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Userspace drafts

Hello. I noticed from your comments on the talk page of Stunmedia.com that you were trying to "edit the article in DRAFT mode". Wikipedia does not have a draft mode per se; however, you can create a page in your user space by titling the new page as follows:

User:Robtencer/newpage

where "newpage" is the name of your new page. Once the draft is complete, you can move it to the main article space using the move function; note that you will need to wait four days and make ten edits before you can move articles. See WP:Userspace draft for more information.

Stunmedia.com

I moved Stunmedia.com to User:Robtencer/Stunmedia.com on your behalf. Feel free to contact me if you have any other questions on how to edit Wikipedia. –Grondemar 23:43, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Buzzhollywood.com

I've moved the page to User:Robtencer/Buzzhollywood.com, which is a subpage of your userpage, so that you'll be free to work on your draft, without fear of speedy deletions; however, before continuing, please read WP:WEB. Salvio ( ^{Let's talk 'bout it!}) 23:44, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of The X Factor Fan Site

A tag has been placed on The X Factor Fan Site requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for web content. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. NtheP (talk) 19:26, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the article (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Hairhorn (talk) 21:53, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Please do not replace Wikipedia pages with blank content, as you did to the page File:The-x-factor-fan-site-logo.png. Blank pages can confuse readers, and are overall not helpful to the Wikipedia project; furthermore, blanking a page is not the same as deleting it.

If the article you blanked is a duplicate of another article, please redirect it to an appropriate existing page. If the page has been vandalized, please revert it to the last legitimate revision. If you feel that the content of a page is inappropriate, please replace it with appropriate content. If you believe there is no hope for the page, please use the appropriate deletion process. Falcon8765 (talk) 20:26, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of The X Factor Fan Site

A tag has been placed on The X Factor Fan Site requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for web content. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Derild4921☼ 22:56, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Mind explaining this edit?

This one? I removed the empty category per categorizing pages guideline. Specifically "An article should never be left with a non-existent (redlinked) category on it. Either the category should be created, or else the link should be removed or changed to a category that does exist." Mauler90 _talk 02:00, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Dear Mauler90, verified facts are very important to my wikipedia article. establishing dates and ownership are important, because thexfactor.com are being vandalized, hacked, and sent letters to give up ownership. I hope this explains why I wanted to keep the RED highlights.Robtencer (talk)

Articles for deletion nomination of The X Factor Fansite

I have nominated The X Factor Fansite, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The X Factor Fansite. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Mauler90 _talk 02:14, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Other editors have edited and removed what was bothering you: i.e. categories that lead nowhere, please remove your nomination, for delete

Dear Mauler90, I have become very defensive, because unlike yourself, admins have made speedy delete tags on my work, without discussion. If you are willing to discuss the matter, I would be most appreciated. Perhaps you have not read the article, and don't understand the significance or importance of a FANSITE. Robtencer (talk)

By all means. Make your case at the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The X Factor Fansite and if you can convince other editors that it should stay it will. I would more than happy to see the AFD closed as Keep, we can always use more good articles in the Wiki! Mauler90 _talk 02:28, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Also it looked like you were a bit unclear on how an AFD works. It will be listed there for 7 days before an admin decides whether or not to delete it based on user input, so you have plenty of time to improve it before it is in danger. Mauler90 _talk 02:33, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Hello, Robtencer. You have new messages at Taroaldo's talk page.
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Wikipedia: Etiquette

pls do not post rude or hateful comments as you did here. This is the type of think that is not acceptable here perhaps you should familiarizes yourself with Wikipedia:Etiquette. Moxy (talk) 06:38, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

It's okay

Hello Rob, I saw your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The X Factor Fansite, and I'm sorry that you've been made to feel persecuted. You asked for help, and I wish I could provide it. I take pride in protecting new articles by new editors from deletion. Unfortunately, in this case I don't see anything I can do. Wikipedia:Notability (web) requires:

"The content itself has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself."

This doesn't seem to be the case. If it's any consolation, it's not your fault: no matter how skilled an editor you are or how much effort you expend, some articles just can't be defended. Also, please keep in mind that there's no need to stress over a single AfD. It can feel like you're under a time limit, but really you're not. Even after an article is deleted, if you discover new references that would have saved the article, you can always take them to Wikipedia:Deletion review to get the article re-created. Good luck, Melchoir (talk) 07:07, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Re: The X Factor Fan Site

Re your message: Please be careful in your use of the term "vandalism" (follow that link and read it), labeling deletions as an "attack", or stating "vandalist admins" are after you. Your comments such as this and this are also unnecessarily combative. Such language is borderline incivility.

The reason that your article was speedy deleted and appears to be heading for deletion on the AfD is that you have not established why the site is notable enough for inclusion on Wikipedia. Having a website related to a notable show does not make the website automatically notable. In other words, notability is not inherited. You must show how the website itself received coverage from reliable sources, not that the X Factor show received coverage, therefore the website is notable.

Finally, it appears that you have some relationship to the parent company of the website. Therefore, please review the conflict of interest guideline and the Wikipedia Business' FAQ. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 07:51, 22 July 2010 (UTC)