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== Missing history? == |
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Hi, Scott. I'm hoping you can help me with another history investigation. At some point in February I created [[Draft:Untitled Suicide Squad spinoff series]], and then in May, I created a separate draft at [[Draft:Untitled Amanda Waller series]]. The two were related, but it wasn't clear that they were the same topic. The two were later merged when it seemed they were the same subject, but then they were split again. I am trying to find the history that used to be at the first article, but it seems to just point me to the latter. When I check the logs, though, it doesn't look like [[Draft:Untitled Amanda Waller series]] has a deletion logged (such as from a G6 move), nor can I find a deleted listing on [https://xtools.wmflabs.org/pages/en.wikipedia.org/2pou/118 XTools], so I'm confused where it went. Is it possible to move over draft histories without leaving a deletion log entry and have some kind of hidden history interwoven behind the non-deleted content? Are you able to see anything like that as an admin? Do you think you would able to help me find this history in the event that a history merge or split is needed? Thanks for any help you can offer. -[[User:2pou|2pou]] ([[User talk:2pou|talk]]) 23:06, 25 July 2022 (UTC) |
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:Oh, @[[User:Scott|Scott]], the other page involved is [[Draft:Untitled The Suicide Squad spin-off]], where I thought it was moved to back in Feb. That probably would have been a relevant link to include. -[[User:2pou|2pou]] ([[User talk:2pou|talk]]) 05:31, 26 July 2022 (UTC) |
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::{{replyto|User:2pou}} I'm not [[User:Scott|Scott]], but I'm just passing by while doing some [[Special:Diff/1132284313|relevant link-fixing]], inspired by [[Special:Logid/141157815|a bizarre history merge]] I found thanks to [https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-08/the-pub-with-no-town-dulacca/101824028 this news story]. The February 2022 page history is at {{noredirect|Draft:Untitled Suicide Squad spinoff series}} and the May 2022 history is now at [[Draft:Untitled The Suicide Squad spin-off series]], after [[Special:Logid/133176773|this page move]]. Re the former history, the history of a redirect is behind the link on a "Redirected from ..." notice. '''[[User:Graham87|Graham]]'''[[User talk:Graham87|<span style="color: green;">87</span>]] 04:24, 8 January 2023 (UTC) |
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:::{{replyto|User:2pou|User:Graham87}} Hey, I've just seen this. Thanks Graham, sterling work as always! — [[User:Scott|'''<span style="color:#000">Scott</span>''']] <span style="color:#900">•</span> [[User talk:Scott|''<span style="color:#000">talk</span>'']] 23:22, 10 January 2023 (UTC) |
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::::{{replyto|User:Graham87|User:Scott}} Thank you for pointing me in the right direction. It looks like I had to look back one more page move in the history to find {{noredirect|Draft:Untitled The Suicide Squad spinoff series}} actually started in January 2022. These have had quite a confusing history to them, but now that I found them, I tried to make a crude representation of the histories below. Are one of you able to bring these histories back together? There looks to be a slight overlap in May 2022 that might make a simple move not work. Thanks! -[[User:2pou|2pou]] ([[User talk:2pou|talk]]) 03:36, 11 January 2023 (UTC) |
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!Current page location |
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!What happened |
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|[[Special:History/Draft:Untitled The Suicide Squad spinoff series|Draft:Untitled The Suicide Squad spinoff series]] |
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| colspan="2" style="background: #E7E7FF" |28-Jan-2022 - 3-May-2022 |
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Belongs with [[Special:History/Draft:Untitled The Suicide Squad spin-off series|Draft:Untitled The Suicide Squad spin-off series]] |
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|Mistakenly redirected the Suicide Squad topic to a different topic at Draft:Untitled Amanda Waller series with [[Special:Diff/1086135803]]) |
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|[[Special:History/Draft:Untitled The Suicide Squad spin-off series|Draft:Untitled The Suicide Squad spin-off series]] |
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| colspan="2" style="background: #FE9" |3-May-22 to 3-Jun-2022 |
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Belongs with [[Special:History/Draft:Untitled Amanda Waller series|Draft:Untitled Amanda Waller series]] |
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| colspan="2" style="background: #E7E7FF" |26-Jun-22 to 7-Jan-23 |
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|Mistakenly changed the Amanda Waller topic to the Suicide Squad topic in this edit [[Special:Diff/1095059987]] instead of restoring the prior history. |
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|[[Special:History/Draft:Untitled Amanda Waller series|Draft:Untitled Amanda Waller series]] |
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| colspan="2" style="background: #FE9" |26-Jun-22 to 7-Jan-23 |
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|Original history mistakenly moved away to a new location in this move [[Special:Diff/1095057856]]) |
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:::::I don't think there are any straight cut-and-paste moves in these page histories (i.e. all the text having been cut into another article), so I don't think a history merge/move is appropriate here ... but I'm fairly conservative regarding these things. '''[[User:Graham87|Graham]]'''[[User talk:Graham87|<span style="color: green;">87</span>]] 08:47, 11 January 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::@[[User:Graham87|Graham87]], I understand. Well, thank you for taking the time to look! -[[User:2pou|2pou]] ([[User talk:2pou|talk]]) 15:35, 13 January 2023 (UTC) |
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== History undeletion == |
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Hi, Scott. Would you please be so kind as to [[Special:Undelete/Super_Mario_63|recover the old revisions of "Super Mario 63"]]? Regards, [[User:Elominius|Elominius]] ([[User talk:Elominius|talk]]) 09:08, 10 June 2023 (UTC) |
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:Hi Elominius, I've restored the article and moved it to be one of your subpages at [[User:Elominius/Super Mario 63]]. The most recent revision is a redirect. Best, — [[User:Scott|'''<span style="color:#000">Scott</span>''']] <span style="color:#900">•</span> [[User talk:Scott|''<span style="color:#000">talk</span>'']] 10:16, 10 June 2023 (UTC) |
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::That is very kind of you, Scott. I have also seen that you have undeleted the history of some pages such as [[Justin Bieber]] for wikiarchaeology purposes. Have a barnstar. ☺ [[User:Elominius|Elominius]] ([[User talk:Elominius|talk]]) 12:36, 10 June 2023 (UTC) |
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|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Admin's Barnstar''' |
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thank you, Scott, for making ancient page histories available to wiki archaeologists. [[User:Elominius|Elominius]] ([[User talk:Elominius|talk]]) 12:37, 10 June 2023 (UTC) |
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== Why was [[Super Mario 63]] userfied? == |
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It's just a redirect. The former content can be copied into userspace from the history without the end result being deletion of a redirect that was accepted at WP:AFC/R and that page protection was removed to create. Am I allowed to recreate the redirect? I don't know, I'm not active enough here. No valid reason has been given for deletion, so I'm leaning on the side of [[Hitchens's razor]], and restoring it. |
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(Sorry if this comes off aggressive – something weird is affecting my mood IRL and I'm not making good judgment on what comments are fine and what aren't. I'll strike it if anything's out of line, and you're free to wipe the comment as a whole.) <span style="background-color: black">[[User:Skarmory|<span style="color: yellow">Skarmory</span>]] [[User talk:Skarmory|<span style="color: yellow">(talk •</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Skarmory|<span style="color: yellow">contribs)</span>]]</span> 20:17, 10 June 2023 (UTC) |
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:Skarmory, I was just about to move the page back into article space with the redirect being the most recent revision, but noticed you re-created the redirect. I recommend overwriting the redirect you created and moving the redirect page with the original revision history from 2010 back into article space so anyone interested can find the 2010 revisions under the original title. Since you have the [[Wikipedia:Page_mover|extended mover]] user right which includes <code>delete-redirect</code> (''move pages over existing single revision redirects regardless of target''), you should be able to do it ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:MovePage/User:Elominius/Super_Mario_63&wpReason=Making%20the%20revisions%20from%202010%20available%20at%20the%20original%20title%20for%20anyone%20interested.&wpNewTitleMain=Super_Mario_63&wpNewTitleNs=0 shortcut]). [[User:Elominius|Elominius]] ([[User talk:Elominius|talk]]) 21:58, 10 June 2023 (UTC) - last modified on 22:32, 10 June 2023 (UTC) |
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::Alright, apparently I'm a klutz and managed to move it to [[User:Super Mario 63]], and then <code>delete-redirect</code> just decided not to give me a yes/no on the "Are you sure you want to delete this page by overwriting" or whatever that message was. I still got it back to [[Super Mario 63]] – let me know if anything's wrong, or feel free to trout me, because I feel like I deserve one today. <span style="background-color: black">[[User:Skarmory|<span style="color: yellow">Skarmory</span>]] [[User talk:Skarmory|<span style="color: yellow">(talk •</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Skarmory|<span style="color: yellow">contribs)</span>]]</span> 22:41, 10 June 2023 (UTC) |
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:::No need to stress out, my friend. 😊 |
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:::Could you please also move [[User_talk:Elominius/Super_Mario_63]] to [[Talk:Super_Mario_63]] and overwrite the redirect I left because I don't have <code>suppressredirect</code>? And watch that drop-down menu this time. 😉 [[User:Elominius|Elominius]] ([[User talk:Elominius|talk]]) 22:48, 10 June 2023 (UTC) |
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::::Found the missing yes/no for <code>deleteredirect</code>, it's next to the other checkboxes, don't know why I didn'tthink of that. Anyway, move should be good to go, this time with attention paid to the drop down menu. :) <span style="background-color: black">[[User:Skarmory|<span style="color: yellow">Skarmory</span>]] [[User talk:Skarmory|<span style="color: yellow">(talk •</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Skarmory|<span style="color: yellow">contribs)</span>]]</span> 22:51, 10 June 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::Well done, Skarmory. [[User:Elominius|Elominius]] ([[User talk:Elominius|talk]]) 23:00, 10 June 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::Hi both, following the link Elominus provided in their section above this to the deleted revisions of that article, I misread it as having been entirely deleted. Sorry! Thanks {{u|Skarmory}} for fixing my mess-up. No worries about the tone of your message, I hope your mood improves soon. — [[User:Scott|'''<span style="color:#000">Scott</span>''']] <span style="color:#900">•</span> [[User talk:Scott|''<span style="color:#000">talk</span>'']] 21:09, 11 June 2023 (UTC) |
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== [[:File:Yearly change in number of admins on the English Wikipedia.png]] == |
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If you don't mind, could you please update [[:File:Yearly change in number of admins on the English Wikipedia.png]]? It's two years out of date. Thanks {{smiley}} [[User:Queen of Hearts|<sup><span style="color: darkred">Queen</span></sup>]][[Special:Contribs/Queen of Hearts|<small><span style="color: darkred">of</span></small>]][[User talk:Queen of Hearts|<sub><span style="color: darkred">Hearts</span></sub>]] 06:25, 4 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:Hey there, thanks for the reminder! Stuff got in the way of last year's update and I just never got around to it. Done! — [[User:Scott|'''<span style="color:#000">Scott</span>''']] <span style="color:#900">•</span> [[User talk:Scott|''<span style="color:#000">talk</span>'']] 15:24, 5 February 2024 (UTC) |
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== Mail == |
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Hi Scott, I just sent you one. [[User:Graham87|Graham87]] ([[User talk:Graham87|talk]]) 12:18, 9 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== Felix == |
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You're welcome, buddy. [[User:Kazachstanski nygus|Kazachstanski nygus]] ([[User talk:Kazachstanski nygus|talk]]) 15:04, 14 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== Disidrose == |
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I noticed you incorrectly deleted this page a few weeks back [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=162091891]. While [[WP:RFOR]] concerns are quite commonly used when listing a redirect at [[WP:RFD]], [[WP:R3]] only applies to recently created redirects, 3–4 months at the outside, however the page was created almost two years prior to your deletion [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=134211229] as such it is ineligible for R3. Hence, please undelete the page and subsequently list at RFD, thanks. [[Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:B98A:217D:C37F:9BB2|2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:B98A:217D:C37F:9BB2]] ([[User talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:B98A:217D:C37F:9BB2|talk]]) 20:38, 16 June 2024 (UTC) |
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