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I'd prefer DMS to decimal degrees for that usage, but thats a real side issue...--[[User:Nilfanion|Nilf]][[commons:User:Nilfanion|anion]] ([[User talk:Nilfanion|talk]]) 11:43, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
I'd prefer DMS to decimal degrees for that usage, but thats a real side issue...--[[User:Nilfanion|Nilf]][[commons:User:Nilfanion|anion]] ([[User talk:Nilfanion|talk]]) 11:43, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

== Ballet info-box ==

I wonder if you'd mind looking in '''[[Template talk:Infobox ballet|here]]''' and giving things a push forward (assuming you agree with the sentiments)? The suggestion, which which I completely agree, comes from our forthcoming hosts at the Opera House for the 22 June Ashton Editathon, and it would be good if we could secure agreement beforehand to make the change. [[User:Tim riley|Tim riley]] ([[User talk:Tim riley|talk]]) 15:51, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 18 March 2013

Wikidata weekly summary #50

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Development
    • Rolled out new code on wikidata.org. The new stuff you probably care about is:
      • Improved references. They can now have multiple lines. This should make references much more useful. You can now have one reference with for example values for each of the properties "book", "author", "page" to describe one source.
      • Fixed the prev/next links in diff view (bugzilla:45821)
      • d:Special:EntitiesWithoutLabel now lets you filter by language and entity type
    • Widget to add language links on the Wikipedias directly: added setting to enable/disable it per wiki and made it available for logged-in users only
    • Widget to add language links on the Wikipedias directly: improved layout / size
    • Made it so that the “edit links” link on Wikipedia is also shown when the corresponding item only has a link to this one language and no other languages
    • Submitted improved Apache config patch to make wikidata.org always redirect to www.wikidata.org, which is awaiting code review and deployment.
    • Improved the script that is responsible for taking Wikidata changes to the Wikipedias
    • Added a few ways to better debug the script responsible for taking Wikidata changes to the Wikipedias. This should help with investigating why some changes take way to long to show up on the Wikipedias.
    • Started work on automatically adding edited items to the user’s watchlist (according to preferences)
    • Finished script for rebuilding search keys, so we can finally get case insensitive matches in a lot of places
    • Support for multi-line references in diff view
    • Selenium tests for inclusion syntax
    • Improved parser function (that will be used to access Wikidata data on the Wikipedias) to accept property ID or label
    • Increased isolation of data model component to increase clarity and visibility of bad dependencies
    • Worked on schema access in the SQLStore (of the query component)
  • Discussions/Press
  • Events
    • 3rd Media Web Symposium 2013
    • Wikidata trifft Archäologie
    • SMWCon Spring NYC
  • Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Did you know?
    • When you edit a statement there is a little wheel in front of the text field. This lets you choose between “custom value”, “unknown value” and “no value”. “No value” means that we know that the given property has no value, e.g. Elizabeth I of England had no spouse. “Unknown value” means that the property has a value, but it is unknown which one -- e.g. Pope Linus most certainly had a year of birth, but it is unknown to us.
  • Open Tasks for You
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Photos from Scotland

Hi Andy, as I mentioned today the images from Scotland, I was wrong. It was not BBC, it is geograph.org.uk. See for example this image as typical representative. When I was uploading images from islands around Scotland, I found most of places covered by similar photos. Best regards --Chmee2 (talk) 19:53, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes, that's Geograph Britain and Ireland. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:04, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I see, thanks for explanation. And if you will find some usage for some of Scottish images, will be great :) Hopefully more will come from London area soon too when the Sun will finally arrive :) Regards --Chmee2 (talk) 21:06, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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The Bugle: Issue LXXXIV, March 2013

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Account weirdness

Hi Andy,

A quick Q: I have an account on wikipedia (the one I'm using to write this!) but when I cross to wikimedia commons I'm not logged in; when I try and log in using this account, it says I don't have an account; so I created a second account on wikimedia; then when I cross back to wikipedia I'm logged in under this second account!

Can you advise/point me in the direction of someone who can advise? Cheers!

simontcope 09:13, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Log in to Wikipedia using your preferred (original?) account. Then see Preferences / Manage your global account. Once that's sorted, you can disregard the newer account. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:26, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That's cracked it, thanks Andy simontcope 13:38, 26 March 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slim cop (talk • contribs)

Women in the Arab Spring needs an infobox

Hi Andy. Would you be able to offer this student editor some advice? [1] --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 16:29, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 19:46, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah Brown (businesswoman)

Andy, don't you ever look at talk pages? You will find the one here consists of nothing but lengthy RM discussions which have confirmed the present name. Johnbod (talk) 22:08, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No; you'll find lots of objections to the name, resulting - over three years ago - in "no consensus", not consensus to keep it. I'm unimpressed by the sexist drivel espoused there. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:45, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re: User talk:BDD#CSS classes

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Bot job

I'd completely forgotten about it. Thanks for the reminder! Nyttend (talk) 18:58, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Now we have someone else objecting that we need community consensus before implementing {{start date}}. Can you go to WP:BOTR and attempt to explain that this isn't some hare-brained idea that I'm attempting to impose without consensus? Nyttend (talk) 20:05, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 25 March 2013

Notice of Dispute resolution discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding a content dispute in which you may have been involved. Content disputes can hold up article development, therefore we are requesting your participation to help find a resolution. The thread is "Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Road junction lists".

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Infobox musical composition

In Mass No. 1 (Schubert), {{Infobox musical composition}} is used. I am looking how to best show a number (Köchel for Mozart, D. for Schubert). It's not really part of the title, but in many cases the item telling one Mozart mass in C from another (mass numbers not known well for those, too many). Should the composer appear on top, if yes how? The language is Latin, but doesn't have to show, it's default for missa. How to achieve that? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:37, 29 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What's the collective name for such identifiers? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:59, 29 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) Opus? --Redrose64 (talk) 18:01, 29 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

More general: there are many pieces under a generic name, for example piano sonata, followed by no. x, in key y, catalogue no z, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:37, 29 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think you'd just make those part of the name. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:59, 29 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Here I wanted to make it granular ;) - It should appear in one line, but probably be entered as separate fields, all but the first optional. Catalogue number is the collective name, long, but won't show if combined, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:17, 29 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I added and changed parameters, applied in Sparrow Mass, Deutsche Messe and Membra Jesu Nostri, please have a look. Instead of "all in one line", I pick for the title what seems most relevant. In case of Sparrow, the funny missa brevis number of the article title doesn't appear at all ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:06, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #51

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Development
    • The first 11 Wikipedias can now include data from Wikidata in their articles (If you want to see it in action see the infobox at it:Torino)
    • Worked on automatic summaries for statements
    • Worked on making properties accessible from the client using their label so you can use {{#property:executive director}} instead of {{#property:p169}} for example
    • Made qualifiers ready for the next deployment (Please test. See details further down.)
    • Selenium tests for qualifiers
    • Fixed some issues related to QUnit testing
    • Worked on improved handling and code design of multiple snak lists in the UI (qualifiers, references)
  • Discussions/Press
  • Events
    • Newline 2013
  • Other Noteworthy Stuff
    • We’re currently carefully monitoring performance after the deployment of phase 2 on the first 11 Wikipedias. There seem to be a few small issues. As soon as they are resolved we'll deploy on English Wikipedia. All other Wikipedias are planned to follow very soon after that.
    • Bye and a big thank you to Anja, Silke, Jens and John who are leaving the development team at the end of the month and will work on other cool things. You’ll be missed!
    • Ever had any doubt about the possibilities of Wikidata? Talk to Wiri!
    • We worked on reducing the time it takes for Wikidata edits to show up in the Wikipedias and made some progress. Daniel posted an analysis
    • We started running a script on the database in order to make search on Wikidata case-insensitive. This should be finished in a few days and then search should be more useful.
    • In addition to the above we have rolled out a new search box that suggests items. This should also make finding things on Wikidata a lot easier for you.
    • We’re making some progress with Internet Explorer 8 support but there are a lot of issues with it (some outside our control). It’s unclear at the moment how much we can improve it still without spending an unjustified amount of time on it. You can follow the progress at bugzilla:44228
    • Edits are now auto-confirmed for users with more than 50 edits and account age 4 days: bugzilla:46461
    • Do you need old-style interwiki links for a sister project for example? This is for you
    • The Wikimedia Foundation applied as a mentoring organisation for Google Summer of Code again. We have proposed some Wikidata projects for students to take up if the Foundation is accepted again. At least 2 other organisations that applied also propose Wikidata ideas. More details on that once we know which organisations are accepted.
    • Denny hacked together a tree of life based on data from Wikidata
    • Wikidata was added to wikipulse
    • A template to retrieve data from Wikidata if no local value is set
  • Did you know?
  • Open Tasks for You
    • See note at the end of this weekly summary
    • Help test qualifiers (m:Wikidata/Notes/Data model primer#Qualifiers - see also example statements there) on the test wiki so we can roll it out with the next release
    • Did you file a bug report for Wikidata or did someone else do it for you? Please take a minute to check if it is still valid. (Thanks for filing it btw!)
    • Add some missing descriptions to those items with the same label?
    • Hack on one of these

Could I have 2 mins of your time? As I’ll be working on some other projects for Wikimedia Germany as well from now on the time I can spend on Wikidata will be reduced. This means I’ll have to figure out what is useful to spend time on. If you’re reading this could you let me know for example on this discussion page? Also if you have ideas how to improve the weekly summaries please post them. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk)

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Editathon in June

Passing over our occasional disagreements about infoboxes, I remember you were at the last editathon I went to and I wonder if this might be of interest? I'm not a ballet buff, but I have signed up, and I think some input from experienced senior WP editors such as you could help improve a whole chunk of the encyclopedia, if you are free and inclined. And if so, or indeed if not, can you think of other experienced editors who might be biddable? Best wishes. Tim riley (talk) 21:31, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I've signed up. Are WMUK covering travel? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:43, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent! Good point about the travel costs. I've asked the authorities (in the form of Andrew Gray) and will report back soonest. We must mention this in the notice too. Tim riley (talk) 22:25, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'll have to check with Daria (but she's away until the middle of next week, as I recall, so we may not get a swift reply). Andrew Gray (talk) 23:27, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Buildings

Thank you for the nice infobox on Holzhausenschlösschen. I had no time yet, appreciate it even more. I added one to the church that decorates the Main page right now, perhaps check. I am not happy with the long bold partly blue names for the parameters. - I love your {{infobox opera}} sample, first credited Voceditenore with that dramah ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:16, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done. We'd need to edit the template to change those labels. Thank you for your kind words. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:18, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I will have to expand the article, to avoid the section collapse ;) - When I add a collapsed list to an infobox, the line above it looks strange, example Mass in B minor structure, why? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:56, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Next: Lichtental Church, - I don't see a way to mention the nickname, and find 3 lines for "people" too much. Coords? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:58, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinates added (I found them on the page or the lead image). I've added |other_name= (maybe better centred, without a label?). Do you mean three lines for the architects? Looks OK to me. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:16, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
see Template talk:Infobox church#other_name. Frietjes (talk) 21:17, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, both, for the other name! - 3 lines: no, I mean "Significant associated people" - would they be mentioned if not significant? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:29, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Understood - and fixed. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:37, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! - Look at their seal: Zu den 14 Nothelfern (top) - Pfarre Lichtental (bottom), - if one line, "zu", not "Zu", and no break after 14, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:03, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

ANI Notice

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Jusdafax 06:01, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinates

Why did you change the coordinates on Three Countries Bridge to point to the riverbank 2/3 of a kilometer from the bridge? Abductive (reasoning) 22:03, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't. I changed them from {{Coord|57|35|49|N|7|35|39|E|region:FR}}, which is in the sea North of Denmark, to {{Coord|47|35|49|N|7|35|39|E|region:FR}}, which was the same value as in the map template. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:12, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, it was User:AxG who made those coordinates, but yours were different from the reasonably accurate decimal coords that had resided in the article for years. It pays to double-check since typos are all too common. Abductive (reasoning) 22:16, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Women in the Arab Spring Infobox

Hello! On the Women in the Arab Spring talk page you had suggested using "Infobox news event" as the article infobox. With that infobox it seems like using general Arab Spring information would make more sense than using information specific to women because there aren't female casualty breakdowns or anything. Do you think that would be strange? Nadhika99 (talk) 03:40, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I do - you could always leave that field blank. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:46, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies

When I called the signature messed up, I was referring to T13's signature. I didn't mean yours and I apologise profusely if I offended you.--Launchballer 14:17, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't think that you meant mine; I was pointing out that my comment on your unreadable sig could not be dismissed as hypocrisy. Please fix it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:43, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Coords

I didn't think of the logical inference that the layout I provided there might cause - by including coords as a special case of "existing", and not elsewhere, it implied its a quirk of the existing not accepted elsewhere. I only included it in first place to show both actual RJLs we have for the M5. If there was any misrepresentation on my part there it was unintentional :)

The 3 major versions now all have two variants shown (without / with coords). I've put the coords with the location data, as both are about specifying where it is and complement each other. Seems more logical than splitting the two.

I'd prefer DMS to decimal degrees for that usage, but thats a real side issue...--Nilfanion (talk) 11:43, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ballet info-box

I wonder if you'd mind looking in here and giving things a push forward (assuming you agree with the sentiments)? The suggestion, which which I completely agree, comes from our forthcoming hosts at the Opera House for the 22 June Ashton Editathon, and it would be good if we could secure agreement beforehand to make the change. Tim riley (talk) 15:51, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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