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→‎A thought on PRODs.: Well if you do it speedily, yes. However, if you put {{tl|merge to}} and {{tl|merge from}} templates on the respective articles, and open a talk page discussion proposing the merge (with more or less the same rationale as you would put into a deletion discussion), then wait a week or so, you can then accurately say that you made the proposal and no one contested it.
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:I'm always gunshy on redirects because I've had way too many instances of people reverting them literally less than two seconds after I make them. <span style="color:green">'''Ten Pound Hammer'''</span> • <sup>([[User talk:TenPoundHammer|What did I screw up now?]])</sup> 22:10, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
:I'm always gunshy on redirects because I've had way too many instances of people reverting them literally less than two seconds after I make them. <span style="color:green">'''Ten Pound Hammer'''</span> • <sup>([[User talk:TenPoundHammer|What did I screw up now?]])</sup> 22:10, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
:: Well if you do it speedily, yes. However, if you put {{tl|merge to}} and {{tl|merge from}} templates on the respective articles, and open a talk page discussion proposing the merge (with more or less the same rationale as you would put into a deletion discussion), then wait a week or so, you can then accurately say that you made the proposal and no one contested it. I generally frame merge proposals for things like this along the lines of a merge ''until additional content develops'' to justify breaking out again, which I think is a particurly strong position to take, since it's not absolute. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 22:17, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
:: Well if you do it speedily, yes. However, if you put {{tl|merge to}} and {{tl|merge from}} templates on the respective articles, and open a talk page discussion proposing the merge (with more or less the same rationale as you would put into a deletion discussion), then wait a week or so, you can then accurately say that you made the proposal and no one contested it. I generally frame merge proposals for things like this along the lines of a merge ''until additional content develops'' to justify breaking out again, which I think is a particurly strong position to take, since it's not absolute. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 22:17, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

== Too many proposed deletions and AfD nominations. Canvassing. ==

Hi TenPoundHammer. According to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/TenPoundHammer&offset=20220512043519&limit=5000&target=TenPoundHammer this contributions link], between 12 May 2022 and 30 May 2022, you nominated 637 articles for proposed deletion (based on a search of "Notification: proposed deletion"). In the same time period, you created 183 articles for deletion discussions (based on a search of "Creating deletion discussion page"). This is at too fast of a rate. You are averaging 35 proposed deletions a day and 10 AfD nominations a day. I am unable to keep up with finding sources for the deletion discussions listed at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Television]]. I have had several articles I have wanted to write but have not written. I have instead spent a significant portion of my time participating in the large number of television AfD discussions to find sources so that articles about notable television series are not deleted.

I have concerns about the quality and accuracy of the AfD arguments based on my comment [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Inspiration, Please!|here]] and {{user|Artw}}'s comments [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Like We Care|here]] and [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Playbook (TV series)|here]]. Please significantly slow down the number of nominations you are making. I think seven seven proposed deletions per week and seven AfD nominations per week would be more reasonable numbers. Would you be willing to reduce the number of deletion nominations to what I have suggested?

I have concerns about canvassing. In [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Lists_of_people&oldid=1090637920 a large of AfD nominations for "List of people on the postage stamps"] such as [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people on the postage stamps of Jordan]], you pinged two editors who had previously supported deletion of "List of people on the postage stamps" articles but who had had no prior involvement in the "List of people on the postage stamps of Jordan" article. You did not ping or notify {{user|DGG}}, who had removed the proposed deletion you had added. You did not ping the editors from [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people on the postage stamps of the Faroe Islands|this AfD]] who had worked on improving the "List of people on the postage stamps of the Faroe Islands" article. [[User:Cunard|Cunard]] ([[User talk:Cunard|talk]]) 23:35, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Revision as of 23:35, 30 May 2022

A thought on PRODs.

I'm not here to tell you how to go about your business, but I think a lot of these one-shot shows built around a reasonably notable host/star could more easily be merged/redirected to the article on that person. I am specifically thinking here about Elvira's Halloween Special (which I have proposed to redirect to Cassandra Peterson#Filmography), and Capitol Gains (which I have proposed to merge to Peter Barnes (journalist)). PROD and AFD can invite an almost instinctive opposition based on the sheer desire to keep things in the encyclopedia. Merge proposals, and perhaps even redirect proposals, I think, do not, since they are more about moving content around than about eliminating it. BD2412 T 22:09, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm always gunshy on redirects because I've had way too many instances of people reverting them literally less than two seconds after I make them. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 22:10, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well if you do it speedily, yes. However, if you put {{merge to}} and {{merge from}} templates on the respective articles, and open a talk page discussion proposing the merge (with more or less the same rationale as you would put into a deletion discussion), then wait a week or so, you can then accurately say that you made the proposal and no one contested it. I generally frame merge proposals for things like this along the lines of a merge until additional content develops to justify breaking out again, which I think is a particurly strong position to take, since it's not absolute. BD2412 T 22:17, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Too many proposed deletions and AfD nominations. Canvassing.

Hi TenPoundHammer. According to this contributions link, between 12 May 2022 and 30 May 2022, you nominated 637 articles for proposed deletion (based on a search of "Notification: proposed deletion"). In the same time period, you created 183 articles for deletion discussions (based on a search of "Creating deletion discussion page"). This is at too fast of a rate. You are averaging 35 proposed deletions a day and 10 AfD nominations a day. I am unable to keep up with finding sources for the deletion discussions listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Television. I have had several articles I have wanted to write but have not written. I have instead spent a significant portion of my time participating in the large number of television AfD discussions to find sources so that articles about notable television series are not deleted.

I have concerns about the quality and accuracy of the AfD arguments based on my comment here and Artw (talk · contribs)'s comments here and here. Please significantly slow down the number of nominations you are making. I think seven seven proposed deletions per week and seven AfD nominations per week would be more reasonable numbers. Would you be willing to reduce the number of deletion nominations to what I have suggested?

I have concerns about canvassing. In a large of AfD nominations for "List of people on the postage stamps" such as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people on the postage stamps of Jordan, you pinged two editors who had previously supported deletion of "List of people on the postage stamps" articles but who had had no prior involvement in the "List of people on the postage stamps of Jordan" article. You did not ping or notify DGG (talk · contribs), who had removed the proposed deletion you had added. You did not ping the editors from this AfD who had worked on improving the "List of people on the postage stamps of the Faroe Islands" article. Cunard (talk) 23:35, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]