User talk:Space4Time3Continuum2x

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Telegraph

Is it my imagination, or is Macon edit warring to include the tabloid reference, violating ARBAP2 and 1RR? SPECIFICO talk 14:56, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

@SPECIFICO: -- In a manner of speaking he did. But the reliable sources noticeboard has proved him correct on this one.Steve Quinn (talk) 19:16, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

@SPECIFICO: He's put it back in three times now within a period of 24 hours 42 minutes, after it was removed by three different editors. For now, I've edited my "analysis" of Mr. Allen's piece of manure a little and added it to the discussion Herostratus started on the Reliable sources/Noticeboard. I'll see what happens; I can't believe that the other editors have read the same article. I suspect/hope they've been discussing The Telegraph in general terms. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 19:30, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

@Steve Quinn: Your post here arrived while I was busy on the noticeboard thing. Please, read my comments there. I still think the question shouldn't have been whether the Telegraph is a reliable source, but whether the article/author is. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 19:30, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

@Space4Time3Continuum2x: Thanks. I will go over to the RSN ---Steve Quinn (talk) 19:39, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

I've commented on Arbcom Enforcement and RSN. The anti-Hillary comrades are experienced and devoted wikilawyers and with the Admins unwilling to cut to the core of their behavior, they will easily succeed in keeping all kinds of nonsense on WP until election day. SPECIFICO talk 21:01, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Restrictions

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Though it is interesting sourced info, suggest you self-revert this edit here, and instead bring to talk page to discuss. Sagecandor (talk) 08:43, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

@Sagecandor: I moved it to the "Commentary and Reactions - Former CIA Officers Section" before I saw your post. I'll remove it and take it to the Talk section. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 09:04, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Was this an accidental mistake edit ? Sagecandor (talk) 07:39, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

@Sagecandor: I have no idea what happened there. Most of that doesn't look like my edit. I tried to move your suggestion to the Talk page behind BobK's answer and then just added "done". Maybe something got mixed up with another editor saving something at the same time? Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 07:44, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Okay no problem. Sagecandor (talk) 07:45, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for removing. Still don't know what happened. I did post another text around the time (I just put it in the Craig Murray section); don't see how I could have accidentally deleted an unconnected bunch of other editor's posts, but I guess I did unless Wikipedia has added pixies as editing feature. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 08:27, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Seth Rich ?

Hello. Did you intend to be launching a formal RfC at Seth Rich talk? If so, I believe that you need to state a simple clear proposition, such as should your edit replace the previous text. I'm not sure whether this is needed, especially since no editor has yet disagreed with your edit, which seems to have obvious merit. Also if you wish this to be an RfC, there should be a separate "threaded discussion" section beneath the yes/no section of the RfC. SPECIFICO talk 15:28, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

@SPECIFICO:No, just making a good-faith edit, removing errors, i.e., reward amounts, and adding half-sentence on verifiability of WL offer, according to source. I believe the RfC on whether to mention Burkman or not hasn't been closed, so I didn't mention him by name. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 15:36, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi the reason I ask is that the RfC template appears to have been placed above your recent message there. If that wasn't what you intended, perhaps it shouldn't have appeared. I'm not sure what makes that template show on a talk page. Just my observation. Up to you. Thanks. SPECIFICO talk 15:44, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

@SPECIFICO: Thanks. Learning by doing, AKA copying and pasting:). Removed the template, didn't quite manage to correct the "reference in a box". Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 16:03, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

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SPECIFICO talk 18:10, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

@SPECIFICO: Mea culpa. Thanks, added it now. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 14:57, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

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My apologies

For the edit summary here. I realized that it was simple mistake, but that simple mistake completely flipped the meaning of the sentence.Volunteer Marek (talk) 20:13, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Apology accepted, but it wasn’t really necessary; I jumbled the sentence. I was surprised, is all, to be mistaken for someone who would misrepresent sources to whitewash the actions of a Trump minion. That was a first! Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 13:16, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

American Civil War interest

Hey,

reacting to your comment on Talk:German Americans in the American Civil War. You know that there is an American Civil War taskforce on the Military History project, right? Also, if you´re interested in learning and discussing about the civil war with likeminded people outside of wiki I can only recommend to take a look or join us at Civil War Talk. Regards ...GELongstreet (talk) 17:18, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

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Klanbake

Your redirect of Klanbake to the internet meme article was inappropriate because that page does not mention the term. I've redirected it to the specific section about the meme in the Democratic convention article, so readers will go straight to the debunking of the term instead of having to hunt around for it. I agree the plain redirect to the convention page was wrong. Fences&Windows 13:19, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

@Fences and windows: Thanks. I just wanted to get rid of that redirect fast and couldn't think of anything better to do short of deleting the redirect altogether and copying the paragraph from the convention article which would also have been inappropriate. Is this what you did: #REDIRECT 1924 Democratic National Convention#"Klanbake" meme (for future reference)? Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 17:42, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes, that's it. That's a new section created after the Washington Post article. Fences&Windows 17:54, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

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• Fixed it. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 06:52, 24 March 2018 (UTC) My bad - didn't look up the four Kevin Nicholsons who have Wikipedia articles. None of them is the one currently running in the Wiscon Republican primary. I removed the link. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 06:59, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Paul Erickson

Since you edited Paul Erickson a bit, perhaps you'd be willing to weigh in on the pending disputes at Talk:Paul Erickson? We could use your input. Thanks in advance. (I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.) --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 17:28, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

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Fixed it. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 03:40, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

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Just leaving a note as you edit in the area, and the last alert you received was in 2016. TonyBallioni (talk) 14:45, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Editing restrictions

You just restored a challenged edit here here. Specifically the removal of this "Trump's racially insensitive statements[270] have been condemned by many observers in the U.S. and around the world,". You also didn't leave an edit summary. I request that you restore this material until there is consensus to remove it, per the page editing restrictions.- MrX 🖋 14:47, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

MrX I was actually partially undoing JFG's edit (and improving the structure while I was at it). Didn't notice that you had challenged his changes between the time I started writing and saved. I self-reverted. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 14:58, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

No problem. I though it may have been an edit conflict. I had no problem with the rest of your edit and I'm happy to explain why I restored the portion quoted above. Thanks for self reverting.- MrX 🖋 15:10, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

For my information, was this a case of a "copy edit" in which the meaning of the article text was changed without acknowledging this in the edit summary? I see a lot of this kind of editing and it's very confusing and results in lots of new article text insinuated in ways that are difficult to parse and difficult for editors to discuss and adjust after they're discovered. Did that happen in this case? SPECIFICO talk 15:11, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

I think Space4Time3Continuum2x was also challenging JFG's edit, but in a slightly different way. I'm guessing they started editing before I completed my edit which made it look like my edit was reverted.- MrX 🖋 15:21, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

I was trying to restore the former content by combining two sentences and reinserting the deleted reference and simultaneously restructuring slightly, move Trump closer to his supporters, so to speak. And trying to keep track of everything in Wikipedia editor. Bad idea. Sorry about the confusion. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 15:30, 27 May 2018 (UTC) And then I simply forgot the edit summary. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 15:32, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

My concern is that this kind of confusion or duplication of efforts, or actually one might say completely unnecessary repair job, is dues to insinuation of POV language under the guise of copy edits or minor edits that are routinely overlooked by experienced editors and tend to proliferate if not vigilantly checked and repaired. I think @Galobtter: just corrected another similar one in the lead section. SPECIFICO talk 15:54, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Well, in my case it was due to suspecting insinuation of POV language, not wanting to get into another lengthy argument, prolonged wrangling of Wiki text, forgetting the edit summary (I haven't found a way to add or correct it after hitting "send"), and forgetting to check whether other editors had made edits in the meantime. Keeping the faith! The POV will be weeded out eventually, the sockpuppets unmasked, and we'll all live happily ever after or until the next time, whichever comes first. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 16:59, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Just to be clear, I was not saying that you cloaked your change of meaning. I was trying to avoid naming any other editor since I didn't know the full sequence of edits. I've raised a similar concern recently on the Trump article talk page. SPECIFICO talk 17:13, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Nah, I got that:) I didn't want to name any names either. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 17:19, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Rodman

Hello. You have violated the 1RR restriction with these two reverts.
Further, you violated the requirement for talk page consensus for challenged edits with this revert. The image has been in the article for months and its removal was challenged, therefore talk page consensus is required to remove it.
As I see it you need to do two self-reverts. ―Mandruss ☎ 16:51, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

@Mandruss: Rodman - When and where was the removal of the picture challenged? There was a brief discussion before the removal, ending with So remove the image of Rodman. As for leader of the free world, seems odd for a president who's motto is "America First". O3000 (talk) 21:41, 14 June 2018 (UTC), the picture was removed, and two days later an editor reinserted it. Shouldn't that editor have discussed the reinsertion? As for the other two, I didn't regard changing the size of an image as a revert. I'll revert that for now and wait for your response on Rodman. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 17:31, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

I wasn't aware of O3000's comment, but one comment does not constitute a consensus. For the purposes of the ArbCom restrictions, that comment and the other editor's failure to discuss can be ignored (the other editor also was very likely unaware of the comment).
As for the image size, a reversal of any fairly recent edit is a revert as I understand the term—it certainly is not limited to prose or matters that people might deem "substantive". Experience tells us it would be a very bad idea to start blurring that line, as the cost would exceed the benefit as editors tailored their definitions of "substantive" to suit their immediate objectives. That revert was clearer than many, since it wasn't a "partial" or "sort of" reversal—it reversed all of the edit and did nothing more—and the time interval was well outside the gray area. ―Mandruss ☎ 18:03, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

@Mandruss: I have self-reverted the removal of the Rodman picture but you haven't answered my question about when and where its original removal was challenged. I still think the original removal was the challenge, and B dash was in violation of 1RR when he/she reverted it without discussion. The challenged removal of long-standing content had nothing to do with the picture, it was about text. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 19:25, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

I still think the original removal was the challenge - I think you're confusing content with edit. The ArbCom restriction is about challenged edits, not challenged content. Once content has been in the article for a certain amount of time (admin NeilN has suggested 4–6 weeks, IIRC, and that image has been in the article for longer than that), its removal is not a challenge-by-reversion but simply a BOLD edit.
I'm starting the discussion to seek consensus to remove; please participate there. ―Mandruss ☎ 19:42, 17 June 2018 (UTC)