User talk:CvyvvZkmSUDowVf

SemEval

This is exactly the sort of thing we could solve with a speedy userfication process; this article really isn't ready to be an article, but might just make it into something useful, whether its own article or part of the larger one (I'm leaning towards the latter). I know nothing about it's notability or lack thereof, but this is a poster child for speedy userfication. And I think people seriously need to relax about biting newbies; for fuck's sake, I was just saying that it looked like an advertisement, which is undeniable. Not to mention that the user in question seemed to take the attitude I would have when I was new; he's trying to deal with the problem instead of running away. You think it'd be worth it to raise the subject of speedy userfication again, or would that just lead to cries of WP:STICK? The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:56, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Speedy userfication should be an option. Let's bring it up. — Timneu22 · talk 11:02, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Should we broach the subject at WT:CSD or the Village pump (no preference either way, just not sure where to start)? The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 20:25, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

I'd say WP:VPP, but notify the WT:CSD people. Sorry for the delayed reply. Busy today. — Timneu22 · talk 00:18, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

OK, I'll probably do it tomorrow sometime. By the way, if you want to see what the How to Eat a Scorpion While it is Mating page looked like, go to User:Access Denied/Adoption/CSD Examples, it's number 20. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 04:01, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Posted at WP:Village pump (proposals)#Speedy userfication. It's a bit long, but I wanted to get it all out so I wouldn't have to answer a thousand questions about how it would be useful. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:01, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Also, on a totally unrelated topic; because you do NPP a lot, a little heads up. If you see a new user, especially one with initials TC (i.e. User:TerraCognita, User:Tiraios-of-Characene), creating shitloads of unreferenced, one-sentence sub-stubs on geographic locations (especially Portuguese and Latin American towns/rivers), that user is likely a sockpuppet of this guy. If you check the contributions and they look like a recently activated sleeper sock, and especially if they've done tons of weird page moves (e.g. Lake Such-and-such being moved to Such-and-such Lake), it's a duck sock, and you should immediately ping an admin. It's really easy to see this guy; he lights up NPP like a fucking Christmas tree. Figured I'd let you know; we may have a lot of G5 tags in our near future. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 04:08, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Longevity COI

A discussion about longevity WP:COI has been initiated at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject World's Oldest People#End COI. As a recent contributor to this page, your comments are solicited. JJB 20:16, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

November 12

Wow, I'm speedying things left and right. Was there a coordinated effort for people to create nonsense today? — Timneu22 · talk 16:19, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Jokainen tavallaan

I have removed your speedy deletion tag here; note that it is for bands or musicians, not albums. Regards, Ironholds (talk) 16:26, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

A9 would also be inappropriate. WP:MUSIC provides that full albums are, prima facie, notable, if by a notable musician (and CSD is only really for clearcut cases). I'd advise waiting for the artist article to be deleted and then tagging it for A9. Ironholds (talk) 16:39, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

The band itself is A7, so once that's deleted this is A9. And it will be deleted. — Timneu22 · talk 16:40, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Foreign-language contributors

There is a useful set of templates, many of them bilingual, for people who contribute in foreign languages - e.g. {{contrib-ru1}}. They are listed at WP:PNT/T. If you're not sure of the language, Google Translate does a pretty good job of identifying them, given a sentence or two to check. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 17:22, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I've had to use my own for some time because I never could find WP:PNT/T. I looked for it and gave up long ago. Thanks again! — Timneu22 · talk 18:08, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Puhuva Kone

Hi! If you're not following my discussionpage anymore, I have some questions about that speedy deletion there ;)-Henswick (talk) 18:48, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

And an AfD right back at you

See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Russian supercentenarians. It's a few people trying to maintain their walled garden, and this AfD BADLY needs uninvolved voices. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 14:45, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Hey about SkillSlate

While we disagree about this particular article, perhaps we'll cooperate in other spheres or articles? I'm considering revamps of Dating and Behavioral economics -- both articles have fairly high traffic but are in rather dire need of fixes. In a week or so I may be asking your help and guidance if perhaps you might be interested in either? And whether SkillSlate gets deleted or stays, please know that I appreciate your contributions here regardless of what happens. It's all part of the process.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 17:01, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm really just a NPP guy. I don't have time, generally, to help in these types of projects. Sorry. — Timneu22 · talk 17:44, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Okay but if you change your mind there's a lot of fun in creating stuff too. Check out Zoya Phan -- the Blade of the NL did a great job with this. I am thinking about writing a knol or advice-piece about split-screening article researching. NPP is valuable too -- you guys generally do great job of screening out the junk, even though we might sometimes disagree about what the junk is!--Tomwsulcer (talk) 17:53, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion

I believe that was on my user page, no? In any case, actually, I just translated the page, because I saw it was linked to one of my pages on English wiki, and I wanted to see what it said, because it clearly wasn't a translation of the English page. Yes, actually I agree that the page on Russian wiki is quite hilarious ("Turkish, US-CIA, etc. conspiracy to unite Circassia"... whut?), so I saved it to my user pages for future reference, and for a laugh. Is that not okay?--Yalens (talk) 18:52, 18 November 2010 (UTC) (I thought it was okay because it was, you know, under my semi-private user pages... which aren't even supposed to be public)

The article was not in the userspace. If it had been it would have been titled User:Yalens/something. — Timneu22 · talk 19:07, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Was it not titled "User:Yalens/lol"? If it wasn't, I might have made a mistake... I think I originally was going to make the page on RuWiki, but decided to do it on EnWiki... I think that's the reason for the name. In any case, would it violate anything for me to use that on my own userpages, notwithstanding that mistake? --Yalens (talk) 01:04, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

As your talk page clearly states, the page was named Участник:Yalens/lol. — Timneu22 · talk 11:27, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I understand that. It was my mistake. I'm not protesting its deletion. I'm just asking if I'm still allowed to make my own userpage of it (which I have actually now), or if there's still a problem with that...? --Yalens (talk) 16:11, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Sorry. Yeah I imagine it's okay to work on whatever you want in your userspace. (As long as it's not a G10, G11, or G12 violation.) — Timneu22 · talk 16:21, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

ArbCom

Your comments are solicited at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Longevity/Workshop#Accept stipulations. JJB 20:01, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Non-Roman Re-directs and DABs

Due to your participation in a discussion on foreign language re-directs on the same talk page in late July 2010, you may be interested in joining the discussion on the usage of non-Roman languages in re-directs and DABs. Your input will be appreciated. --HXL's Roundtable, and Record 23:24, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Regarding CSD of The People's Key

I don't do much with Bands, but as I read Wikipedia:CSD#A9, it requires that the artist's page not exist. Bright_Eyes_(band) exists, do you think I am misreading the criteria?

I think that article has problems, but I don't see the application of A9.--SPhilbrickT 18:49, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Right. I guess I didn't realize the band page DID exist. I AfD'd the page. — Timneu22 · talk 19:00, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Hey! My name's Elyse Johnson and I wrote "The People's Key" article this afternoon. I just need a little help. I am refering to an album by Bright_Eyes_(band) with this article and I have trouble in general with html coding stuff I just don't understand it so well, so don't delete it just give me a hand! This article offers relevant information :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elysejohnson1 (talk • contribs) 19:29, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Apriva

It feels like you are going above and beyond to try and kill a page I spent a great deal of time creating. What can I do to ensure my effort isn't lost by your suggestion to delete the page? Bfeddern (talk) 00:45, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

When have I gone above or beyond to do anything? I've nominated that page, and someone else nominated the others. That's it. — Timneu22 · talk 00:53, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

You also made it a point to commend someone ("Bravo") for their comments on the person's discussion page. That was a bit beyond, IMO. I'm just trying to help the cause. I have made several edits to the document, based on every comment made and will continue to strive for improvement in my posting efforts as I never want to be labeled a spammer again. I have a whole list of things I would like to add into Wikipedia, and want to ensure that I am able to continue editing and adding. Any constructive suggestions are welcomed and appreciated. Bfeddern (talk) 01:09, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Your recent CSD tag

Hi, I noticed that you recently tagged Gig (musical or theatrical performance) for speedy deletion as patent nonsense. However, that article does not fall under the definition of patent nonsense. Patent nonsense is basically what you would get if you let a monkey hammer on the keyboard (e.g. "dfgjkSFsgfsl 4d5sjfAAAkgs354hdkjfg 3ydQjfkCDgslFksl"). A gig is the term used to refer to a band's performance. Good luck! Reaper Eternal (talk) 14:06, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

I know what a gig is. I know what patent nonsense is. This is patent nonsense:

         I caught one of the Rolling Stones' first gigs in Richmond.
         Hey, when are we gonna get that hotel gig again?
         Our guitar player had another gig so we had to get a sub.

— Timneu22 · talk 14:19, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Tim -- I notice that you get dinged on "patent nonsense" CSDs a lot. You really need to understand that criteria: patent nonsense is actual gibberish -- a string of characters or words that cannot be made into a sensible English sentence. The article you tagged was poor, to be sure, but it was not patent nonsense. All of the sentences actually make sense in English. Clearly, the editor was trying to a) define the word gig and b) use it in several sentences to give the meaning context. While this is not an appropriate use of Wikipedia, it is not patent nonsense. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:24, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Some admins delete these. And they should be. This is patent nonsense, even though all the sentences make sense:

  That tree has green leaves.
  Leaves are messy, we should vacuum them up.
  Yes, perhaps a Hoover Dam vacuum is the best sucker.

— Timneu22 · talk 14:31, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I'd have to agree with you on this one; if you read WP:NONSENSE, it actually says that, even if the text contains actual words, if it so confused to the point that no one can make any sense of it then it's patent nonsense. A lot of people seem to forget that second definition (having once read some word salad a schizophrenic wrote, I can't say I ever will). So to WikiDan61 and ReaperEternal, he's actually right; I'd have done the exact same thing. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 16:44, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure that I agree that this particular example falls under the realm of WP:NONSENSE, even considering the second definition. The content that was tagged was not so confused that a reasonable person could not make sense of it. It was a definition, followed by three example sentences. All of the sentences made perfect sense, and were proper uses of the defined word. The example that Timneu gave in response is, in fact, nonsense, since the words do not form sensical sentences, but the text under discussion was not nonsense. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 16:54, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

I can find no circumstance where Our guitar player had another gig so we had to get a sub. is not nonsense. — Timneu22 · talk 17:16, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Let me explain the meaning of this sentence to you then:

Our <The speaker is part of a group>

guitar player <one of the members of said group plays the guitar>

had another gig <a use of the defined word in context, meaning the player had another job>

so <introducing a clause that is a consequence of the prior clause>

we <the aforementioned group>

had to get <were required to retain the services of>

a sub <an abbreviation for substitute, a player to perform in place of the player who could not appear>

I don't understand why this sentence would not make sense to any speaker of the English language. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 18:46, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

If you're trying to be condescending, congrats. Now explain how that sentence is not nonsense in the context of an encyclopedic article. — Timneu22 · talk 19:10, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

No, I'm not trying to be condescending. I'm trying to point out the difference between nonsense (a string of words that has no meaning) and inappropriate content (a dictionary definition). While this article clearly has no place in an encyclopedia, the content was not nonsense under any understanding of the word. It may be splitting hairs, but many admins will simply deny a speedy deletion tag because the reason given was incorrect. An article such as this one does not fall under any of the existing speedy deletion criteria, so it must either be prod'ed or brought to AFD. (For the record, I have {{prod}}'ed it.) WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 19:45, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

But you seem to be ignoring the second part of WP:NONSENSE. — Timneu22 · talk 19:55, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Item 2 of WP:NONSENSE reads:

Content that, while apparently intended to mean something, is so confused that no reasonable person can be expected to make any sense of it. If the meaning cannot be identified, it is impossible to accurately copy-edit the text.

I consider myself a reasonable person, and I have no trouble making sense of the sentence in question. If you cannot make sense of the sentence in question, explain to me why you can't. (I sense that you can make sense of it, which is why you thought my parsing of the sentence above was condescending.) If you simply feel that the sentence has no place in an encyclopedia, find a valid reason for saying so, rather than applying invalid criteria. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:15, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

I've already made my point above. Those three sentences are nonsense. I have nothing left to say and I have no more energy to invest in this discussion. — Timneu22 · talk 20:19, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Related... is this article just WP:DICT that should be brought to AfD? — Timneu22 · talk 17:17, 8 December 2010 (UTC)