into the middle of? --Lockley (talk) 19:07, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

that's an excellent cause. To take it seriously for a moment, just a moment, maybe an indignant & rabble-rousing screed on the topic is called for ("Did you know you're not even allowed to take pictures in public, woof woof woof, this is an outrage, founding fathers, big brother, big government, Ruby Ridge, etc.") and then a White House petition, maybe that's a better idea. A million dollars for a lobbyist doesn't get you much, I hear. Only one with a high piping voice who smells like garlic. --Lockley (talk) 19:31, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

you're aware of this page, yes? --Lockley (talk) 20:04, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Far better than a barnstar which I have only recieved two of so far. I wonder if you have time to read this and see what material we can expand his article with. I am a little busy with other things and I suck a paraphrasing. I got it from the helpful volunteers at WP:RX.--Canoe1967 (talk) 19:14, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

long overdue

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I have seen one or both images on us.gov sites so they can probably be uploaded to commons as PD-Gov-US license.--Canoe1967 (talk) 18:10, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

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Sculptors

Thanks very much for the thumb - I've got a couple of my own, so another isn't necessary. :-)

If it helps: I haven't checked on Pillars yet, but Triebel is unrepresented in the National Portrait Gallery, the SAAM, or the National Gallery; I checked all three databases. Seems like his Statuary Hall work is about all that exists here in DC. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 21:16, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

True. Even so, you'd be surprised at what, exactly, ends up in the Smithsonian. Such as William Randolph Barbee - never heard of him until I stumbled across his Fisher Girl at SAAM. Surprising work - quite lovely. Alas, there appears to be scant trace of him in his hometown, though there is a historical marker which I've passed umpteen times without paying attention to it. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 21:57, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Not just - ever run into a copy of Randolph Rogers' Nidia, the Slave Girl of Pompeii? There's a copy of that at SAAM, too. Drinking out of the same well.

Barbee is particularly interesting to me because of his background. Why did he become a sculptor? He started off as a lawyer, and I can't think of any artistic life in the Shenandoah Valley that might have driven him to change. He's an anomaly in the annals of nineteenth-century Virginia; we haven't produced many artists. I really wish there was more on record about his background. I wrote the Page County Historical Society for information over a year ago, but never heard back from 'em.

Incidentally, the bust at Thornton Gap was removed, I'm told; the historian at Shenandoah National Park responded as much to a query I sent her a while ago. There's a book with a picture available, but not at Google Books. One of these days I have to get down to the library to look into it. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 00:02, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

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Well, it is very simple: I am participating in the February 2013 Wikification Backlog Elimination Drive, and by pure chance I came across the article about Louis Satterfield. I've had to spend a couple of days on it, but as a start article, it is not too bad, right now. I hope that someone more informed than me about "Lui Lui" will continue the work that started from you.
I'm so happy, thank you… and HaPpY eDiTiNg! –pjoef (talk • contribs) 17:33, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Once again, thank you. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 17:48, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

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Here is an email that I received from the sculptor of this piece. I hate to hound her for more, is this enough? Should I include her email so that you can verify this?

"Dear Einar,

I would like to see them stay and I know of no prohibition of my work remaining on these sites.  But I could check with GSA and find out for certain. Since this project was paid for with tax payer money it seems only fair but there may be other considerations I am unaware of. This was all in my contract I am sure but I no longer remember. Let me know if you wish me to pursue this.

My best,

Diana"

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Thank you for the message about my edit to the page Audrey Munson. I would firstly like to say, that while I may need "emotional work" in some areas of my life, my edit to this page was entirely unemotional. I actually agree with you that the preferred term should be "actor", regardless of gender. I was not very pleased when whoever decided that we needed to begin recategorization on the basis of gender. I am the person who initially created the category "Silent film actors" and contributed in creating a large number of biographies of actors of the silent film era and had always categorized them as "Silent film actors". However, over the course of the last month or so, I began seeing my watchlist being inundated with changes from other users and bots to silent film actor biographies I created from "actor" to "actress". This trend has also happened with the categories "Stage actors", "Film actors", "19-Century actors" and "20th-Century actors", amongst others. As I have said, I also do not feel the need for actors to be divided into further categories by gender. The scale of the changes, by so many users left me feeling as though I had little recourse but to simply "give in", lest a few biographies of female actors be hidden away amongst the category of "X-nationality silent film actors" (that is now largely populated by male actors) and not easily found by users searching the the now larger category of "X-nationality silent film actresses" that someone else has created.

I am pleased to tell you that your good streak of being right has not been broken, as we are in agreement. If there is a discussion or a vote to change the categorizations back to simply "actor", I will indeed vote for the non-gender specific title. As it is now, I have begrudgingly recategorized all of my silent film actor biographies and many others on the basis of gender. ExRat (talk) 03:15, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

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• OK, this is now going further, as I have just noticed on my watch list that the category "Western (genre) film actors" has been segregated by gender as well and there is now a new category of "Western (genre) film actresses". ExRat (talk) 03:23, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

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I suspect (though I may well be wrong) that it was a photo you took and uploaded here which was deleted and now someone is asking for this to be reviewed. Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2013 February 21. However, I can't look at the image or its description in case unspeakably appalling things happen. This must all be very dispiriting. Best wishes. Thincat (talk) 11:36, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

For the question you put on my talk page, I have replied there. Thincat (talk) 19:35, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

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