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== Hawaiian eagle == |
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Good work on the Holocene extinctions by regions articles. I have just one small concern. |
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On 16 April 2023, I made a couple of edits to List of Hawaiian animals extinct in the Holocene that relate to the Hawaiian eagle: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Hawaiian_animals_extinct_in_the_Holocene&diff=1150079201&oldid=1150035990. I said that the Hawaiian eagle is the white-tailed eagle or a very close relative, which I believe is consistent with the 2015 paper I cited. |
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On 21 February 2024, you made this edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Hawaiian_animals_extinct_in_the_Holocene&diff=1209311039&oldid=1208313536. You say that the Hawaiian eagle is the white-tailed eagle, removing the possibility it might be a very close relative. No new sources are added. |
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On 9 June 2024, an IP address user made this edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Hawaiian_animals_extinct_in_the_Holocene&diff=1228054066&oldid=1226724869 The user basically adds back wording to indicate that the Hawaiian eagle might be a very close relative, but I believe that the wording is less polished than what I originally wrote back on 16 April 2023. Again, no new sources are added. |
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Considering this edit history, I would like to restore the text relating to the Hawaiian eagle as it existed after the pair of edits I made on 16 April 2023, before the edits on 21 February 2024 and 9 June 2024 ever took place. However, I'm giving you a chance to justify your edit on 21 February 2024 before I make this change. |
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Again, keep up the good work on the extinctions by region articles! [[User:Columbianmammoth|Columbianmammoth]] ([[User talk:Columbianmammoth|talk]]) 18:16, 12 June 2024 (UTC) |
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Info on flag of Mali Empire
Hi, Menah. I ran across some info that's very exciting regarding the flag of the Mali Empire. According to this (http://books.google.com/books?id=HwV2a-lPB70C&printsec=frontcover&dq=General+History+of+Africa#PPA60,M1) on page 60, an eyewitness describes the colors (flag/standard) of Mansa Musa as "yellow on a red ground". I wish the guy would have said what was yellow. Maybe it was a yellow a triangle as shown on that map you mentioned in the Mali Empire talk page. Regardless, we know the ground or field was red. i'll post this on the talk page too. holla back. Scott Free (talk) 07:39, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
First of all, sorry. I should've left you a note in your talk page...being use to revert mostly vandalism I'm losing my modals :). That said I still see your edit way too biased and unsourced [1], but I'm just one editor talk your modification in the talk page and let's see how it goes.
And I was checking the recent changes page, that's how I check your edit and revert it. I usually revert blatant vandalism, so once again sorry for not leaving a note in your talk page explaining my revert. Cheers!--Seba5618 (talk) 22:24, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
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That article is about the battle in the Ifoghas mountains from February 22. What the French are involved in is a separate operation/battle in a separate part of northern Mali. What the Tuareg militants are involved in is also a separate skirmish. You can not combine all those separate battles into one battle. If you want to write about the French operations create a separate article. EkoGraf (talk) 20:56, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
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As you can see, many entries were rmeoved for having no sources. I added a lot back in . You can help here User:WikiOriginal-9/sandbox if you want. WikiOriginal-9 (talk)
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Belle Gunness is listed twice on the serial killers by number of victims
You probably already know this but u can press ctrl+f to find stuff on the page. She made a big jump from Serial killers with fewer than 15 proven victims to the top section, lol. Which is more appropiatre 13 or 42. - Murderpedia has the same numbers too. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 18:36, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
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Books you may find handy for sources
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There are drawings and drawings. You may have high-quality paintings of people, or wild drawings where you can't even distinguish a person's age. You keep reverting it, and just put forward your "30 years forward argument". Cánovas looked like this in 1884, which is far closer to the photo used than to your drawing, which is a poor quality one.
Also, stop adding irrelevant parties to the infobox. Infobox should be intended as a summary, not as a means to depict every tiny party possible (specially at a time when the election "winner" - by means of electoral fraud - easily obtained supermajorities). Having in the infobox 2-seat parties out of the ~400 seats in Congress at the time is just absurd. Back at the period starting at 1876 there were only two large parties (three at times). The infobox should kept at three (even when in some elections it should really be limited to two by political relevance) in order to use the full width that the infobox template allow, but no more when they are not necessary. For full election details you can just go to the nice "Results" table that is in each article.
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I've moved this to Draft:Joan Vila until it is finished. It's probably better to start such articles as drafts until you get all the sources added. World's Lamest Critic (talk) 20:49, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
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The Minotaur-class ironclads were iron-hulled, not wooden. I'll be deleting them, again, from the list of longest wooden ships.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:24, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
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Hi Menah,
I really appreciate the time and effort you've put into List of Hawaiian animals extinct in the Holocene and other, similar pages in the past few months.
I want to examine your decision today (12 April 2023) to delete the Oahu kioea (Chaetoptila cf. angustipluma) from the list. The source you provide (Chaetoptila angustipluma (Kioea) (iucnredlist.org)) indeed supports synonymizing this undescribed species with the kioea (Chaetoptila angustipluma). The key piece of info is, "Chaetoptila angustipluma is known historically only from the Big Island of Hawaii, USA, although fossil remains are also known from Oahu and Maui (James and Olson 1991)." The 1991 paper in question is Descriptions of Thirty-Two New Species of Birds from the Hawaiian Islands: Part II. Passeriformes | Searchable Ornithological Research Archive (unm.edu). (This link leads to a webpage which provides a link to the pdf.) I assume the IUCN is referring to Table 14 (on page 80), which provides historic and fossil distributions of Hawaiian passerines.
Confusingly, James and Olson 1991 does NOT use the name Chaetoptila angustipluma but rather Chaetoptila aff. angustipluma. Thus, the literature in question leaves open the possibility that the Oahu kioea (Chaetoptila cf. angustipluma) is an undescribed species.
At the end of the day, what we need is another research paper similar to James and Olson 1991 to clarify the taxonomy for dozens of Hawaiian birds, particularly with respect to fossils. (Some fossils might reveal a historic species once had a larger distribution, while other fossils might belong to a new, undescribed species.) Fingers crossed that we get this before the end of the decade. In the meantime, we have to make do with what we have. Columbianmammoth (talk) 22:19, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- Similar points could be made about an edit you made on 29 March 2023 with respect to native crows.
- The aforementioned Table 14 (page 80) of James and Olson 1991 distinguishes Corvus hawaiiensis (historic, Hawaii island) from Corvus aff. hawaiiensis (fossil, Hawaii island and Maui). Corvus hawaiiensis (Hawaiian Crow) (iucnredlist.org) uses the vague phrase "Bones of this or a closely related species have been found on Maui," citing slightly more recent literature (2002 & 2009). Columbianmammoth (talk) 22:32, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
The linked source for the Kioea entry is [BirdLife International (2016). "Chaetoptila angustipluma". IUCN Red List of Threatened Species. 2016: e.T22704348A93964400. doi:10.2305/IUCN.UK.2016-3.RLTS.T22704348A93964400.en. Retrieved 18 November 2021.], which treats the birds of the three islands as the same species. The 1991 source is probably outdated.--Menah the Great (talk) 04:35, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- Indeed. My point of confusion is that the IUCN source cites the 1991 paper (not more recent literature), yet the 1991 paper provides slightly different info. Perhaps you should write, “Fossils indicate that this species or a very similar one was also found on Maui and Oahu before European contact.” You used similar language for Corvus hawaiiensis (except that the latter hasn’t been found on Oahu). Also… if there is more recent literature for Chaetoptila angustipluma, it would be great if you tracked it down and used it as a source on Wikipedia.
- Whatever you decide on, you might want to make corresponding edits to articles like Kioea, Mohoidae, and List of Late Quaternary prehistoric bird species. I like it when Wikipedia is self-consistent. Columbianmammoth (talk) 02:48, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
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Good work on the Holocene extinctions by regions articles. I have just one small concern.
On 16 April 2023, I made a couple of edits to List of Hawaiian animals extinct in the Holocene that relate to the Hawaiian eagle: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Hawaiian_animals_extinct_in_the_Holocene&diff=1150079201&oldid=1150035990. I said that the Hawaiian eagle is the white-tailed eagle or a very close relative, which I believe is consistent with the 2015 paper I cited.
On 21 February 2024, you made this edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Hawaiian_animals_extinct_in_the_Holocene&diff=1209311039&oldid=1208313536. You say that the Hawaiian eagle is the white-tailed eagle, removing the possibility it might be a very close relative. No new sources are added.
On 9 June 2024, an IP address user made this edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Hawaiian_animals_extinct_in_the_Holocene&diff=1228054066&oldid=1226724869 The user basically adds back wording to indicate that the Hawaiian eagle might be a very close relative, but I believe that the wording is less polished than what I originally wrote back on 16 April 2023. Again, no new sources are added.
Considering this edit history, I would like to restore the text relating to the Hawaiian eagle as it existed after the pair of edits I made on 16 April 2023, before the edits on 21 February 2024 and 9 June 2024 ever took place. However, I'm giving you a chance to justify your edit on 21 February 2024 before I make this change.
Again, keep up the good work on the extinctions by region articles! Columbianmammoth (talk) 18:16, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
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